did kyle have brian's key or his own key
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did kyle have brian's key or his own key
That's a good point, not sure?
It's getting very confusing.
menopausal barbie shirley about sharon :p hope little cute pearl is ok
could it be more serious like cervical cancer for shabs more suffering for her, did kush first wife die from cancer?
menopausal barbie shirley about sharon :p hope little cute pearl is ok
could it be more serious like cervical cancer for shabs more suffering for her, did kush first wife die from cancer?
Wonder if wee Pearl has been taken by Claudette or Phil ,hopefully just to see Santa at the Vic:..:hmm:
That would be a good twist. Phil would not resort to kidnapping a little girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
They seem to be focusing on Jane's accident a lot, perhaps for a reason on Christmas day? :hmm: Shabnam (Rakhee Thakrar ) is outstanding and easily EE best actor on the show. Her scenes were very moving.
A good start to the week, although where has Linda's eating disorder storyline gone to?
Hope no more bad news for Shabs!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
How old is Shirley ?? supposed to be.
In her early 50's I think?
Claudette taking pearl to get vincent to retaliate and go after phil is likely, she does seem to pull his strings
I agree that Jane's injuries from the fall are being focused on a suspicious amount. I did think maybe she had quite a serious injury that would have further repercussions, but she's been examined by doctors now so it seems that won't happen. It's probably all going to come out in a huge showdown on Christmas Day.
Good thinking peeps that Phil hasn't really kidnapped Pearl. It seems highly out of character, although his ordeal at Gavin's hands (the whole story of which I don't believe we know) could have changed him I suppose. :searchme:
It might turn out that Shabnam will have difficulty getting pregnant again, causing her to obsess about Jade and/or Stacey's baby.
Hopefully Linda's feeling better having confided in Mick about the eating disorder, which has led to its temporarily weakening its hold over her. It would be ridiculous writing if it's miraculously healed... :wall:
My money's on Kyle. If it had been Sean then why would he have given Stacey the key in the first place?
Well, looks like Stacey lucked out in avoiding telling Shabs the truth...again. Ever notice that when some characters are about to tell someone a shocking truth, something happens that stops it?
Normally I would agree, as Phil never struck me as the kidnapping type, however, he has changed a lot in the last months. Being kidnapped, dealing with the stress of it, and alcohol will do that to you. Actually, just the alcohol will do that. I've read and seen a lot of dramas about people dealing with drinking, and how they use it as an excuse to do a lot of bad things. Plus, this wouldn't be the first time. Remember the time when Phil was on drugs, and he ended up burning the Vic down? He turned against his own mom, burned down her home, and despite the whole place being up in flames, he still kept trying to steal the money out of the till. (I know drugs isn't alcohol, but it's still an addiction, the same as any other.) Personally, I doubt there's anything that Phil wouldn't do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I've been thinking up theories on the upcoming storyline with Phil's daughter Louise. Now, Phil is to be diagnosed with Cirrhosis of the Liver, and Louise is meant to be making an appearance early next year. I'm guessing the 2 stories will be connected somehow. I've looked up the disease, and some of the possible treatments is a transplant, which "involves removing a segment of liver from a healthy living donor and implanting it into a recipient. Both the donor and recipient liver segments will grow to normal size in a few weeks". Maybe Louise is a compatible donor, and she saves his life by donating part of her liver?
I like the theory of Louise being brought back as a liver donor, although I'm not sure a fourteen year old would be allowed to do so (we've been discussing on another thread that donating part of your liver is dangerous). She'd certainly need her mother's permission (and Lisa despises Phil).
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
if vincent is eric's son him or grant to donate to save phil, i would think an older person's liver would be better, nearer victim's age
Googled this and found:
Donors must be less than 55 years old, because the liver doesn't grow back as well in older people.
No doubt, older donors have been used successfully too though
But Sharon needs to be talking about how Bobby pushed Jane down the stairs and mentioning he killed Lucy so that Dennis can overhear ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
I thought we got to the stage where Bobby and denny both had new bikes for Xmas, and in trying to out do each other Denny has an accident (or Bobby causes one)
this is when Sharon goes mad and starts saying Bobby is a danger etc?
that could be when it comes to light?
denny tells bobby he killed lucy as he overhears
Isn't this a spoiler?Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
yes it is im sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
yes it is im sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
So, correct me if I'm wrong, a drunken Phil takes Pearl , gives her to Honey to look after , who appears to have accepted this event as perfectly OK ! Honey then hides Pearl behind a side screen. Leaves Pearl unattended whilst she watches the children on stage. Then to cap it all when confronted by Kim says "I know I'm not the best child minder in the world" :wall:
Secondly, what was all the whispering about whilst Martin was talking to Stacey , thought the sound had gone mute on the TV.
Honey was previously telling Billy not to have anything to do with the Mitchells but she takes baby Pearl from drunk Phil :thumbsdowQuote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
I really like this new Martin and poor him when he discovers the truth and I think Stacey does want Kush to tell Shabham despite her protests
Why is Linda trying to unite Mick and Shirley :nono:
Jade is a great well played by the actress
Is Shabham and Massods completely staying away from Jade
I too still don't understand why Linda is going overboard to bring Mick and Shirley together. Jade has been well casted . No recognition by Jade of Shabnam in the café. Can't blame Jade really.
