England goes smoke-free

[alan45]

Well, thats my opinion, like you have yours - I have mine.

Well opinions do not give you rights. With rights come responsibilities

[SarahWakefield]

Well, thats my opinion, like you have yours - I have mine.

Well opinions do not give you rights. With rights come responsibilities

I wasnt actually saying that to the post you have just done, it was to the one before, I forgot to quote it.

[alan45]

Well, thats my opinion, like you have yours - I have mine.

Well opinions do not give you rights. With rights come responsibilities

I wasnt actually saying that to the post you have just done, it was to the one before, I forgot to quote it.

Whatever

you have failed to address anything I have put to you. There is little point in continuing this conversation with someone such as you. This is my FINAL post to you on the subject. I believe I have proven my case and can supply you with any facts you need or contradict any lies the smoking lobby put forward. Obviously you do not deal with facts so any attempt at reasonable discussion would be pointless.

Smoke away if thats your wish, dispute the evidence thats your right.

[SarahWakefield]

Well, thats my opinion, like you have yours - I have mine.

Well opinions do not give you rights. With rights come responsibilities

I wasnt actually saying that to the post you have just done, it was to the one before, I forgot to quote it.

Whatever

you have failed to address anything I have put to you. There is little point in continuing this conversation with someone such as you. This is my FINAL post to you on the subject. I believe I have proven my case and can supply you with any facts you need or contradict any lies the smoking lobby put forward. Obviously you do not deal with facts so any attempt at reasonable discussion would be pointless.

Smoke away if thats your wish, dispute the evidence thats your right.

Someone such as me? Meaning what? I'm scum because I smoke you can bet.

When I first clicked into this topic it says at the top: Is the smoking ban in England a good or a bad thing? I decided to vote that it's a bad thing, obviously because i'm biast because I smoke.

But because I cant give an argument to as why I think its a bad thing I get made to be the bad person because I smoke.

There is nothing I can say to a non-smoker about been able to smoke in pubs/cafe's etc, because anything I would say is unacceptable to a non smoker.

[SarahWakefield]

And another thing that is totally unacceptable:

My grandma needs a hip replacement, the NHS won't do it because she smokes.

Sooo, there's been a terrible accident involving 2 cars let's say. One person is seriously hurt and needs emergency surgery.

"Mr Smith do you smoke?"

"Yes Doctor, I do"

"Oh sorry then, we will have to leave you to die"

I know that's nothing to do with the smoking ban, but its something else that's to do with smoking which is totally wrong.

[Meh]

And another thing that is totally unacceptable:

My grandma needs a hip replacement, the NHS won't do it because she smokes.

Sooo, there's been a terrible accident involving 2 cars let's say. One person is seriously hurt and needs emergency surgery.

"Mr Smith do you smoke?"

"Yes Doctor, I do"

"Oh sorry then, we will have to leave you to die"

I know that's nothing to do with the smoking ban, but its something else that's to do with smoking which is totally wrong.

I think that's a bit extreme. Two people need a liver, but one needs it because he's an alcoholic. My moneys on the other person getting it. Even thought they don't admit it, discrimination will take place

[alan45]

And another thing that is totally unacceptable:

My grandma needs a hip replacement, the NHS won't do it because she smokes.

Sooo, there's been a terrible accident involving 2 cars let's say. One person is seriously hurt and needs emergency surgery.

"Mr Smith do you smoke?"

"Yes Doctor, I do"

"Oh sorry then, we will have to leave you to die"

I know that's nothing to do with the smoking ban, but its something else that's to do with smoking which is totally wrong.

I think that's a bit extreme. Two people need a liver, but one needs it because he's an alcoholic. My moneys on the other person getting it. Even thought they don't admit it, discrimination will take place

Pecisely. Two people need a lung tansplant who gets it. The smoker who has inflicted it upon themselves or the non smoker who was poisoned by passive smoking. No prizes for guessing the correct answer. Now i wont go into thmorality of the decision. I may sound bitter but I am alive today because earlier this year I had a stroke and was told by the consultant had I been a smoker I would have died. I have asthma because I worked in confined spaces full of smokers. Am I bitter. You can bet your Iron Lung Im bitter.

[SarahWakefield]

So everyone is just against everything I say? Great stuff.

[Meh]

So everyone is just against everything I say? Great stuff.

I don't think anyone has anything against you personally. Looks like the views on the thread support the poll.

[SarahWakefield]

...Hmmmm, just looks like we will have to get on with it I suppose!