England goes smoke-free

[alan45]

Do this quiz you may shock yourself

http://www.jeffreywigand.com/knowledgetest.php

[SarahWakefield]

Its not ok for you to breathe in smoke, but yet, it is ok for you to breathe in the crap that comes from cars? ...hmmmmm, ok then! Yes, yes....do go on, say what you said before about cars been made so there arent alot of whatever anymore, still dangerous and ive got to inhale that stuff! Do you see us complaning about that? Noooooooo!!!

It actually really really winds me up.

Tonight in the nightclub we went outside for a smoke and a non smoker was out complaining, erm hello....get back inside then, you wanted it like this so dont come outside chuffing complaining!

[SarahWakefield]

That's another thing.. Now that you can't smoke in clubs and pubs etc, there are alot of drunk people smoking outside in the street (For the places that haven't got a shelter), And it make me nervous walking in front of them, so I'll cross the road if possible, but it doesn't stop them making remarks. It's intimidating, particularly for teenagers and the elderly people.

This maybe the case, id feel intimidated too, but where should we go? We are outside, not polluting your air but yet still getting complaints?

I dont get it! ...I really dont!

[alan45]

Im not saying that drinking necessarily harms others around you, but in general people are ill from drinking.

Seems anything I say just gets dismissed so ill say nothing else on the matter, apart from i think its totally wrong!

Make your mind up

Its not ok for you to breathe in smoke, but yet, it is ok for you to breathe in the crap that comes from cars? ...hmmmmm, ok then! Yes, yes....do go on, say what you said before about cars been made so there arent alot of whatever anymore, Ok as you insist then. Cars are being made safer im the pollutants that they now produce. Most cars are now fitted with Catalytic Convertors. Not all cars are using fossill fuels nowadays, I take it you have heard of hybrid cars, cars which run on bio fuels. All cars are tested to make sure they do not produce excessive pollutants. The motor industry is constantly striving to make motor vehicles more environmentally friendly. Generally cars dont drive into enclosed spaces such as pubs, night clubs, cinemas and offices.still dangerous and ive got to inhale that stuff! Do you see us complaning about that? Noooooooo!!!Spoken like a true nictine addict and apolgist for the tobacco industry

It actually really really winds me up.I know what you mean but its about time the Government tackled one of the major preventable causes of death in this country

Tonight in the nightclub we went outside for a smoke and a non smoker was out complaining, erm hello....get back inside then, you wanted it like this so dont come outside chuffing complaining!

Obviously you were congregated round the doorway where your toxic fumes were being carried into the night club

That's another thing.. Now that you can't smoke in clubs and pubs etc, there are alot of drunk people smoking outside in the street (For the places that haven't got a shelter), And it make me nervous walking in front of them, so I'll cross the road if possible, but it doesn't stop them making remarks. It's intimidating, particularly for teenagers and the elderly people.

This maybe the case, id feel intimidated too, but where should we go? Why not go and seek advice on quitting before you get lung cancer or emphysema. You are probably an educated woman consider your own health and read the dacts about the harm you are doing to yourself and others. Its no point lying in hosptal minus a lung thinking Oh if only I had given up smokingWe are outside, not polluting your air but yet still getting complaints?

I dont get it! ...I really dont!

Try searching google to discover a bit more about the effects of smoking

Do this quiz you may shock yourself

http://www.jeffreywigand.com/knowledgetest.php

I assume you didnt bother to take the test You really should. It may open your eyes which seem blinded by smoke

[Jojo]

Whilst I agree with your sentiments Ems. The problem with smoking is that it doesnt just affect the smokers health. It affects the health of those who are forced to breath in the exhaled smoke. If someone drinks too much its only their liver that gets sirosis (sp)

The effects of nicotine and tobacco are well documented.

As for your Dad bringing Guiness into hospital for you I hope you drank it its full of iron. You should have went through BUPA though when my wife was in hospital recovering from major surgery the ward sister used to pour her a glass of Brandy each evening

That is the major problem Alan, it isn't just your own health you damage and thats why I made the choice to stop, to protect and hopefully prolong my life and to keep my children from it. But I also feel that people are being forced into things all the time of late, like not having runny yolks when pregnant (it aint stopping me lol) etc. But obviously, lung cancer is something completely different to that.

The Guiness - oh yes...I drank every can, celebrated the birth of my son and toasted the midwives - who were more than happy me drinking it on the ward - oh how times have changed lol. These days, the most you get on the wards is a cuppa which can't even be described as nice lol. Home birth next time - then I'll have that Guiness to celebrate again

[SarahWakefield]

No actually, we werent congregated round the doorway, we were outside - where we are supossed to be!

[Katy]

Its going to take some geting used to, i mean there are already land lords going against the ban. Eventually i think it will work for the better. Ireland showed us it works and people havent stopped going to the pub because of it, instead its more pleasent. People have set up smoking areas outside which i think is the way forward, i know there is one at my college.

[Pinkbanana]

Its not ok for you to breathe in smoke, but yet, it is ok for you to breathe in the crap that comes from cars? ...hmmmmm, ok then! Yes, yes....do go on, say what you said before about cars been made so there arent alot of whatever anymore, still dangerous and ive got to inhale that stuff! Do you see us complaning about that? Noooooooo!!!

It actually really really winds me up.

None of the posters on this thread, have said that we welcome breathing in car fumes, but you are not really comparing like with like.

Firstly, we are talking about breathing in toxic second hand smoke in confined spaces (ie pubs), whereas, yes you do breathe in fumes from cars but its outside in the open and thus the fumes arent as concentrated...

Secondly, I totally agree that car fumes are a form of pollution, but as Alan45 has said technology is constantly striving to make cars cleaner. Also the government is setting pretty tough targets for manufacturers to meet regarding car emissions.

Moreover, at the end of the day...cars, delivery trucks, buses serve a purpose/function, unlike smoking...

If you want to smoke, that's your choice, noone is saying otherwise....but I am pleased that the smoking ban prevents you from doing it near me. I think Im entitled to a choice too, ie of having a drink, meal etc...without inhaling toxic fumes (which have been medically proved to cause cancer).

[SarahWakefield]

Still wrong, you all keep saying you dont want to inhale second hand smoke, i get that!!

[Pinkbanana]

Still wrong, you all keep saying you dont want to inhale second hand smoke, i get that!!

Erm, its a forum, Im expressing my opinion and responding to yours!