Coronation Street - Current Episode Discussion - IV

[maidmarian]

Thanks Swmc. It's very interesting to get an insight from someone who's lived this experience. I hope your family's troubles have been ironed out now.

I did think that getting Kal together with Leanne prior to the Alya/Gary storyline was a mistake as it makes Kal's reaction to the couple nonsensical. But then Swmc has explained that the rules are different for Alya anyway, so maybe the writers did it to highlight his hypocrisy...

There does seem to be some difference to me.
Kal has been married had children etc- presumably
with parents approval and is now widowed-perhaps
he thinks-its me time! Would he in real life be stigmatised
for having an affair after wifes death. What would
the attitude be to a widow in these circs.

Alya is a young girl who has not been married yet
and is a different time/ generation.
I expect its only part of equation but Kal knows abt
the PSTD and will have seen Gary in even worse situations
than the viewers so I would hope there is some
concern for his daughters welfare in with the
hypocracy.
I agree girls should not be forced into marriages
where boys wouldnt. One thing that concerns
me is where although the groom is religiously
& ethnically acceptable but has some impairment
or unpleasant personality would the parents try
to find anr choice - accepting the girl wont be in
love in either case- or plough ahead with first
choice.
Although its only a very small strata of English/
British society /in the arisocracy etc money still
marries bigger money and titles marry titles- in fact
its prob how they got them centuries ago. There are
well known examples in recent decades and don't
think males has more choice in matter than females.

But its many thanks to swmc for her answer .
The situation poses many questions and I hope
there will be equal treatment for girls in the
near future- but thats against centuries of
practise.

[maidmarian]

Thanks Swmc. It's very interesting to get an insight from someone who's lived this experience. I hope your family's troubles have been ironed out now.

I did think that getting Kal together with Leanne prior to the Alya/Gary storyline was a mistake as it makes Kal's reaction to the couple nonsensical. But then Swmc has explained that the rules are different for Alya anyway, so maybe the writers did it to highlight his hypocrisy...

There does seem to be some difference to me.
Kal has been married had children etc- presumably
with parents approval and is now widowed-perhaps
he thinks-its me time! Would he in real life be stigmatised
for having an affair after wifes death. What would
the attitude be to a widow in these circs.

Alya is a young girl who has not been married yet
and is a different time/ generation.
I expect its only part of equation but Kal knows abt
the PSTD and will have seen Gary in even worse situations
than the viewers so I would hope there is some
concern for his daughters welfare in with the
hypocracy.
I agree girls should not be forced into marriages
where boys wouldnt. One thing that concerns
me is where although the groom is religiously
& ethnically acceptable but has some impairment
or unpleasant personality would the parents try
to find anr choice - accepting the girl wont be in
love in either case- or plough ahead with first
choice.
Although its only a very small strata of English/
British society /in the arisocracy etc money still
marries bigger money and titles marry titles- in fact
its prob how they got them centuries ago. There are
well known examples in recent decades and don't
think males has more choice in matter than females.

But its many thanks to swmc for her answer .
The situation poses many questions and I hope
there will be equal treatment for girls in the
near future- but thats against centuries of
practise.

[maidmarian]

I thought the scenes were played out realistically in the Gary and Alya scenes on Friday for the first time. Having experienced it through my brothers who both married who they wanted to and we girls were not allowed to do the same.

Thankyou v much for your reply swmc.
Ive also sent a reply to Dazzle.
One question that I would like to ask please-
If you dont think it impertinent.
"shame can only be brought by Girls".
I wondered if that was part of the original
tracts or some religious persons interpretations
of them. In other religions a lot of problems
are caused more by"interpretations" than
the original teachings!!
Thanks again MM

[Perdita]

I don't know what kind of mobile phone Kylie has but I can block unwanted callers on mine and I can put it on Silent if I don't want others to know when somebody is calling me .... just saying

[lizann]

I don't know what kind of mobile phone Kylie has but I can block unwanted callers on mine and I can put it on Silent if I don't want others to know when somebody is calling me .... just saying

all she needed was a new sim (new number) not a new phone

[lizann]

I don't know what kind of mobile phone Kylie has but I can block unwanted callers on mine and I can put it on Silent if I don't want others to know when somebody is calling me .... just saying

all she needed was a new sim (new number) not a new phone

[Perdita]

That would be another option, yes

[swmc66]

Girls must not have had relationships before marriage. Same rule applies to boys but they get away with it as boys will be boys and they cannot come home pregnant. i was told two weeks before I got married that I was going to get married. My mother booked the hall first and ordered the invite cards before telling me. It was a shock and i became really ill. You could call it a forced marriage. Horrible times especially as they had educated me etc and i was born here. But the pressure was immense and in my early 20's i did'nt think i could fight it. The only option was to run away but i did'nt want to do that as I loved my family. My parents thought this was normal but my siblings did not. They were brought up here too. But i was the first one they did this to. Having said that I have been married 23 years ... The first 10 were not very nice times but we are in a good place now. I would not do this to my children at all so times are changing.

[maidmarian]

Girls must not have had relationships before marriage. Same rule applies to boys but they get away with it as boys will be boys and they cannot come home pregnant. i was told two weeks before I got married that I was going to get married. My mother booked the hall first and ordered the invite cards before telling me. It was a shock and i became really ill. You could call it a forced marriage. Horrible times especially as they had educated me etc and i was born here. But the pressure was immense and in my early 20's i did'nt think i could fight it. The only option was to run away but i did'nt want to do that as I loved my family. My parents thought this was normal but my siblings did not. They were brought up here too. But i was the first one they did this to. Having said that I have been married 23 years ... The first 10 were not very nice times but we are in a good place now. I would not do this to my children at all so times are changing.

you must have a very strong character to have
come thru all this and yet retain your postitivity.
I think big changes can be made by individuals
making changes in own attitudes and its good
to know your children wont be treated the same
as you were.

There have been some unpalatable( by todays
standards) marriage customs in this country
until relatively recently!
It takes courage to go against long-held
traditions so its good that you did not
turn against your parents- tho it must have
been hard not too.

[maidmarian]

Girls must not have had relationships before marriage. Same rule applies to boys but they get away with it as boys will be boys and they cannot come home pregnant. i was told two weeks before I got married that I was going to get married. My mother booked the hall first and ordered the invite cards before telling me. It was a shock and i became really ill. You could call it a forced marriage. Horrible times especially as they had educated me etc and i was born here. But the pressure was immense and in my early 20's i did'nt think i could fight it. The only option was to run away but i did'nt want to do that as I loved my family. My parents thought this was normal but my siblings did not. They were brought up here too. But i was the first one they did this to. Having said that I have been married 23 years ... The first 10 were not very nice times but we are in a good place now. I would not do this to my children at all so times are changing.

you must have a very strong character to have
come thru all this and yet retain your postitivity.
I think big changes can be made by individuals
making changes in own attitudes and its good
to know your children wont be treated the same
as you were.

There have been some unpalatable( by todays
standards) marriage customs in this country
until relatively recently!
It takes courage to go against long-held
traditions so its good that you did not
turn against your parents- tho it must have
been hard not too.