Panorama Tonight 21.00 BBC1

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Originally Posted by Wizardardo

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Originally Posted by jelly belly

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Originally Posted by Wizardry

The one thing i will say is the evidence that has been released and that is that blood was found on the hire car and if you watched the show tonight the mileage on the car is a hell of a lot more than what they say they have used the car for and that is a fact. That was what led to them being named as suspects so that is fact

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Yes but the hire car was also returned to the dealer and several people used the car after it was returned. Forensics weren't carried out until six weeks after the car was returned by which time several different people had used the car and contaminated it.

Maddy also cut her knee when getting off the plane (video footage proves this) and it was on her clothes, which were in the car when the McCanns moved apartments.

The DNA evidence is inconclusive. Maddy will share a very high percentage of her DNA with her parents and siblings. Without a complete profile from Maddy then it is impossible to say for certain that it is her blood in the car.

To be honest, the whole police case is a shambles. The car wasn't taken for evidence for six week. Th apartment wasn't fully forensicated, the mattress and bedsheets weren't examined; they could have produced a fingerprint or DNA from somebody else.

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I agree with you there. The whole case is a shambles but the only thing that's leading me to this is that they haven't found any evidence of anybody else being involved

Even the best criminals in the world leave clues or slip up somewhere but this is just to perfect of a crime if it was a snatch

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There is no solid evidence that they are involved. Very weak forensics, yes, but nothing that would stand up in court, as has been proved when the Portugese judge said that the case would not stand up in court. A British high court judge has also reviewed the evidence and said the same. They can't be charged with murder; no body, no weapon, no evidence.

Like Dave said, just because Kate and Gerry acted differently to how other people would react in a situation like this does not mean that they had anything to with her disappearance. They are doctors, they are used to keeping their emotions in check when people die or are seriously ill or there is a high stress situation.

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Originally Posted by jelly belly

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Originally Posted by Wizardardo

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Originally Posted by Wizardry

The one thing i will say is the evidence that has been released and that is that blood was found on the hire car and if you watched the show tonight the mileage on the car is a hell of a lot more than what they say they have used the car for and that is a fact. That was what led to them being named as suspects so that is fact

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Yes but the hire car was also returned to the dealer and several people used the car after it was returned. Forensics weren't carried out until six weeks after the car was returned by which time several different people had used the car and contaminated it.

Maddy also cut her knee when getting off the plane (video footage proves this) and it was on her clothes, which were in the car when the McCanns moved apartments.

The DNA evidence is inconclusive. Maddy will share a very high percentage of her DNA with her parents and siblings. Without a complete profile from Maddy then it is impossible to say for certain that it is her blood in the car.

To be honest, the whole police case is a shambles. The car wasn't taken for evidence for six week. Th apartment wasn't fully forensicated, the mattress and bedsheets weren't examined; they could have produced a fingerprint or DNA from somebody else.

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I agree with you there. The whole case is a shambles but the only thing that's leading me to this is that they haven't found any evidence of anybody else being involved

Even the best criminals in the world leave clues or slip up somewhere but this is just to perfect of a crime if it was a snatch

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There is no solid evidence that they are involved. Very weak forensics, yes, but nothing that would stand up in court, as has been proved when the Portugese judge said that the case would not stand up in court. A British high court judge has also reviewed the evidence and said the same. They can't be charged with murder; no body, no weapon, no evidence.

Like Dave said, just because Kate and Gerry acted differently to how other people would react in a situation like this does not mean that they had anything to with her disappearance. They are doctors, they are used to keeping their emotions in check when people die or are seriously ill or there is a high stress situation.

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There is no way you can say because they are Doctors they can keep there emotions in check when there child is reportedly abducted

Nothing in the world can prepare or help anybody deal with losing a child

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Originally Posted by Wizardardo

There is no way you can say because they are Doctors they can keep there emotions in check when there child is reportedly abducted
Nothing in the world can prepare or help anybody deal with losing a child

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I didn't mean that because they are doctors they can switch their emotions off completly. I meant that they can maybe be more in control that I would be.
It was reported in the news that their spokesperson had told them not to be upset on TV or in the papers because if the abductor was watching they may be getting off on it.

Anyway, I'm going to shut up now and leave this thread because I've said my bit and argued my point and I've run out of things to say. Not meant in a nasty or rude way at all.

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Originally Posted by jelly belly

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Originally Posted by Wizardardo

There is no way you can say because they are Doctors they can keep there emotions in check when there child is reportedly abducted
Nothing in the world can prepare or help anybody deal with losing a child

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I didn't mean that because they are doctors they can switch their emotions off completly. I meant that they can maybe be more in control that I would be.
It was reported in the news that their spokesperson had told them not to be upset on TV or in the papers because if the abductor was watching they may be getting off on it.

Anyway, I'm going to shut up now and leave this thread because I've said my bit and argued my point and I've run out of things to say. Not meant in a nasty or rude way at all.

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lol and a very good point you have made

At the end of the day everybody is going to have an opinion and to be honest unless Maddy is found which i pray to god she is then we will never know

No matter what we all think we all pray she is safe and comes back soon :)

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Originally Posted by Wizardardo

At the end of the day everybody is going to have an opinion and to be honest unless Maddy is found which i pray to god she is then we will never know

No matter what we all think we all pray she is safe and comes back soon :)

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Indeed. All that really matters is that she is found alive and well. I don't want to think about what she might have been through in the past eight months but I suppose that's preferable to not being alive.

if anyone was found to have left three very young children alone in this country then at the very least social services would be involved. why is it been overlooked in their case? i really dont understand why. You never leave young children alone, ever!
and if like we are led to believe quite a few people do it on holiday then they should be ashamed of themselves, if you have children you look after them, not leave them at risk for your own selfish reasons.
sorry to rant on but it does annoy me!
of course i feel really sorry for the McCanns and really hope that madeleine is found safe but they left their children alone, end of story.

I agree.. Gerry was even quoted to have said he was worried about security in the building BEFORE Maddy disappeared, a concern he discussed with Kate and yet they still felt it was OK to leave 3 small children alone. Regards of wether you think they did something or it was an abductor.. it beggers belief that any parent who call themselves RESPONSIBLE would still leave their most precious children in an unlocked room alone if they felt security was a risk!!

That to me is the crime, that to me is what started this chain of events. I wonder is they safely locked up there valuable (jewelery, passport etc) or were they do left out on a table in an unlocked room?????

they should be charged with neglect and reckless abandonment. I would never ever leave my children alone in the most secure of places..

Personally watching this show just made me even more confused on what to think :lol: Was really creepy when Gerry said they could have been in the appartment though!