Callum Logan

[Dazzle]

From Wiki: 'In accordance with the official ITV website, David is listed as Max's adoptive father. Although the adoption has been discussed in previous storylines, this has never been confirmed onscreen. The character continues to be credited with the surname "Turner". '

So, as clear as mud then.

I think we'll just have to accept that although David and Kylie agreed that he should adopt Max they never actually got around to doing so (unless we're given another explanation).

[parkerman]

It's interesting though that it is the ITV's official website that is saying David has adopted Max. They might have to amend that once the Court battle begins!

[Dazzle]

It's interesting though that it is the ITV's official website that is saying David has adopted Max. They might have to amend that once the Court battle begins!

Agreed.

What I think may have happened is that the Corrie team decided that David should adopt Max but since the adoption was never confirmed as having been finalised on screen, and since they wanted to extend Callum's role, they've decided to use that loophole for a custody case.

I'm happy to let it slide since it I think it has the potential to be a good storyline.

[Kim]

It's interesting though that it is the ITV's official website that is saying David has adopted Max. They might have to amend that once the Court battle begins!

I'm sure David said it was all official now at some point in 2013. I'll see if I can find a clip. As Dazzle (I think it was) in the other thread, Callum's lack of consent to the adoption may be a loophole if the producers actually go as far as to care about the credibility of this storyline. If Callum is listed on the birth certificate, Kylie probably forged his consent as Callum would have to have agreed to the adoption (unless a court ruled that it was in Max's best interests to allow David to adopt him, which I doubt as I believe that's rare.)

[maidmarian]

dupl

[maidmarian]

I'm sure David said it was all official now at some point in 2013. I'll see if I can find a clip. As Dazzle (I think it was) in the other thread, Callum's lack of consent to the adoption may be a loophole if the producers actually go as far as to care about the credibility of this storyline. If Callum is listed on the birth certificate, Kylie probably forged his consent as Callum would have to have agreed to the adoption (unless a court ruled that it was in Max's best interests to allow David to adopt him, which I doubt as I believe that's rare.)

I dont think.Callum would have had to
agree unless he had Parental Responsiblity.
The court ignore his wishes.
We dont know for certain but it seems
unlikely Callum did have Parental
responsiblity based on what can be
surmised.
there is a pic from episode 8208"david
suggests adopting Max" but no text
available- that I could find

[Dazzle]

As Dazzle (I think it was) in the other thread, Callum's lack of consent to the adoption may be a loophole...

I did indeed say that on the David and Kylie thread, but since writing that I read the following spoiler on page 2 of this thread:-

However, as David worries about his lack of legal parental rights over Max...

which suggests to me that there was no adoption. In truth, either explanation could work.

I'll be interested if you can find a clip of the adoption being confirmed as official, Kim, as it would help clear our confusion a little.

[Kim]

I dont think.Callum would have had to
agree unless he had Parental Responsiblity.
The court ignore his wishes.
We dont know for certain but it seems
unlikely Callum did have Parental
responsiblity based on what can be
surmised.
there is a pic from episode 8208"david
suggests adopting Max" but no text
available- that I could find

For children born on or after 1 December 2003 in England (which obviously Max was,) a father automatically has PR if he is listed on the birth certificate. Hence Callum's consent would have been needed for the adoption (unless the court decided otherwise) if he's named.

There is another credible way around this, I think, in that Callum may not be listed on the birth certificate but can demand a legally recognised DNA test (so someone official checks that the swabs come from Max and Callum.) When he's shown to be the father, he can be listed on the certificate and go to court for custody, despite never being named on the document before. It may still apply even if the adoption went through, as Callum would gain PR from the test and had never agreed to give it up or lost it by order of the court.

I haven't had time to search for clips yet but it's on my list

[Dazzle]

There is another credible way around this, I think, in that Callum may not be listed on the birth certificate but can demand a legally recognised DNA test (so someone official checks that the swabs come from Max and Callum.) When he's shown to be the father, he can be listed on the certificate and go to court for custody, despite never being named on the document before. It may still apply even if the adoption went through, as Callum would gain PR from the test and had never agreed to give it up or lost it by order of the court.

I like that theory. Good thinking Kim!

[parkerman]

Hasn't it already been establshed that Callum is shown on the birth certificate as the father?