Emmerdale - Current Episode Discussion - III

[lizann]

Not sure how much Celia interacts with them, has she had any contact at all? Apart from Anya who saw Celia when she was in the boot of the car...

we saw celia give out to them to work harder so he knows she is boss and he is still there

[Son of Cain]

They are not given the wages though, are they.. the wages are being kept safe, the same as any id...bear seems to be suffering from some kind of mental breakdown, he is not thinking clearly. We do not know how all of a sudden there are all these other workers there now, where they have come from.. unless I missed a bit.. but they are scared of Joe and will do extra work even when they are exhausted..

If this is what they are trying to get across I think they are failing, unless of course I am too thick to see it. The bit where we were told Ray is keeping their wages safe. Was this one of those times when it was explained in a few words, blink and you missed it? I do not underestand the bit about "the same as any id". What is an "id" I don't think you missed anything about where the other workers came from, I don't think it was explained, whether they were new or they were always there. I also seem to have missed the bit about them being afraid of Joe, is he the "Big Boss" of the whole gang? As for Bear I really do not know what we are meant think, to me he does not seen to be confused or having a mental breakdown, but if he isn't why does he stay there, why did he not go to fetch medicine for Anya, or fetch Liam. If they had used a less physical imposing character here it would have been far more believable. Bear is too big to bullied like this.
I think they are trying to cover too much in this one story, modern slavery, prostitution and drug dealers. It is a bit much for two people, three counting Joe, to be involved in. Even a large Organized Crime Group would have a hard time keeping track of all this. They could have done a much better believable job if they had just concentrated on one aspect of it. Either drug dealing or modern slavery, but then they would not have been able to involve April and Bear.

[Perdita]

If this is what they are trying to get across I think they are failing, unless of course I am too thick to see it. The bit where we were told Ray is keeping their wages safe. Was this one of those times when it was explained in a few words, blink and you missed it? I do not underestand the bit about "the same as any id". What is an "id" I don't think you missed anything about where the other workers came from, I don't think it was explained, whether they were new or they were always there. I also seem to have missed the bit about them being afraid of Joe, is he the "Big Boss" of the whole gang? As for Bear I really do not know what we are meant think, to me he does not seen to be confused or having a mental breakdown, but if he isn't why does he stay there, why did he not go to fetch medicine for Anya, or fetch Liam. If they had used a less physical imposing character here it would have been far more believable. Bear is too big to bullied like this.
I think they are trying to cover too much in this one story, modern slavery, prostitution and drug dealers. It is a bit much for two people, three counting Joe, to be involved in. Even a large Organized Crime Group would have a hard time keeping track of all this. They could have done a much better believable job if they had just concentrated on one aspect of it. Either drug dealing or modern slavery, but then they would not have been able to involve April and Bear.

id = id card or passport, Ray took Anya's passport to show to the authorities for registering her as employee...

[Son of Cain]

id = id card or passport, Ray took Anya's passport to show to the authorities for registering her as employee...

Of course it does, I must have had a brain freeze there. Probably true that I am too thick to understand this plot.

Mind you, I doubt any authorities ever got a glimpse of Anya's passport, or any bank their wages.

[Perdita]

Why are the Dingles claiming to be broke? Are they not all working?

[tammyy2j]

How did Ray find Anya and the money from Caleb?

[Son of Cain]

How did Ray find Anya and the money from Caleb?

I do not think this has been made clear, it has all been a bit vague. Sse came to this country illegally to work, and sent money back home, but then found out that she was being forced into prostitution to payback her debt to the traffickers. She escaped and found her way into Caleb's van, he thought she had entered the country in the van and did not want to help her. I am not sure who she escaped from whether it from Ray and Celia or the people who brought her to this country. In fact I am not sure if it was Ray and Celia who actually brought her to this country, or if bought her from traffickers, or were lucky and just found her wandering about with the money Caleb gave her. There may be those who understand her journey but I am not one of these people.

[lizann]

if that was suppose to be sad and sombre it failed for me , we didn't see enough of anya and bear or sorry ted to care, celia fitting up moira

[Son of Cain]

Well let's hope Moira does not visit that field until the soil has settled and the grass has regrown.
Was that the same tree that Holly was buried under? Moira's DNA may well be on the blanket but will Ray's be on the body when he moved it?

[Son of Cain]

Why are the Dingles claiming to be broke? Are they not all working?

It is an unwritten, or maybe even written, law of Saops that characters and businesses alternate between being flush and skint. Especially pubs which are giving free drinks away one minute, and putting on pub quizes, Karaoke and special events to bring in the punters, and make more money, the next. For the Dingles it is simply their turn.