They waved at each otherQuote:
Originally Posted by Glen1
Must have missed that bit, pleased they're keeping a good relationship.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
Best bit of tonight's episode was Jade, Shabnam and Phil. Steve McFadden is quite brilliant as an alcoholic and is also very funny. I was smiling when he was winding up Vincent. Richard Blackwood cannot play tough, he just make's me laugh out loud for all the wrong reasons, saying that an enjoyable episode, even with a pretty poor script and some dodgy acting.
It was an enjoyable episode. Mad, drunk Phil is always entertaining and Steve McFadden makes Phil's inhuman invincibility almost believable. His gleefulness had me in stitches, especially his "don't let the door bang on your way out" in reply to Sharon's umpteenth threat to leave. If she doesn't leave now she never will... :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
Jade's a real natural and I hope we see lots more of her.
Agreed Linda trying to mend Mick and Shirley's relationship is inexplicable, especially because Shirley's manner is as aggressive as ever towards her.
Martin's certainly changed in the year or so he's been back. He started off as an unreliable, laddish mess and is now the perfect partner and father. Just in time to wring every ounce of our sympathy for when he discovers the awful truth.
It was strange how Vincent appeared to believe Phil straight away about his father being alive. No matter how convincing he found Phil (who wasn't that convincing because he was too busy laughing :D), you'd think he'd at least question the assertion that his dad did a runner. After all, he's presumably had decades of Claudette bemoaning her husband's murder at the hands of Eric. Instead, he deflated like a balloon at the news. :hmm:
Considering he was promising his mom to kill Phil by the end of the next day, I'm not sure we should believe Vincent's seeming acceptance of Phil's story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Ronnie's due to make a decision of which family to back up tomorrow; the Mitchells or the Hubbards. Considering Phil is due to have a storyline involving his liver, I'm guessing Ronnie is gonna choose to stick with her family. Pity, as I would have enjoyed her finally realising what a no-hope Phil is, and teamed up with Vincent. Seriously, what's Phil got to do before people finally click on to what a scumbag he is??? I hope he gets his comeuppance.
I don't know, the fight totally went out of Vincent when Phil said his father had done a runner. Surely he would have protested if he didn't believe it? I took the promise to kill Phil as long-standing hatred exacerbated by Pearl's kidnap - and also probably because he can't stand the humiliation of being "owned" by a petty thug like Phil.Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
It also may be that he believed it at the time, but has now got his fight back and dismissed it as lies.
However, I might be completely wrong; I frequently am. :o
Phil will never completely get his comeuppance unless Steve decides to leave EE for good. Bully boy Phil Mitchell is too good value as a soap character we love to hate to keep down for long. Like him or loathe him, Phil nearly always manages to keep us glued to the screen. Plus, Steve can make Phil vulnerable and even compassionate when needed, so he's not a one dimensional panto villain. Although I dislike the character of Phil, I love watching him (and occasionally even find myself rooting for him despite myself :o).Quote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
Saying that, he is supposed to have suffered horribly at the hands of Gavin, which is why he's such a mess now. I see his his reckless taunting of Vincent as that of a man who feels he has nothing left to lose - which means he's broken inside.
Sharon certainly saw him for the thug he is tonight, but sadly she's become his doormat. I'd love to see Sharon permanently gain the upper hand in their relationship!
Yeah, I guess. I do admit that I like watching him, too. Still, he is due to have that liver thing in a few weeks time, so I guess that will have to do as comeuppance for now. It might be especially traumatic for Phil, as he's a man used to getting his own way and beating everyone to get it. But the liver thing, that's not something his fists can help him with. When a person gets sick, it's like they're betrayed by their own body, and they feel helpless and weak. For a man like Phil, that sounds like a fate worse than death. And the fact that he caused it with his drinking, he'll have no one to blame except himself (except maybe Gavin).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Ugh, don't talk to me about Sharon. I'm sick to death of her. She said so herself that Gavin was scum, and he's the main reason why Phil is the way he is, yet she still helped him and even gave him money to boot! Phil's drinking is totally out of control, and she's been through it herself with her mom, yet instead of giving him help or turning her back on him for the sake of her son, she has a drink with him! He kidnapped a baby, threatened Vincent and Kim, and she's still with him! It's like you said; she's a complete and utter doormat!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
jay knew what to say to get round phil, build him up as the big man
It'll be interesting to see if what's coming up for Phil permanently changes him. For those who haven't been watching EE that long, Phil hasn't always been as nasty as he is now. In fact, out of the two Mitchell brothers, he was the nicer one and Grant the thug.
Yes, I was impressed with the way Jay handled Phil.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I thought that Grants temper and recurrentQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
nighmares were put down to War Service.
I remember Arfurs expression when they first
revved their way into the Square. I thought he
was going to collapse with shock!!i
Phil certainly looked different when he had hair-
in the early days. I did post a few weeks ago about
Phil looking " romantic":heart: on the banks of the
Seine wthen he first got together with Kathy. But
no sure if that was with or without hair!:hmm:
It would be good &ironic -if Jay wss the one who
brought Phil to some normality.
Still mulling over the unknown part of Gavins
plans/mind games for Phil!
fatboy signing his own death warrant
dupl
Oh dear- missed that!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
oh mick what a gent and friend naming his goose after ian's murdered daughter lucy
So Bobby's graduated to torturing animals. There can no longer be any doubt that he's a stone cold psychopath (in the true sense of the word) and not just a boy with serious anger management problems. :eek:
Poor spider... :(
Just what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
Spoiler:
I think Mick was probably calling her "Goosey Loosey", who's a character from a children's story. It has rather a tragic end as Goosey Loosey and friends end up being eaten by a fox! It's scarred me for life! :crying:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
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