DAvid and Kylie!!!

[swmc66]

Agree David does have a history but he has changed in many ways and always seems to put the children first. He has been brilliant with Max since his diagnosis.

[Dazzle]

Agree David does have a history but he has changed in many ways and always seems to put the children first. He has been brilliant with Max since his diagnosis.

It was less than a year ago that he tried to kill Nick though!

[Perdita]

I don't think he set out to kill him though .. I think the argument in the car just sent David over the top, I don't think he ever meant to seriously hurt Nick let alone kill him

[maidmarian]

Agree David does have a history but he has changed in many ways and always seems to put the children first. He has been brilliant with Max since his diagnosis.

Im afraid we will have to disagree on this one.
There have been some recent improvements
in Davids behaviour in certain areas but this
has to be set against years of inexplicable
nastiness and evil ( still continuing )
against a lot of people-usually for no
other reason than things dont suit him.
Until it is established what has caused
this ingrained pattern of behaviour,
treatment received and his acceptance
that there is a problem- then his occasional
improvements dont mean he is safe to
have care of children - no matter how
genuine his affection .
It would be great to think everyone was
redeenable but it requires much more
consistent effort than is shown at the
moment.
Basically the producers are after increased
ratings and the saying that everyone in
Corrie will get a come uppance isnt true
with David.
My bottom line- where children are involved-
is you cant take chances.

in pu

[maidmarian]

Agree David does have a history but he has changed in many ways and always seems to put the children first. He has been brilliant with Max since his diagnosis.

Im afraid we will have to disagree on this one.
There have been some recent improvements
in Davids behaviour in certain areas but this
has to be set against years of inexplicable
nastiness and evil ( still continuing )
against a lot of people-usually for no
other reason than things dont suit him.
Until it is established what has caused
this ingrained pattern of behaviour,
treatment received and his acceptance
that there is a problem- then his occasional
improvements dont mean he is safe to
have care of children - no matter how
genuine his affection .
It would be great to think everyone was
redeenable but it requires much more
consistent effort than is shown at the
moment.
Basically the producers are after increased
ratings and the saying that everyone in
Corrie will get a come uppance isnt true
with David.
My bottom line- where children are involved-
is you cant take chances.

in pu

[maidmarian]

[QUOTE=Perdita;813486]I don't think he set out to kill him though .. I think the argument in the car just sent David over the top, I don't think he ever meant to seriously hurt Nick let alone kill him[/QUOTE

Not a legal expert but I akways thought no
meaning to kill someone but succeeding in
doing so just -
possibly reduced the charge from murder
to manslaughter.!!
Not a good recommendation for a parent.

[maidmarian]

[QUOTE=Perdita;813486]I don't think he set out to kill him though .. I think the argument in the car just sent David over the top, I don't think he ever meant to seriously hurt Nick let alone kill him[/QUOTE

Not a legal expert but I akways thought no
meaning to kill someone but succeeding in
doing so just -
possibly reduced the charge from murder
to manslaughter.!!
Not a good recommendation for a parent.

He didnt kill Nick - but was so irrational
at the time- its not possible to know what
he meant to do- including knowing what
he intended to.do himself
Which is one of my main reasons for
thinking he should not have care of children
- because the irrationality is frequent.

[Dazzle]

I'm glad that someone else agrees with me about David, Maid Marian! He's certainly been good to the kids recently, but I think Demon David's still there hiding beneath a very thin veneer of respectability.

I don't think he set out to kill him though .. I think the argument in the car just sent David over the top, I don't think he ever meant to seriously hurt Nick let alone kill him

I remember arguing about this at the time, but I'm certain that David intended to kill Nick. Here are my reasons:-

1. When the crash happened, just before grabbing hold of the wheel David very deliberately undid Nick's seatbelt. There's no other possible reason to do this other than to kill or seriously harm Nick. You can see it at 12.42 in the following video. It happens very quickly but I've paused it and it's definitely Nick's seatbelt he undoes.



2, David was going to put a pillow over Nick's face (ie kill him) when the latter was close to regaining consciousness in the hospital, to prevent the truth getting out. It didn't happen only because they were disturbed.

3. David was accused time and time again by his family of attempting to kill Nick and he never once denied it. I was watching closely for a denial because I was so certain that David tried to kill Nick whilst most people were saying it was an accident.

Anyway, whatever people think of David's motives now, he was seriously dangerous during this storyline and it only happened a year ago. I'd leave my kids with Kylie over David any day!

[Perdita]

Forgot about the pillow ...

[Dazzle]

Forgot about the pillow ...

It's easily done.