Hayley hangs up her Red Anorak

[sarah c]

I never said you couldn't make your own decisions. Sorry. In my experience, people I've heard talking at the vets seem to see no alternative, and think the vets know best. So sad.

I don't know who you've heard talking at the vets, but I'm a pet owner with more than a quarter of a century of working with cancer patients, so when a dr or vet says something, I can tell if they're not giving the full picture

[sarah c]

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[swmc66]

I think we should stop this conversation now as it is obviously upsetting people. This thread was about Hayley and somewhere it has been overtaken by another issue. We all have our opinions and whatever side of the viewpoint they are valid to that person. We are not saying you do not love and care for your pets. It's obvious you all do.

[Dazzle]

I think we should stop this conversation now as it is obviously upsetting people. This thread was about Hayley and somewhere it has been overtaken by another issue.

The "somewhere" this thread has been overtaken by another issue was with your comment "I have never understood people putting animals down either" on page 21 of this thread...

[swmc66]

I thought I might of done. Anyway let's end it and talk about the show that's what this forum is about.

[alan45]

Vets are experienced professionals and IMHO they will not just put down a healthy dog without good reason. In my experience they spent a lot of time discussing the possible treatments, likely outcomes and yes the costs too, To say that vets use euthanasia as some sort of money making scheme is plain ludicrous. With the demise of the poor sick animal then thats another income stream gone and besides by recommending more treatment instead of euthanasia he could rake in more money by pointlessly prolonging the animals life.

[Ruffed_lemur]

And I'd known him for 16 years and his look said 'enough make it stop....'

So that's ok then.

[Ruffed_lemur]

I thought I might of done. Anyway let's end it and talk about the show that's what this forum is about.

True. The main thing that annoys me with Hayley wanting to end her life is it's not even about the pain, it's because she doesn't want to be seen as Harold. It may not have happened!

[GloriaW]

It hasn't been about I with me either. What I'm trying to say is I couldn't cope with doing something that my pet doesn't want. Society has made most pet carers believe that euthanasia is ok. I just don't believe it! Much money is made out of it too. Once the power is given to euthanase, it tends to be overused.

It's pretty obvious when an animal is suffering and a correct diagnosis as to what to expect in terms of their survival is available with the present state of veterinary medicine. More accurate is the scenario of a pet owner having the courage to face reality and take the action which would help end their pets suffering.

[GloriaW]

Probably, yes. Animals can't tell us how they feel, humans can. Why take the word of a vet who doesn't know the animal though? If you have a bond with an animal you would know what they want.

That brings new depth of meaning to the word rationalization. If you can't tell when an animal is suffering then I think there may be a bigger problem here. And if you can't accept the medical evidence then all reason has gone out the window.