Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand suspended from BBC

[Abi]

I've been thinking about this this afternoon..

Russell Brand slept with his grandaughter. And then told him. On a pre-recorded radio show.

When you consider how basic the story actually is, its hard to see why its a scandel. Two concenting adults having sex, and then telling the family. Thats not a crime, and its not "indecent" (Though, perhaps tasteless). Its the fact its on the radio which is the issue.

I'm glad the Radio 2 controller has resigned. The buck lies with her.

EDIT TO ADD:

Just read this. Got to agree with Noel Gallagher on this one:

"Personally, I'm outraged that, yet again, the joyless *******ers who write the columns in the Daily Mail, The Telegraph or The Observer have dictated the tone and are telling people how to behave.

"I've seen the Daily Mail, they said that Russell should be arrested and charged. Arrested for what? For taking the p**s? It's so typical of the English in general. 10,000 people get outraged, but only days after it has happened."

[Perdita]

I don't think that phoning a grandfather and leaving rude messages on his answer machine that a comedian 'sha**ed' his grandaughter 2 years ago is fun in any sense and in my opinion scandalous. There are adult entertainers and comedians being close to the edge and then there is downright being offensive and insulting. Perhaps it is time to look at the boundaries of decency that seem to disappear more and more under the mantle of freedom of speech and individuality and being modern.

[lizann]

Its has a name now "Manuelgate Scandal"

[Perdita]

All unpopular and scandalous incidents quickly get a 'Gate' name

[Jojo]

I do wonder though - if this happened to you or me - us "normal" members of the public, would this kind of treatment/outcry etc be happening - I think not.

I was getting harrassing text messages by phone, with lewd remarks made on them, but did the police do anything, or was anyone interested - No.

Yet the minute, its a celeb involved - all hell breaks loose.

[Trinity]

There are some differences:

1. They were doing it on 'our' time - at work. (And lets face it this sort of this would be a disciplinary offence at my work).

2. They broadcast it to the world.

[Jojo]

And they have been disciplined about it. But if they phoned me and left the message on my answerphone, would there be the same reaction to it, or is it more about it being Andrew Sach's answerphone and talking about his granddaughter? Because there have been many "Fonejacking" scenarios, both radio and on tv, but none have had this effect.

I'm just playing devils advocat here

[Abbie]

I do wonder though - if this happened to you or me - us "normal" members of the public, would this kind of treatment/outcry etc be happening - I think not.

It wouldnt have, we probably wouldnt even heard about it

[Trinity]

I do wonder though - if this happened to you or me - us "normal" members of the public, would this kind of treatment/outcry etc be happening - I think not.

It wouldnt have, we probably wouldnt even heard about it

The only reason we heard about this is because they played it over the radio.....

[Jojo]

I do wonder though - if this happened to you or me - us "normal" members of the public, would this kind of treatment/outcry etc be happening - I think not.

It wouldnt have, we probably wouldnt even heard about it

Exactly Abbie - no one would give a rats backside tbh.

I'm sorry, but this being headline news for the past how many days is now getting ridiculous - there are far more things going on in this world, that to me are far more important in life, than this. Lets move on...