Andy Sugden

[lizann]

Didn't his violent behaviour only start when he was with Jo? Nothing happened when he was with Katie before then? I seem to remember Andy blaming Katie for his temper when she went over to see him after Jo left. But nothing happened when he was with Bernice and Kerry. I am beginning to wonder where this will go...

or alicia

[britgirl]

Yeah I had forgotten he was also with Alicia. I'm wondering where ED will go with this? I'm trying to figure out how they will reason his behaviour.

[tammyy2j]

Debbie or Cain will kill him if he slaps Sarah

[britgirl]

Something I did consider but might not even be the reason. The relationships with Jo and Katie were full on and love, whereas Bernice, Alicia and Kerry weren't as serious. Perhaps they might suggest it only happens when he's in love, and his fear of people doing what Katie did to him makes him resentful. He's tried ignoring it, but over time, he finds he cannot control his anger and this makes him lash out.


I know Andy isn't innocent himself, and that my theory is probably incorrect, but I really want to know how ED will carry this out.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

[britgirl]

Something I did consider but might not even be the reason. The relationships with Jo and Katie were full on and love, whereas Bernice, Alicia and Kerry weren't as serious. Perhaps they might suggest it only happens when he's in love, and his fear of people doing what Katie did to him makes him resentful. He's tried ignoring it, but over time, he finds he cannot control his anger and this makes him lash out.


I know Andy isn't innocent himself, and that my theory is probably incorrect, but I really want to know how ED will carry this out.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

[sarah c]

Something I did consider but might not even be the reason. The relationships with Jo and Katie were full on and love, whereas Bernice, Alicia and Kerry weren't as serious. Perhaps they might suggest it only happens when he's in love, and his fear of people doing what Katie did to him makes him resentful. He's tried ignoring it, but over time, he finds he cannot control his anger and this makes him lash out.


I know Andy isn't innocent himself, and that my theory is probably incorrect, but I really want to know how ED will carry this out.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

So if Andy feels he really has something to lose, then that is when he lashes out??

I think that's what you're saying? He if has something worth losing then he defends it at all costs even if perversely that means hurting the very person he loves and doesn't want to lose?

[sarah c]

Something I did consider but might not even be the reason. The relationships with Jo and Katie were full on and love, whereas Bernice, Alicia and Kerry weren't as serious. Perhaps they might suggest it only happens when he's in love, and his fear of people doing what Katie did to him makes him resentful. He's tried ignoring it, but over time, he finds he cannot control his anger and this makes him lash out.


I know Andy isn't innocent himself, and that my theory is probably incorrect, but I really want to know how ED will carry this out.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

So if Andy feels he really has something to lose, then that is when he lashes out??

I think that's what you're saying? He if has something worth losing then he defends it at all costs even if perversely that means hurting the very person he loves and doesn't want to lose?

[lizann]

Something I did consider but might not even be the reason. The relationships with Jo and Katie were full on and love, whereas Bernice, Alicia and Kerry weren't as serious. Perhaps they might suggest it only happens when he's in love, and his fear of people doing what Katie did to him makes him resentful. He's tried ignoring it, but over time, he finds he cannot control his anger and this makes him lash out.


I know Andy isn't innocent himself, and that my theory is probably incorrect, but I really want to know how ED will carry this out.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

he loved alicia and debbie

[lizann]

Something I did consider but might not even be the reason. The relationships with Jo and Katie were full on and love, whereas Bernice, Alicia and Kerry weren't as serious. Perhaps they might suggest it only happens when he's in love, and his fear of people doing what Katie did to him makes him resentful. He's tried ignoring it, but over time, he finds he cannot control his anger and this makes him lash out.


I know Andy isn't innocent himself, and that my theory is probably incorrect, but I really want to know how ED will carry this out.

Anyone have any other thoughts?

he loved alicia and debbie

[britgirl]

Sorry, I don't explain things very well. It's hard putting into words what goes on in my head sometimes.

Something like that, yes, but I think his lashing out is his frustration and his lack of control. Katie slept with Robert, and perhaps he never fully got over it. (I know Andy is no angel and cheated on her later but I'm ignoring that for now).
He's tried to move on but it still lurks in the back of his mind. He had no control over her cheating, and his abuse of Jo can be a form of control as she kept it secret. He did tell Katie it was her fault he was abusive when she met him after Jo's departure, remember?
So Bernice, Kerry and Alicia weren't full on as he didn't want to risk his heart and he was in control. But somehow he always goes back to Katie, whether right or wrong, and he's probably never fully gotten over what she did.

But he's probably worrying he could hurt Katie like he's hurt Jo, and ultimately he pushes Katie away. They've always been close; even when she had trouble with her relationship with Declan, she chose to be with him rather than talk to her husband. Remember the punch ups between them?

Back to my original idea. It's true for Andy that he blames Katie for his anger issues and inability to fully trust and relinquish control again. Which is why unless he gets himself sorted I could never see a future for them.


As I have said it's just a thought.