Phil and Sharon

[monalisa62003]

Nothing Shirley did could excuse Phil grabbing her by the throat and threatening to harm her (even kill her?) so viciously. I know Shirley can give as good as she gets, but that crossed the line for me as she was really frightened of Phil in that moment. IMO there's no way in real life that there could be a real and loving partnership of equals after that.

I do understand you're excited at the news though, so I'm happy for you, Mona!



To be fair, they were talking about Phil, not specifying his partner. I personally look away during any kissing scenes, even if the people involved are young and beautiful .

I totally agree that there's nothing wrong with Shirley, and I find it repulsive to read nasty personal comments about her online (not on this site though). Then again, Letitia Dean gets plenty of stick about her looks too. No woman's immune, unfortunately.



Totally agree!

He didnt grab her by the throat, it was her jacket, his hands were nowhere near her head. It was worse when he did it in heather reveal week but he had made up for that since.

I wasnt sure as it was about the shirley affair

The worst ones is people saying phil is an idiot for cheating on someone like sharon with shirley

[Dazzle]

He didnt grab her by the throat, it was her jacket, his hands were nowhere near her head. It was worse when he did it in heather reveal week but he had made up for that since.

Oops...I'm obviously remembering the incident incorrectly, but I do remember clearly that I was left with the feeling that Shirley was seriously scared by him. That's what I was trying to get across.

I wasn't watching during the Heather reveal so I can't compare the two scenes, but I stand by what I said in my earlier post about any future chance of a relationship of equals after such behaviour by Phil.

[monalisa62003]

Oops...I'm obviously remembering the incident incorrectly, but I do remember clearly that I was left with the feeling that Shirley was seriously scared by him. That's what I was trying to get across.

I wasn't watching during the Heather reveal so I can't compare the two scenes, but I stand by what I said in my earlier post about any future chance of a relationship of equals after such behaviour by Phil.

Its easy to see it like that if you didnt rewatch and she definitely was scared, she didnt answer his call the next day.

I didnt like it either, which is why im hoping he treats her better and apologises but i think its what will lead to the passion haha

It waa horrid, he had his hands on her face and pushed her up more aggressively but he was desperate to save ben.

[monalisa62003]

Oops...I'm obviously remembering the incident incorrectly, but I do remember clearly that I was left with the feeling that Shirley was seriously scared by him. That's what I was trying to get across.

I wasn't watching during the Heather reveal so I can't compare the two scenes, but I stand by what I said in my earlier post about any future chance of a relationship of equals after such behaviour by Phil.

Its easy to see it like that if you didnt rewatch and she definitely was scared, she didnt answer his call the next day.

I didnt like it either, which is why im hoping he treats her better and apologises but i think its what will lead to the passion haha

It was horrid, he had his hands on her face and pushed her up more aggressively but he was desperate to save ben.

[Dazzle]

...im hoping he treats her better and apologises but i think its what will lead to the passion haha

I hope he gets down on his bended knees and begs for forgiveness lol

[lizann]

Oops...I'm obviously remembering the incident incorrectly, but I do remember clearly that I was left with the feeling that Shirley was seriously scared by him. That's what I was trying to get across.

I wasn't watching during the Heather reveal so I can't compare the two scenes, but I stand by what I said in my earlier post about any future chance of a relationship of equals after such behaviour by Phil.

yes shirley was scared by him he was very threatening to her

[lizann]

Oops...I'm obviously remembering the incident incorrectly, but I do remember clearly that I was left with the feeling that Shirley was seriously scared by him. That's what I was trying to get across.

I wasn't watching during the Heather reveal so I can't compare the two scenes, but I stand by what I said in my earlier post about any future chance of a relationship of equals after such behaviour by Phil.

yes shirley was scared by him he was very threatening to her

[monalisa62003]

I know others arent fussed, but im just wondering do people think they will actually show them being passionate or will it just be implied they are sleeping together? I'll be gutted if we don't get to see anything, i'm not talking OTT but i loved them for how cute they were when they were together, thats what made them unique. I think more people would like them if phil was being more like how they were but more equal than he was, i remember when they first got together people liked them because of them being equal like that

[monalisa62003]

Well i've got my question answered - theyre tearing each others clothes off LOL but the problem is phil might not be genuine, he sees sharon and marcus and theres other spoilers that he finds out some shocking information (this might be jay related maybe?) cos it says in the next episode he searches for the truth. i hope he doesnt seek shirley out for sex and it happens like the spoilers say it does - naturally and unexpected due to their strong chemistry.

the thing is, even if he doesnt love shirley he still cared about her. I dont believe he would use her in this way after ben killed her best friend and he covered up the murder. had he used her before then, you'd think that would put an end to it and he wouldnt use her again. the way it sounds like its as if hes just with her to wind sharon up, and thats even why the description is like that, thats the way he was with sharon in sharongate. if sharon got wind of the way he was with shirley shed be insanely jealous and then he might dump shirley cos sharon proves her love for him. theyre still having the affair on the 22nd and ben should be back that week, so it would seem silly for him to do that just before bens return.

but if we're meant to believe he loved her before, and their dynamic was so interesting, then dtc has ruined everything about them. even down to phil being himself with shirley is probably bollocks now. they can never be friends again

im surprised shirley thinks hes actually genuine. it doesn't make sense for her to believe him. especially if he still insists hes marrying sharon

[lizann]

i do think in his own way phil does love shirley and her him as they accept each other for who they are, both good and bad, shirley also redeemed herself partially as a parent by being a good mother figure to ben even if did turn into a killer of her best mate hev

sharon will always have hatred for phil for dennis death so they wont be able to have a good relationship and her history with grant will also be a factor

phil needs to wake up the fact he cant be a bully all his life and if he wants a relationshop get rid of his bullying ways

i watch too much dr. phil