Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[Dazzle]

Considering he was promising his mom to kill Phil by the end of the next day, I'm not sure we should believe Vincent's seeming acceptance of Phil's story.

I don't know, the fight totally went out of Vincent when Phil said his father had done a runner. Surely he would have protested if he didn't believe it? I took the promise to kill Phil as long-standing hatred exacerbated by Pearl's kidnap - and also probably because he can't stand the humiliation of being "owned" by a petty thug like Phil.

It also may be that he believed it at the time, but has now got his fight back and dismissed it as lies.

However, I might be completely wrong; I frequently am.

Seriously, what's Phil got to do before people finally click on to what a scumbag he is??? I hope he gets his comeuppance.

Phil will never completely get his comeuppance unless Steve decides to leave EE for good. Bully boy Phil Mitchell is too good value as a soap character we love to hate to keep down for long. Like him or loathe him, Phil nearly always manages to keep us glued to the screen. Plus, Steve can make Phil vulnerable and even compassionate when needed, so he's not a one dimensional panto villain. Although I dislike the character of Phil, I love watching him (and occasionally even find myself rooting for him despite myself ).

Saying that, he is supposed to have suffered horribly at the hands of Gavin, which is why he's such a mess now. I see his his reckless taunting of Vincent as that of a man who feels he has nothing left to lose - which means he's broken inside.

Sharon certainly saw him for the thug he is tonight, but sadly she's become his doormat. I'd love to see Sharon permanently gain the upper hand in their relationship!

[storyseeker1]

Phil will never completely get his comeuppance unless Steve decides to leave EE for good. Bully boy Phil Mitchell is too good value as a soap character we love to hate to keep down for long. Like him or loathe him, Phil nearly always manages to keep us glued to the screen. Plus, Steve can make Phil vulnerable and even compassionate when needed, so he's not a one dimensional panto villain. Although I dislike the character of Phil, I love watching him (and occasionally even find myself rooting for him despite myself ).

Yeah, I guess. I do admit that I like watching him, too. Still, he is due to have that liver thing in a few weeks time, so I guess that will have to do as comeuppance for now. It might be especially traumatic for Phil, as he's a man used to getting his own way and beating everyone to get it. But the liver thing, that's not something his fists can help him with. When a person gets sick, it's like they're betrayed by their own body, and they feel helpless and weak. For a man like Phil, that sounds like a fate worse than death. And the fact that he caused it with his drinking, he'll have no one to blame except himself (except maybe Gavin).

Sharon certainly saw him for the thug he is tonight, but sadly she's become his doormat. I'd love to see Sharon permanently gain the upper hand in their relationship!

Ugh, don't talk to me about Sharon. I'm sick to death of her. She said so herself that Gavin was scum, and he's the main reason why Phil is the way he is, yet she still helped him and even gave him money to boot! Phil's drinking is totally out of control, and she's been through it herself with her mom, yet instead of giving him help or turning her back on him for the sake of her son, she has a drink with him! He kidnapped a baby, threatened Vincent and Kim, and she's still with him! It's like you said; she's a complete and utter doormat!

[lizann]

jay knew what to say to get round phil, build him up as the big man

[Dazzle]

It'll be interesting to see if what's coming up for Phil permanently changes him. For those who haven't been watching EE that long, Phil hasn't always been as nasty as he is now. In fact, out of the two Mitchell brothers, he was the nicer one and Grant the thug.

jay knew what to say to get round phil, build him up as the big man

Yes, I was impressed with the way Jay handled Phil.

[maidmarian]

It'll be interesting to see if what's coming up for Phil permanently changes him. For those who haven't been watching EE that long, Phil hasn't always been as nasty as he is now. In fact, out of the two Mitchell brothers, he was the nicer one and Grant the thug.



Yes, I was impressed with the way Jay handled Phil.

I thought that Grants temper and recurrent
nighmares were put down to War Service.

I remember Arfurs expression when they first
revved their way into the Square. I thought he
was going to collapse with shock!!i

Phil certainly looked different when he had hair-
in the early days. I did post a few weeks ago about
Phil looking " romantic" on the banks of the
Seine wthen he first got together with Kathy. But
no sure if that was with or without hair!

It would be good &ironic -if Jay wss the one who
brought Phil to some normality.

Still mulling over the unknown part of Gavins
plans/mind games for Phil!

[lizann]

fatboy signing his own death warrant

[maidmarian]

dupl

[maidmarian]

fatboy signing his own death warrant

Oh dear- missed that!!

[lizann]

oh mick what a gent and friend naming his goose after ian's murdered daughter lucy

[Dazzle]

So Bobby's graduated to torturing animals. There can no longer be any doubt that he's a stone cold psychopath (in the true sense of the word) and not just a boy with serious anger management problems.

Poor spider...

fatboy signing his own death warrant

Just what I was thinking.

Spoiler:

If he's going to be the death on Christmas Day (which is looking a distinct possibility), why announce the actor's leaving? On the other hand, it could be a well thought out red herring.

oh mick what a gent and friend naming his goose after ian's murdered daughter lucy

I think Mick was probably calling her "Goosey Loosey", who's a character from a children's story. It has rather a tragic end as Goosey Loosey and friends end up being eaten by a fox! It's scarred me for life!

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