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makes more sense,, yep, sure does,,again I was not around when all the Cindy & Ian stuff happened,, I am picking things up as I go alongOriginally Posted by Siobhan
I don't think it is a hatred of Ian, I think it is more of a possession of Ian.. he wants him for himself cause he really dad rejected him....
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I do not believe Steven is evil. He has relapsed because he went off his medication. I think he is unwell again not evil and since he is ill I am in sympathy with him though I dpo not condone his actions. I agree that he does not hate Ian - rather he is possessive of Ian.I don't think it is a hatred of Ian, I think it is more of a possession of Ian.. he wants him for himself cause he really dad rejected him....
Last edited by Lizzie Brookes; 07-05-2008 at 10:09.
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I really felt for Roxy in last nights episode, Phil was at tad out of order shouting at her. Ben needs to get a grip he annopys me so much.
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Roxy won't get into trouble with the police for running Pat over will she?
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nah, it was an accident and she wasnt going to fast so she wasnt doing anything illegal. as long as the breathaliser is clear/
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Locking your sister up and telling her she is not wanted? killing your nan? so that is not evil???? I beg to differ
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You can differ if you like - fine by me. I was a bit shocked by what he was about to do but though his actions are blatantly wrong it doesn't make him evil if he is not mentally in the right frame of mind. I do not believe he kidnapped Lucy - I think she ran away but contacted Steven and that unfortunately by that time Steven was ill again. I mostly blame this on lazy scriptwriting - he was supposed to be a redeeming charecter. His actions may be evil but he is not - he is clearly not well.Locking your sister up and telling her she is not wanted? killing your nan? so that is not evil???? I beg to differ
Last edited by Lizzie Brookes; 07-05-2008 at 10:57.
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Ok..lets go back to May and Stella.. clearly both unwell but they did acts of evil.. I don't see how steven is any different...
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I know you do not like Steven but I still can't help sympathising with him. I had sympathy for May too - actually May is still one of my favourite charecters. This relapse happened because Steven went off his meds which he shouldn't have done. I can't like Stella because she abused Ben and Ben was a child. These things are complex. I have never ever condoned anyone's wrong actions - I sympathise with some but not others for a multitude of reasons. Janine for example I was very slightly sorry for at Frank's funeral but otherwise no because she had so many chances - from Terry, Billy etc and just wasted them - I am sure Steven would have been glad to have half the chances Janine did. Look with some there are qualities that still make ome people slightly sorry for them.
Sean for instance. I hated his bullying of Gus and with Sean he was going to kill Gus because he was insane but he did not do it in front of Stacey. Sean has some redeeming qualities;
He does not bully or show violence toward women
He truly loved Tanya
He genuinely loves Stacey.
So, though i can dislike him at times when he does wrong and be sorry for him at times when he shows he is not evil he still has those redeeming qualities. With Steven he is part of the Beale family whatever he has done. He is not a stranger like Stella. I know what he tries to do to Pat is shiocking - I did squirm a bit but on the other hand he has never shown any kind of violence towards anyone, least of all women. He may sometimes be unable to control his anger like when he trashed his on stall but he was in shock when he witnessed Pat's accident. He ignored both Lucy and Ian's calls and sat on the bench, shaking. It is true that when he thought Pat was a danger to him....but remember he was off his meds and unwell - not an excuse but a reason. With May I have sympathy because she is infertile and basically I have slightly more empathy with her. May, Steven and Sean do not hurt children - one redeeming feature.
There are very few people I actually hate and mainly because they have no good qualities. With Stella there was no good quality. Trevor and Craig I had to hate because Trevor was an abusive person and Craig was a psychopath. Both were strangers, not a member of a family in the square. It was wrong of Steven to lie to Lucy but I do not believe that he would actually hurt her. We will have to agree to dffer on this. By ther way that is the reason partly that I have not posted here that much. I have still been reading these boards. I just chose to post only on the Steven Beale Appreciation Thread until I agreed with what you said about Steven not hating Ian but being possessive of him.
Last edited by Lizzie Brookes; 07-05-2008 at 11:20.
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I see no difference between Steven and May and Stella, they are all mentally bent, and yes EVIL ..
Lizzie you can defend Steven and all the evil characters you want but at the end of the day they are EVIL.
Siobhan is right they were unwell and they did acts of evil,but Lizzie no matter now many excuses u come up with for Steven he is pure evil
Last edited by JustJodi; 07-05-2008 at 11:31.
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