Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[Dazzle]

Goods episode last night.

Riveting scene between Shirley and Mick when they were talking about his birth. They've got a very intense chemistry which makes the storyline (which I hated at first) compelling.

So Shirley's got a new love interest? People are speculating that he's

Spoiler:

Mick's real dad (and possibly Dean's too).

What did Lee do to Nancy? Whatever it was I blinked and missed it. It seems that Lee's hiding something.

Ben deserved that pasting for the way he spoke to Johnny.

I feel sorry for poor, deluded Abi. She'd deserve a lot better than Ben even if he were really straight.

[lizann]

lee hit nancy with his elbow when she was breaking his fight with ben up

[monalisa62003]

Not happy with this buster retcon. So shirl loves buster more than she ever did phil does she? she's waited for buster all this time. she was just playing an act for phil? so shes no worse than him really. why make out she was so innocent and heartbroken if she didnt truly love him. she even told phil his name was andy and she hadn't seen him since she was a kid. Either she lied or they've changed it since that aired. Why would she lie to phil? doesn't make sense

Nevermind that but shirl cheated on Kevin with buster and buster knows hes dean's dad ? he must have left shirley pregnant both times then. it cant be a coincidence he left her both times

[monalisa62003]

Not happy with this buster retcon. So shirl loves buster more than she ever did phil does she? she's waited for buster all this time. she was just playing an act for phil? so shes no worse than him really. why make out she was so innocent and heartbroken if she didnt truly love him. she even told phil his name was andy and she hadn't seen him since she was a kid. Either she lied or they've changed it since that aired. Why would she lie to phil? doesn't make sense. For the people that say phil ruined shirleys character, it seems he had nothing to ruin if she never loved him that much anyway. she set out to cause her own misery

Nevermind that but shirl cheated on Kevin with buster and buster knows hes dean's dad ? he must have left shirley pregnant both times then. it cant be a coincidence he left her both times

[Dazzle]

Not happy with this buster retcon. So shirl loves buster more than she ever did phil does she? she's waited for buster all this time. she was just playing an act for phil? so shes no worse than him really. why make out she was so innocent and heartbroken if she didnt truly love him. she even told phil his name was andy and she hadn't seen him since she was a kid. Either she lied or they've changed it since that aired. Why would she lie to phil? doesn't make sense

Nevermind that but shirl cheated on Kevin with buster and buster knows hes dean's dad ? he must have left shirley pregnant both times then. it cant be a coincidence he left her both times

Has it been said that Shirley loves Buster? She probably does love him, or has in the past, but why does that have anything to do with her feelings for Phil? Most of us fall in love with several people in our lifetimes and those feelings can re-emerge upon meeting a former loved-one again.

I'm guessing that Buster probably is Andy, and that we're being kept guessing by only being told his nickname. He and Shirley were hanging out together the year before Mick was born so it's possible (even probable) that he's Mick's dad. He seemed very surprised when Dean accused him of being his dad, so it's possible Shirley didn't tell him that Kevin wasn't the father. We'll find out later whether Dean's got it right.

I don't feel this is a retcon as we know little of Shirley's life before she came to Albert Square.

I enjoyed seeing Shirley back and not moping after Phil.

Good scene between Linda and Lee last night. It's about time the latter's character was given some depth.

[tammyy2j]

I think Buster is Mick's dad not Dean's

I don't think Shirley loves him she is just reconnecting with him as presumably he lives around where the family caravan was and he knew Stan and Tina so must have grown up near them

[monalisa62003]

Has it been said that Shirley loves Buster? She probably does love him, or has in the past, but why does that have anything to do with her feelings for Phil? Most of us fall in love with several people in our lifetimes and those feelings can re-emerge upon meeting a former loved-one again.

I'm guessing that Buster probably is Andy, and that we're being kept guessing by only being told his nickname. He and Shirley were hanging out together the year before Mick was born so it's possible (even probable) that he's Mick's dad. He seemed very surprised when Dean accused him of being his dad, so it's possible Shirley didn't tell him that Kevin wasn't the father. We'll find out later whether Dean's got it right.

I don't feel this is a retcon as we know little of Shirley's life before she came to Albert Square.

I enjoyed seeing Shirley back and not moping after Phil.

Good scene between Linda and Lee last night. It's about time the latter's character was given some depth.

if she truly loves buster / andy and never really loved phil as much as she made out, she is a hypocrite. she thought phil loved sharon more than her and hated it, but all that time she loved andy more than phil? only she made out she was heartbroken phil wouldnt pick her. if he did pick her and was with her, would she leave phil for andy?

its not just about before kevin now. as we've been told shirley cheated on kevin with andy.

I believe phil still loves shirley, he is just very hurt atm. When andy said he was the love of shirleys life, phil wanted to tell andy shirley shot him. Although i dont believe it was to split them up he was just very jealous. there was a look when dean said she shot him and then commenting on her running away again. if he didnt love her, why would he care that she was running away? surely that would be a blessing for him

I know im biased, i was never going to like andy. ive rooted for phil/shirley for years and i dont believe shirl loves andy more than phil either. she was in tears when phil was sent to prison. andy is to shirley like sharon is to phil. right for a while but not for life. phil would never speak to mick the way andy did even without knowing the son involvement. and did i hear andy call shirley a tart? not very nice

[Dazzle]

I've really enjoyed these past couple of episodes and am really liking Buster (or Andy as we now know he is).

I feel that the writers have done Shirley's character a great service by making Buster the father of two of her children. I hope he turns out to be Carly's father too. The thought of Shirley cheating on Kevin with numerous men (especially while he was at home looking after their disabled son) was really stomach turning. If it turns out it was just one man all along, that makes Shirley slightly more sympathetic in my eyes.

I don't see a problem with Shirley loving both Buster and Phil. She hasn't seen Buster for years, since he's been in prison, and fell for Phil in the meantime. Things went terribly wrong between her and Phil and she subsequently reconnected with Buster. That's bound to have churned up long hidden feelings.

[tammyy2j]

I was quite surprised how accepting so quick Dean was of Buster as his dad and that he was going off with him and Shirley, Kevin loved Dean as his own son even though he wasn't his biological dad

I would prefer if somehow Kevin was Dean and Carly's real dad

[tammyy2j]

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