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Thread: Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzle View Post
    I think Heather was fired by Phil.
    Maybe she seems to have plenty work anyways in the laundrette and also for Janine as a cleaner

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    Quote Originally Posted by tammyy2j View Post
    Maybe she seems to have plenty work anyways in the laundrette and also for Janine as a cleaner
    no one living in the square ever has to work elsewhere do they? it must have a 100% employment record, onsite...I wish I could work in the road where I live....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarah c View Post
    no one living in the square ever has to work elsewhere do they? it must have a 100% employment record, onsite...I wish I could work in the road where I live....
    Plus plenty free childcare and babysistters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siobhan View Post
    but even that is not right.. look what happened in the end... 3 people ended up been hurt.. Christian lost Syed but eventually got him when Syed was caught out, Amira was left with a baby and lost the man she loved and though loved her and Syed had to go on living a lie in a sham marriage. It would have been better to lose the money and save Amira from been a disgrace but no.. Zainab didn't want to look bad in front of the muslim community... I know been gay is a huge sin but as a mother you want the best for your kids and if that mean they go against what you believe but if it makes them happy, isn't that all you could ask for (exception for me is if my kids were murders and rapist, then I would totally shop them)
    There was only one villain in the piece. Syed. He should have been honest with his famly at least before asking virgin muslim girl to marry him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis tanner View Post
    There was only one villain in the piece. Syed. He should have been honest with his famly at least before asking virgin muslim girl to marry him.
    because when faced with social and family pressure that is so easy!!

    For some gay people the pressure on not being gay is so intense it is safer and easier to live a lie...but eventually they have to betruthfull to themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis tanner View Post
    There was only one villain in the piece. Syed. He should have been honest with his famly at least before asking virgin muslim girl to marry him.
    Ok, here is the suitation.. you were confused about your sexuality and you find a girl you like but then meet a guy who makes you feel like you never felt before... on top of this, you have just been forgiven by your parents who you hadn't seen for years and you are back with your family who you deeply missed... do you then say "oh btw I am gay" when you know your parents will never ever speak to you again.. Syed did love Amira but Christian made him feel like he never felt before... what do you do??? it was a very difficult choice for Syed and as Parkerman had said all along, it wouldn't have been so bad if he knew he would have his parent blessing.... Syed lost his family cause he fell in love. I fail to see how he is the villian in all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis tanner View Post
    There was only one villain in the piece. Syed. He should have been honest with his famly at least before asking virgin muslim girl to marry him.
    One villain? And you think that the Masoods should have no blame at all? They were right to ostracise Syed because he was gay were they? They were right to pressurise him to keep quiet about his gay affair? They were right to try and force him to stay with Amira even though he is gay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarah c View Post
    because when faced with social and family pressure that is so easy!!

    For some gay people the pressure on not being gay is so intense it is safer and easier to live a lie...but eventually they have to betruthfull to themselves
    I understand all this. My problem is that his selfishness affects other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siobhan View Post
    Ok, here is the suitation.. you were confused about your sexuality and you find a girl you like but then meet a guy who makes you feel like you never felt before... on top of this, you have just been forgiven by your parents who you hadn't seen for years and you are back with your family who you deeply missed... do you then say "oh btw I am gay" when you know your parents will never ever speak to you again.. Syed did love Amira but Christian made him feel like he never felt before... what do you do??? it was a very difficult choice for Syed and as Parkerman had said all along, it wouldn't have been so bad if he knew he would have his parent blessing.... Syed lost his family cause he fell in love. I fail to see how he is the villian in all this.
    Most Syed fans claim that he has always known that he is gay. Is there any evidence that he deeply missed his family? Is there any evidence that he really loved Amira? There is evidence that he knew that her father was very rich when he met her. What he should have done was NOT propose to her and finish with her. He should then have got together with Christian and left Walford. He wanted the best of all worlds and he ruined this girls life.

    Quote Originally Posted by parkerman View Post
    One villain? And you think that the Masoods should have no blame at all? They were right to ostracise Syed because he was gay were they? They were right to pressurise him to keep quiet about his gay affair? They were right to try and force him to stay with Amira even though he is gay?
    The Masoods were deceived by him untill minutes before the wedding. The ostricised him because of his general behaviour not because he was gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis tanner View Post
    I understand all this. My problem is that his selfishness affects other people.

    Most Syed fans claim that he has always known that he is gay. Is there any evidence that he deeply missed his family? Is there any evidence that he really loved Amira? There is evidence that he knew that her father was very rich when he met her. What he should have done was NOT propose to her and finish with her. He should then have got together with Christian and left Walford. He wanted the best of all worlds and he ruined this girls life.

    The Masoods were deceived by him untill minutes before the wedding. The ostricised him because of his general behaviour not because he was gay.
    Yes, I do think Syed had an idea he was gay but because of his religion he surpressed those thoughts and feelings until he met Christian. And yes, he did love Amira, he said it time and time again plus he had said to Christian that he was so confused cause he loved them both... Plenty of evidence he missed his family..you only have to see the bond between himself and Tamwar to know that, plus even after he got with Christian he had tried so hard to be loved and wanted by his parents. We are looking at religion versus sexuality in this case.. do you go with your heart, i.e Christian or with your head i.e your religion.. He entered the sham marriage to please his parents, another indication that he didn't want them to be disgraced. It only end when he was found out by his Dad and then he told everyone. If he was never caught, I think he would have continued with the double life until Christian said enough is enough...

    They ostricised him cause he was gay.. his family was in disgrace over this and it was clear when Christian was badly beating and Mas walked past him. He is still not allowed in the house or family due to his sexuality, not his behaviour.. I think they could forgive deceit but not him been gay

    I do agree he is very selfish and it does affect other people but my sole annoyance is the behaviour of the parents.. if you children are happy with their sexuality and it makes them happy, then this should be a very strong reason to support them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis tanner View Post
    The ostricised him because of his general behaviour not because he was gay.
    If you think that then you have completely missed the whole point of this very long storyline.

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