Panorama Tonight 21.00 BBC1

[Wizardardo]

Alot of newspaper rumours will come out now

Panorama seems to have that effect on cases

[DaVeyWaVey]

The media were onto the McCanns like a shot - so there is no chance they could have killed their daughter, then got rid of the body and any evidence without no one noticing, as the police and the media started crawling all over them as soon as Maddie went missing.

[Wizardardo]

The McCanns already said that they not in the words "Drugged" but they have said that they used a method to knock Maddy out because she has trouble sleeping. Why else would they go out and leave her alone. Imagine if she woke up and nobody was there. She's 3 years old for gods sake and there was also the twins

If you want to dispose of a body there is a large ocean there where it's impossible to find a body if it went in. I'm not saying they definitely did it. It's personal opinion and to be fair weather they did it or not they would have to go about it the way they are now as not to arouse suspicion or if they did do it to get the blame away from them

Plus they also said they would never leave Portugal until Maddy was found and now they are back in England

Lots of children have trouble sleeping. Lots of parents use remedies like Kalms etc for children to induce natural sleepiness. Why should that be any different when they go on holiday? It doesn't mean that they specifically gave her something to help her sleep with the intention of going out, hoping she would sleep.

I don't know what you mean by "why else would they go out and leave her alone?"

If you dispose of a body in the sea then you have to weight the body down sufficiently to ensure that it doesn't float. Then you have to hire a boat, get far enough out to sea (at least a mile), dump the body then get back. There is no way that that could have been done in the time frame and without anybody noticing something.

They came back to England on the advice of child psychologists to ensure as normal a life for the twins as they could. Even though one of their children is missing they still have two others, plus their jobs, mortgage, bills etc to consider.

To be fair we could argue about this until the end of time and all we would have is speculation

All I'm saying is every day and the longer it goes on the finger is pointing more and more at The McCanns. After all if the police can't solve it how are a bunch of people on a Internet forum supposed to

[Wizardardo]

The one thing i will say is the evidence that has been released and that is that blood was found on the hire car and if you watched the show tonight the mileage on the car is a hell of a lot more than what they say they have used the car for and that is a fact. That was what led to them being named as suspects so that is fact

[Abigail]

An attempt has been made to bring a private prosection against the McCann's for child neglect apparently.

The Daily Express amongst other news agencies has reported this recently.

She (Kate McCann) has also now decided to refuse to undergo a lie detector test also apparently (story here).

This from the guy who has tried to bring numerous private prosecution against people and all either got thrown out of court or resulted in no conviction. It was in the Daily Mail one day last week.

How the hell did he get hold of six pages of evidence anyway when he hasn't met the couple and has absolutely nothing to do with the investigation?

I'm sorry but I can't believe that Kate and Gerry are the only parents in the world that would leave their children whilst they go out for a meal. If, as is thought by the police and the PI's, the McCann's were being stalked and Maddy was stolen to order, then these people would have found a way to take her anyway.

[Wizardardo]

But in that case why just Maddy? The twins were there as well

[Chloe O'brien]

I don't believe they drugged Maddie or any of their other children intentionally, maybe they gave them some calpol but that still doesn't excuse them from leaving the children alone in a hotel room. It was a family holiday they could have let the kids sleep in their buggies while they eat or let them stay up later with them being on holiday. If they were back home would they leave the children alone in the house while they went out for a meal on a Saturday night. No!! so why do it when they're abroad. and let's not forget it wasn't just the McCanns that left their childen alone but the other adults who they were on holiday with. They should all face some kind of criminal charge for leaving the children alone.

[Abigail]

The one thing i will say is the evidence that has been released and that is that blood was found on the hire car and if you watched the show tonight the mileage on the car is a hell of a lot more than what they say they have used the car for and that is a fact. That was what led to them being named as suspects so that is fact

Yes but the hire car was also returned to the dealer and several people used the car after it was returned. Forensics weren't carried out until six weeks after the car was returned by which time several different people had used the car and contaminated it.

Maddy also cut her knee when getting off the plane (video footage proves this) and it was on her clothes, which were in the car when the McCann's moved apartments.

The DNA evidence is inconclusive. Maddy will share a very high percentage of her DNA with her parents and siblings. Without a complete profile from Maddy then it is impossible to say for certain that it is her blood in the car.

To be honest, the whole police case is a shambles. The car wasn't taken for evidence for six week. Th apartment wasn't fully forensicated, the mattress and bedsheets weren't examined; they could have produced a fingerprint or DNA from somebody else.

[DaVeyWaVey]

But there's also eye witness statements, about various people seeing a figure acting suspicious, days before Maddie was abducted, and on the same night, that woman who was on Panoroma said she seen someone carry a child, so that pushes the theory that Maddie was abducted..

I'm sorry, but it doesn't ring true to me that the McCanns could have been responsible. They were extremely foolish leaving their children and the poor couple have been overanalysed, ever since their daughter went missing and been called suspicious just because of "the way they act" I'm sure people react in different ways to any tragedy that happens..but the McCanns have to act in a certain way according to the police to not have the finger pointed at them - pure rubbish evidence if they are looking to blame them if you ask me.

[Wizardardo]

The one thing i will say is the evidence that has been released and that is that blood was found on the hire car and if you watched the show tonight the mileage on the car is a hell of a lot more than what they say they have used the car for and that is a fact. That was what led to them being named as suspects so that is fact

Yes but the hire car was also returned to the dealer and several people used the car after it was returned. Forensics weren't carried out until six weeks after the car was returned by which time several different people had used the car and contaminated it.

Maddy also cut her knee when getting off the plane (video footage proves this) and it was on her clothes, which were in the car when the McCanns moved apartments.

The DNA evidence is inconclusive. Maddy will share a very high percentage of her DNA with her parents and siblings. Without a complete profile from Maddy then it is impossible to say for certain that it is her blood in the car.

To be honest, the whole police case is a shambles. The car wasn't taken for evidence for six week. Th apartment wasn't fully forensicated, the mattress and bedsheets weren't examined; they could have produced a fingerprint or DNA from somebody else.

I agree with you there. The whole case is a shambles but the only thing that's leading me to this is that they haven't found any evidence of anybody else being involved

Even the best criminals in the world leave clues or slip up somewhere but this is just to perfect of a crime if it was a snatch