Eastenders is getting more boring with each episode!!!

[babyblue]

I think that is the real problem, Richie. It is the ridiculous story lines and the poor scripting. We still have some great actors in Eastenders, but they just get dreadful stories. Give actors like Adam Woodyat, Wendy Richard, June Brown, Pam St Clement, John Bardon and Rudolph Walker something decent to do and it could get back to how it was....but I'm afraid it won't.

exactly, they are all terrific when they have good storylines, but now days they just mill around getting a bit of a story here and there.

I would love them to delve into jim's past some more and explore that whole relationship with his son. They just did an episode or 2 with some summary of the past...it works much better with the long term development. Look at what they did with Kat, she started off one way and they gradually added layers and she turned into one of the best characters they ever had...same with dennis, alfie, steve, sonia etc and I think they're doing it with stacy and it's working. It's too much about turnover now and they want instant impact all the time, there is no room to create strong characters now days because if they're not really a hit from the off they're not given a chance.

this thread sort of reminds me of sonia telling pauline off for changing her character so much and talking about the olden days when she used to admire her for her values and such and about how down hill she has gone :P It's sort of reflecting what has happened to the quality of eastenders over the years.

[Richie_lecturer]

I would love them to delve into jim's past some more and explore that whole relationship with his son.

Apparently they might well be doing that this year according to rumours. I hope so because I like Jim, who I think has been underused since marrying Dot.

Blimey they were only short clips, but even through a short montage of footage on Pauline's tribute show last night, you could make out the glory days from a mile off.

[Bad Wolf]

i'm in complete agreement with all of you - ee is dull rubbish at the moment, i often dont watch it from one week to the next and the plots dont move on

plus, many of the charcters are not worth caring about - eg, dawn miller, i cannot feel any sympathy for her - they got her wrong from thw word go

[babyblue]

I would love them to delve into jim's past some more and explore that whole relationship with his son.

Apparently they might well be doing that this year according to rumours. I hope so because I like Jim, who I think has been underused since marrying Dot.

I hope those rumours are true. He's been used mainly as a bit of comic relief It'd be nice to see a bit of jim's darkside back again, especially since the odd flash of his deeper side have been brilliant.

[Katy]

i'm in complete agreement with all of you - ee is dull rubbish at the moment, i often dont watch it from one week to the next and the plots dont move on

plus, many of the charcters are not worth caring about - eg, dawn miller, i cannot feel any sympathy for her - they got her wrong from thw word go

I have to agree, i wathced the other night for the first time in ages and nothing had been solved. It was dragging alot.

[Bad Wolf]

i'm in complete agreement with all of you - ee is dull rubbish at the moment, i often dont watch it from one week to the next and the plots dont move on

plus, many of the charcters are not worth caring about - eg, dawn miller, i cannot feel any sympathy for her - they got her wrong from thw word go

I have to agree, i wathced the other night for the first time in ages and nothing had been solved. It was dragging alot.

i watched pauline die - how long did that take!!!!!!!!

it grates on me now - i cannot sit thorugh 30 minutes of it now

[Katy]

Its like last night i watched the first episode and then i missed that second turned it over and they spent five minutes watching everyone cry, what was all that about.

[Bobthechicken]

For me, it isn't the characters that are to blame, it is definitely the script writers. The storylines and scripts now seem to be going round in circles with plots being recycled.

Look at the Mitchells. What is going on with them these days? They are nothing like they used to be. Sonia used to be a gobby, feisty character who was loyal and trustworthy with the potential to be the next Michelle, but they have rewritten her this year. Pat is very underused, Dot and Jim have become caricatures of themselves. Pauline has always been controlling, but her hatred of Sonia to the point where she would hurt Martin and Rebecca is one step too far.

With the newer characters, the Foxes and Brannings have potential but they are already messing them up with the 'who is the daddy' and the ridiculous story of family cheating we are about to see. The Wicks' family are appalling and yet, Phil Daniels could offer so much more.

I don't mind if the odd character returns, because that is quite realistic to see a family member coming home after being away, but to raise the dead was a pathetic clutching at straws.

I don't know what I want from EE anymore. I'm not sure if there was another Steve Owen that they could write for him in the way they would need to. I know thinking about past characters, with nostalgia, they seem to be much better than the ones now but maybe it was simply because the writers could actually write then.

I agree with everything you say. Nail on the head...............EE has some great characters at the moment - the best for a long time IMO (with the notable exception of Deano, Gus, Mickey, Honey, Charlie, Ben.........), but even the good ones end up being ruined by desperate storylines. It's mindnumbing how they do it. The latest is the new Doc, May, who seemed to be really good when she first came in, but is well on the way down that slippery slope now thanks to the stupid pregnancy storyline.

I just pray that they never tinker with Pat's character...........that would be the end!

[alan45]

I just pray that they never tinker with Pat's character...........that would be the end!

Lets hope they dont do to her what they did to Wendy Richards/ Pauline Fowler. I have to say that Pats character has mellowed over the years somewhat.

[callummc]

sorry to disagree with everyone but i think ee is improving a bit,its still to predictable and they are still making silly mistakes-like holding a funeral on new years day,buy at least its not sending me to sleep anymore like the whole of last year did , mind you we are not out of january yet ,so thers plenty of time left.