week 49

[Siobhan]

but I hated Stella and while I had perhaps a sliver of sympathy for May Wright she deserved o be arrested and locked up for what she did.

I hated Stella for what she did to ben but when I seen the way the Mitchell treated her, i actually felt sorry for her.. The way the dress maker and Aunt Sal commented on her been ugly and plain.. I did really feel for her. She was out of her head and just wanted someone to love her
May, I felt for her too right up til the end where she decided to cut Dawn open.. but Steven.. I don't know what is it about him, I think he is taken stuff out on the wrong person.. He is angry at his Dad Simon but somehow feels the need to take this out on Ian....

[Jojo]

The thing I personally find with characters in soaps is that it's very easy to care for the character, no matter what they do. There's been many a murderer that I just can't help forgive in soaps! EE have shown the aftermath with Steven aswell as with the Beales. I have sympathy for Steven too.

I wouldn't go quite that far though. In Steven's case the shooting of Jane was accidental and not really his fault as Lucy gave him the gun but I hated Stella and while I had perhaps a sliver of sympathy for May Wright she deserved o be arrested and locked up for what she did. If I were in Lucy's shoes and it had been real life I would perhaps have visited Steven in prison because family love is unconditional.

I don't know about family love being unconditional - in an ideal world yes it is, but my brother and dad haven't spoken for over 10 years since my parents divorced and as far as my dad is concerned now, my brother isn't even welcome at his funeral.

If I were Lucy, I would probably have visited Steven as I was the one that put the gun in his hand in the first instance, and it was accidental, but if it was on purpose etc - I'm not so sure then.

[Lizzie Brookes]

but I hated Stella and while I had perhaps a sliver of sympathy for May Wright she deserved o be arrested and locked up for what she did.

I hated Stella for what she did to ben but when I seen the way the Mitchell treated her, i actually felt sorry for her.. The way the dress maker and Aunt Sal commented on her been ugly and plain.. I did really feel for her. She was out of her head and just wanted someone to love her
May, I felt for her too right up til the end where she decided to cut Dawn open.. but Steven.. I don't know what is it about him, I think he is taken stuff out on the wrong person.. He is angry at his Dad Simon but somehow feels the need to take this out on Ian....

That's interesting. The way you are about Steven is the way I am about both Stella and May and the way you are about Stella and May is the way I am about Steven. But different people have different readings I suppose. Steven at least never hurt anyone in a physical way whereas May handcuffed Dawn to that bed and Stella did allthose horrendous things to Ben - Stella's worse. oth women ought to have been imprisoned - at least one was. I liked May as a doctor at first buit then when she started to show her true colours I hated her. I liked Stella up until the time she hid from Ben in the London dungeons - that scared him to death. Children get so frightened when they can't find their carers - that was sick and it just grew worse. Can't blame Phil or Dawn for how they reacted, I'd have done the same. No sympathy whatsoever for May or Stella in my case. In Steven's case the gunshot was accidental and he's a messed up kid so I really feel for him.

[Lizzie Brookes]

The thing I personally find with characters in soaps is that it's very easy to care for the character, no matter what they do. There's been many a murderer that I just can't help forgive in soaps! EE have shown the aftermath with Steven aswell as with the Beales. I have sympathy for Steven too.

I wouldn't go quite that far though. In Steven's case the shooting of Jane was accidental and not really his fault as Lucy gave him the gun but I hated Stella and while I had perhaps a sliver of sympathy for May Wright she deserved o be arrested and locked up for what she did. If I were in Lucy's shoes and it had been real life I would perhaps have visited Steven in prison because family love is unconditional.

I don't know about family love being unconditional - in an ideal world yes it is, but my brother and dad haven't spoken for over 10 years since my parents divorced and as far as my dad is concerned now, my brother isn't even welcome at his funeral.

If I were Lucy, I would probably have visited Steven as I was the one that put the gun in his hand in the first instance, and it was accidental, but if it was on purpose etc - I'm not so sure then.

It was accidental and Lucy did givbe him the gun. He was in complete shock afterwards - going on about Simon as he cooked Lucy food and having that mental breakdown in the car.

[Siobhan]

Can't blame Phil or Dawn for how they reacted, I'd have done the same. No sympathy whatsoever for May or Stella in my case. In Steven's case the gunshot was accidental and he's a messed up kid so I really feel for him.

so by the same reasoning, you can't blame Jane or Ian for how they reacted??

[Lizzie Brookes]

Can't blame Phil or Dawn for how they reacted, I'd have done the same. No sympathy whatsoever for May or Stella in my case. In Steven's case the gunshot was accidental and he's a messed up kid so I really feel for him.

so by the same reasoning, you can't blame Jane or Ian for how they reacted??

It's understandasble that Ian and Jane feel angry, upset and betrayed because Steven did do wrong but Jane admitted she was wrong to hit him and I can't help wishing Ian had done what Jane did and just ignored Steven the first few weeks instead of sniping t him. It's clearly going to take time to build brdges as Lucy said and I am glad Steven is following Stacey's advice and stepping back for a while. It was a bit too cruel to smashj the snowglbe because that wasn'tt harming anyone. I don;'t blame Ian and Jane - I sympathise with them too but I am very sorry for Steven though i wasn't for Stella or May. I don't think prison would have done Steven any good and though as Tanya said what he did was criminal, he didn't mean to do it, it was an accident and it was unfortunate that the gun ended up in his hands. Stella was evil. May - well half way between Stella and Steven. Steven did wrong but was ill and is now repenting and trying to redeem himself. I never saw Stella or May repenting or admitting to needing help.

[Siobhan]

we shall see what happens with Steven.. I don't think he has redeemed himself.. he was asked to stay away but didn't... he should respect Ian and Jane and give them the space to come to him but he invade their home and that is not on

[Perdita]

we shall see what happens with Steven.. I don't think he has redeemed himself.. he was asked to stay away but didn't... he should respect Ian and Jane and give them the space to come to him but he invade their home and that is not on

He is genuinely sorry for the accidental shooting, I think he must be told the extent of Jane's injuries to fully understand why his presence is not wanted by the Beales.

[Lizzie Brookes]

we shall see what happens with Steven.. I don't think he has redeemed himself.. he was asked to stay away but didn't... he should respect Ian and Jane and give them the space to come to him but he invade their home and that is not on

He is genuinely sorry for the accidental shooting, I think he must be told the extent of Jane's injuries to fully understand why his presence is not wanted by the Beales.

I agree with Cupid. He has redeemed himself somewhat by asking for and recieving help and by feeling sorry for what he has done. I know he is desperate to apologise and make amends but it is true that he needs to give Ian and Jane some space. He seemed to be following Stacey's advice on Friday and Monday - casually saying goodnight to Ian and then ignoring Ian when he came into the pub and sitting with Stacey and Bradley instead. He should know the truth about Jane - he has the right to know and if I were him I would want to know too.

[Siobhan]

I think the truth could really send him over the edge.. maybe it will make him think about his behaviour but known that he stopped Jane's chances of having kids might really mess him up