Coronation Street - Current Episode Discussion - IV

[Perdita]

Although Owen has changed over the course of his time on the Street, the old Owen has always been there simmering under the surface. I think what really did it this time was the way he perceived Gary treating his daughter, Izzy. We know that what happened was really Izzy's misreading of the situation, nevertheless she was hurt and Owen blames Gary.

Anna blaming Roy and Owen blaming Gary both come down to parents loving and protecting their children. See Shirley in Eastenders for another example. And which of us, who are parents, can say we wouldn't act in the same way when our children are involved?

I would like to think that after the initial anger of seeing my daughter hurt, the fact that Gary never intended to upset her would make me leave Gary alone and focus on support Izzy. Anna is still in shock and I guess also a bit embarrassed that Gary actually was going to steal from Roy and stunned by the violence used by Roy making it easier to shift the blame .... I just hope she tells Owen to stop taunting Gary as it surely is not helping anyone ..

[Dazzle]

I just hope she tells Owen to stop taunting Gary as it surely is not helping anyone ..

I find it a complete mystery why she allows this to happen. As Parkerman says, it's natural to jump to the defence of your children, and Anna certainly has a long history of doing just that, so why is she ignoring Owen's bullying and belittling of Gary? It doesn't make any sense...

[mariba]

I can fully understand Owen. He finds it hard to forgive Gary for what he's done to the whole family. Because of his stupidity, they fell in financial difficulties and ended up losing their home as well. Gary is nothing but bad news-anything he touches he ruins. I for one find it very hard to like Gary's character as well and would be more than happy to see him gone.
The whole storyline with Roy is strange..If Gary takes the full responsibility, in the real life the police would leave it to that. Or they would find the real culprits who actually caused Roy to be frightened and act the way he did. I just don't understand when he was so frightened, why didn't he call the police from his flat and maybe Ty or any other neighbour?? Doesn't make any sense. Also-why hasn't Roy told to anyone(especially to Anna) that he didn't know it was Gary before he was lying on the ground and turned around? PLUS-I think it was very odd that Gary didn't say a word in the cafe when Roy hit him?? A shout and turn around?? Not believable.
As for Anna-she behaves as always, I knew this would happen!! I really liked Anna with Hayley's illness storyline, but she's going back to her old annoying self again..
And Mary saying in the pub that 'violence is never the answer'?? Yeah right! What was it when she abducted Norris??

I really like Steve depression storyline..made me cry last night to see him in the dark bedroom..I think his mum is starting to realize..I don't understand why they can't see that he's not right??! There's not one(AGAIN!!!) who would offer some sympathy for him and just listen..no, everyone around him are just shouting..I can fully understand where he's coming from, he thinks he's no good to anyone and was just building this bubble(his car)around him where he didn't have to face his depression..and Christmas for Amy was his last go to try to escape his problems. His world is starting to crumble slowly and he has to start to face his problems..but is unable to cope..I think he's a great actor and I really salute Corrie for taking depression as a storyline. I hope that Steve and Michelle will fall in love again.

[Dazzle]

I can fully understand Owen. He finds it hard to forgive Gary for what he's done to the whole family. Because of his stupidity, they fell in financial difficulties and ended up losing their home as well. Gary is nothing but bad news-anything he touches he ruins. I for one find it very hard to like Gary's character as well and would be more than happy to see him gone.

Whatever part Gary played in the Phelan thing has, until now, long been forgiven and forgotten. It was ultimately Owen's decision to go into business with him, which he's since admitted, and he bears most of the blame (especially since he was fully aware of Phelan's character). Gary was an idiot to hit Phelan but he was manipulated by the latter, as the whole family well knows.

I'm not excusing Gary, as I don't like him either, but this nonsense from Owen has come out of nowhere. Either he held a grudge about the Phelan thing or he didn't. If he secretly did, then there should have been some hints about it. It's badly written either way.

I still stand by the fact that Anna would not put up with Owen's constant snide remarks and nastiness to Gary, whatever the rights and wrongs of Gary's behaviour.

And Mary saying in the pub that 'violence is never the answer'?? Yeah right! What was it when she abducted Norris??

Very true!!

I really like Steve depression storyline..made me cry last night to see him in the dark bedroom..I think his mum is starting to realize..I don't understand why they can't see that he's not right??! There's not one(AGAIN!!!) who would offer some sympathy for him and just listen..no, everyone around him are just shouting..I can fully understand where he's coming from, he thinks he's no good to anyone and was just building this bubble(his car)around him where he didn't have to face his depression..and Christmas for Amy was his last go to try to escape his problems. His world is starting to crumble slowly and he has to start to face his problems..but is unable to cope..I think he's a great actor and I really salute Corrie for taking depression as a storyline. I hope that Steve and Michelle will fall in love again.

I was fully in agreement with you about Steve's depression until the last sentence! I hope Steve never takes Michelle back as she's undermined him from day one, but I think that's a futile hope.

[mariba]

I don't like Michelle either-never really have, but I think it would be great to see Michelle grow too and to start treating Steve right. We've seen they do love each other, but Michelle just shows it wrong sometimes..I think most of us make mistakes in relationship and it would be nice to see them pull through..

I don't think Gary's part in Phelan storyline is all forgotten as he played a huge part in it-they were wrong getting in the business with Phelan but they are where they are because of Gary's temper, and he's giving more reasons every day for Owen to be more disappoined on him. If I was in Owen's shoes, I would find it extremely hard to deal with Gary too. It's time for Gary to grow up or leave the street, wouldn't miss him. Hopefully Alya won't get back together with him..!

[Dazzle]

I don't like Michelle either-never really have, but I think it would be great to see Michelle grow too and to start treating Steve right. We've seen they do love each other, but Michelle just shows it wrong sometimes..I think most of us make mistakes in relationship and it would be nice to see them pull through..

I'm not sure I agree with you, but I'm willing to be convinced. We'll have to see how the storyline progresses...

[maidmarian]

I was fully in agreement with you about Steve's depression until the last sentence! I hope Steve never takes Michelle back as she's undermined him from day one, but I think that's a futile hope. [/QUOTE]

Exactly what I thought Dazzle. Despite Maribas
hope I think Steve and Michelle are a no-hope
couple. You can move on from some things
if both people want to and things havent been
too bad. But Michelles mental bullying has been
so persistent & consistent that I hope Steve has
the courage to end it or in real-life his problems
would likely start again.

[maidmarian]

I was fully in agreement with you about Steve's depression until the last sentence! I hope Steve never takes Michelle back as she's undermined him from day one, but I think that's a futile hope. [/QUOTE]

Exactly what I thought Dazzle. Despite Maribas
hope I think Steve and Michelle are a no-hope
couple. You can move on from some things
if both people want to and things havent been
too bad. But Michelles mental bullying has been
so persistent & consistent that I hope Steve has
the courage to end it or in real-life his problems
would likely start again.

[tammyy2j]

Does Anna not know Roy's flat was broken into previously, I hope Carla and Leanne tell about the youths hassling him earlier that day

It is a shame Phelan got away with everything

[tammyy2j]

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