I wonder then if Andy is in fact Gareth? Interesting stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
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I wonder then if Andy is in fact Gareth? Interesting stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rear window
I think Barbara as a big Carry On acting star joining the soap was a very deal at the time when she started playing PeggyQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
The Mitchell family are such an synonymous family with the show and being the matriarch and also pub landlady for a long time she is going to get a big send off
I am enjoying her "last orders" send off as so far some great emotional scenes very well acted
im still hoping for a peg slap on claudette, is there a showdown between them before she dies which is next tuesday that peg dies
She did do a line that was so 'carry on' I nearly turned the telly off.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
jay the forgotten mitchell no love for him for peg
I thought Monday's episode was excellent. It was just as much about Phil as Peggy, so I hope viewers who dislike the latter still enjoyed it. The mother and her two boys are reunited at last and I can't wait for their scenes tomorrow.
I am wondering whether Phil and Peggy are really discussing her suicide? Their words have been written very carefully to make it sound like that without being specific. Still,
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I thoroughly enjoyed Ian and Phil's, and Peggy and Stacey's chats.
A nice mention of Pauline in tonight's episode, good scenes with Phil and Peggy. I think it may be too late to try and make Ian likeable again, it does not wash with me sorry. Ian and Jane are ruined characters. Liked the look Peggy gave Claudette. It was as though Peggy had trod in something smelly.
Grants entrance was a bit of an anti climax and that Duff Duff at the end seemed to go on for ever with the camera zooming onto Ross Kemps face.
I couldn't agree more. I just think they are both despicable and cringe every time they come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by flappinfanny
was claudette not in hiding from vincent?
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Originally Posted by flappinfanny
I disagree. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Ian and Jane have done a terrible thing and must pay for it (I suspect Jane will go (one way or another) leaving Ian bereft - plus he's likely to lose Bobby for the foreseeable future), but at least they did what they did out of love. Compare that to a character like Phil who hurts everyone around him because he takes pleasure in it. He's also just as guilty of covering for Bobby (as are others), so I don't think Ian and Jane come off too badly in comparison.
I believe Ian can be redeemed when he's lost everything as a consequence of the cover up (which of course includes allowing Max to go to prison). Today's scene between Ian and Phil proved to me that even the most unlikable characters can be compelling. It really depends if the acting and writing is good enough to elicit the audience's sympathy. I find Phil the most detestable character currently in EE but Steve McFadden is able to make me sympathise with Phil's current predicament almost against my wishes.
I certainly don't condone Ian and Jane's crimes and wouldn't associate with them in real life (and wouldn't hesitate in turning them in), but as soap characters I can still enjoy watching them. I must admit that wasn't the case earlier in the year when they conspired to send Max down but, unlike in real life, we can be fairly certain all this will come out sooner or later and there'll be serious repercussions for them.
I'm always aware of the ticking time bomb when I watch them which adds tension to their scenes. I do think the whole storyline could (and should) have been written much better and in a way that we could sympathise more with their desperate predicament. I just hope the denouement to this tale is handled more skilfully.