DAvid and Kylie!!!

[maidmarian]

If David has adopted Max legally, then Callum has no rights at all. None whatsoever.

Im sure you are right-if it was legal.
Im not saying it wasnt -but it seems
to be vague or off-screen.
If the adoption was done apparently
correctly but it turned out the facts
on which it was based were incomplete
or "misleading" would there be any
comeback?

re above - there is a procedure called
" adoption reversal" but very rarely used
in UK.
Where a stepfather wishes to adopt a
partners child from previous relationship
the court does not have to take into
account the natural parents wishes unless
they have "parental responsibilty" .
If so CAFFCAS arbitrates.

As Callum not mentioned until recently
and prob only Kylie knew who father
was-hes not likely to have PR.
In general -I find it re-assuring that
Courts are involved in the procedure
as hopefully some safe guard for
children.

[maidmarian]

dupl

[Dazzle]

So it sounds like if Max was adopted legally but without Callum's permission he might have a case (possibly with a bit of creative licence thrown in).

[Kim]

So it sounds like if Max was adopted legally but without Callum's permission he might have a case (possibly with a bit of creative licence thrown in).

Potentially, but I'm sure they'll just prefer to retcon it for the sake of the storyline and forget that the adoption was ever mentioned.

I can't see how Callum can realistically have a case against David that's strong enough for it to get to the point that David could almost lose Max anyway. Biological father is all he has going for him. He's never paid maintenance, never shown an interest until now, when Max is at an age that he can understand what's going on if he's removed from the family that he's bonded with and his half-sister. Callum is single, as far as we know doesn't have the support network that David has, and has a criminal record that's probably worse (and more recent) than David's. How can he prove a steady income exactly? And there was a big point made when Max came out of care that the social services didn't want to see Max moved again - but that suddenly changes after Max has had a steady home for several years now, just because a so far absent biological father shows his face (and is probably playing games because he knows it'll hurt David. He must know that David is better for Max or else he and Kylie would have taken Max with them on Christmas day.)

I don't understand how any court could consider Callum seriously for anything other than access, and probably supervised access at that.

[Dazzle]

I don't understand how any court could consider Callum seriously for anything other than access, and probably supervised access at that.

Probably not in real life but this is a soap!

Possibly some of Callum's family will crawl out of the woodwork to support him, and do we know the extent of Callum's police record? According to this wiki page, he's only been to prison once for assaulting a judge. Given that was years ago, and if he's not been charged with anything since (despite being a known drug dealer), a good lawyer may be able to paint him as a more reputable figure than he actually is. Also, there's David's own sordid past to consider.

[maidmarian]

Probably not in real life but this is a soap!

Possibly some of Callum's family will crawl out of the woodwork to support him, and do we know the extent of Callum's police record? According to this wiki page, he's only been to prison once for assaulting a judge. Given that was years ago, and if he's not been charged with anything since (despite being a known drug dealer), a good lawyer may be able to paint him as a more reputable figure than he actually is. Also, there's David's own sordid past to consider.

yes - they must have prepared some at least
plausible grounds for Callum to cite in
support of his case. It sounds as tho story
will run for quite a while and it couldn't
do that if it fell at first fence!!

[maidmarian]

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[swmc66]

At least Max's dad will show some interest in him and care for him in some way. I have seen that make a difference to children. He would have only tried to contact his dad later and been disappointed. Let the boy decide if he wants to see his Dad and he will soon realise what he is. . My friends sons told social workers they wanted to see less of their dad after he applied for more access. My friend did not expect that but kids have their own minds and had reasonable grounds to limit access further.

[Kim]

At least Max's dad will show some interest in him and care for him in some way. I have seen that make a difference to children. He would have only tried to contact his dad later and been disappointed. Let the boy decide if he wants to see his Dad and he will soon realise what he is. . My friends sons told social workers they wanted to see less of their dad after he applied for more access. My friend did not expect that but kids have their own minds and had reasonable grounds to limit access further.

I just hope that Max does get the option and we aren't treated to a scene of Max being taken away from David while crying that he wants to stay.

[maidmarian]

I just hope that Max does get the option and we aren't treated to a scene of Max being taken away from David while crying that he wants to stay.

I should suppose part of the final answer
will include Kylie. Shes written out at the
present but know shes coming back.

It depends when/ how and in what state.
She is Maxs mother and he will have
affection for her- no matter what.

She has got faults but has been made
worse just to facilitate her temporary
deoarture.