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instinct
17-01-2007, 14:42
I hope so because I hate Sonia, she's not capable of looking after a child, think about it, she was part time lesbian, got pregnant and did not even know it in the first place, murderer, kidnapper, drunk, violent, abusive, fugitive and thinks she's gods gift to earth, she can't even look after herself let alone someone else.
What can Sonia offer her while being on the run, Martin on the other hand could at least offer her some stability, but Martin is a little stupid for letting her back in his life after all she has done to him, Pauline did warn him several times.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
Sonia is not a murderer.. she has a warrant out for her arrest but it doesn't make her a murderer.... Martin, unless you have forgotten, has been to prison twice. One for the school break in and then for killing Jamie. Sonia only turned to drink cause she was stopped from seen her own daughter. She is a good mum to her and does her best by her. Granted, she can't offer her much when on the run but I dont' think Martin can offer her much more.. I know Sonia would never turn Rebecca against Martin but I am sure he would turn her against Sonia.
Sonia also has a lot of family, Martin only had Shell left in US and Ian. Sonia has her mum, brothers and sisters and if found not guilty has her grandfather in the square.
Sonia is not a murderer.. she has a warrant out for her arrest but it doesn't make her a murderer.... Martin, unless you have forgotten, has been to prison twice. One for the school break in and then for killing Jamie. Sonia only turned to drink cause she was stopped from seen her own daughter. She is a good mum to her and does her best by her. Granted, she can't offer her much when on the run but I dont' think Martin can offer her much more.. I know Sonia would never turn Rebecca against Martin but I am sure he would turn her against Sonia.
Sonia also has a lot of family, Martin only had Shell left in US and Ian. Sonia has her mum, brothers and sisters and if found not guilty has her grandfather in the square.
I could not agree cos Martin can sooo be like his mum, I think there is no doubt about it that sonia deserves to be with Rebecca
Dr. Tangliss
18-01-2007, 09:42
According to Reveal, Martin does get her back on Friday 25th, Rebecca watches as Sonia is carted off by the police
Footie_Chick
18-01-2007, 10:37
Yeah after the phone call Phil makes to her whilst trying to get ben back from Martin, Sonia realises she has to come and hand herself in but before she gets chance to do that Martin rings the police and they cart her off.
i feel sorry for rebecca, being stuck in the middle of all this
Sonia is not a murderer.. she has a warrant out for her arrest but it doesn't make her a murderer.... Martin, unless you have forgotten, has been to prison twice. One for the school break in and then for killing Jamie. Sonia only turned to drink cause she was stopped from seen her own daughter. She is a good mum to her and does her best by her. Granted, she can't offer her much when on the run but I dont' think Martin can offer her much more.. I know Sonia would never turn Rebecca against Martin but I am sure he would turn her against Sonia.
Sonia also has a lot of family, Martin only had Shell left in US and Ian. Sonia has her mum, brothers and sisters and if found not guilty has her grandfather in the square.
Exactly, but also Martin was the one who took advantage of the fact that Sonia was extremely upset and a little drunk when he got her pregnant. That was because her mum had left her at 14 to look after her grandfather and daft brother! So she didn't know she was pregnant - it happens.
As for her being a part time lesbian. Martin and Pauline drove her out of that house. Martin was a boring man with no interests other than the pub, watching tv and his mother. Sonia was so unhappy, she left for another woman when we know she isn't a lesbian.
Sonia isn't violent or abusive either. So she slapped Pauline which she regretted immediately. It was long overdue and wasn't as hard a slap as the one Pauline gave her at 15 because Martin lied over being Rebecca's father.
Martin has blackmailed people (Kareena), he has allowed someone else to take the blame for his pot growing (Derek), has killed someone because he was using a mobile while he was driving (Jamie) and allowed a stalker to befriend his wife and hold her at knife point.
And now he is going to turn Sonia in to the police despite her saying she is back because she wants to hand herself in and prove her innocence. All Sonia wants to do is explain it to Rebecca and say goodbye, but he doesn't think of the child watching her mother being dragged off in handcuffs. Martin was supposed to love Sonia but he has put his mother first yet again. How he can say he ever loved Sonia and believe that she is capable of murder is amazing. He turned against her immediately, refusing to listen to her pleas of innocence. He has made Rebecca scared of her own mother instead of trying to talk to the child. That poor kid is going to be scarred for life.
Martin doesn't deserve Rebecca or Sonia.
instinct
18-01-2007, 14:02
Sonia is not a murderer.. she has a warrant out for her arrest but it doesn't make her a murderer.... Martin, unless you have forgotten, has been to prison twice. One for the school break in and then for killing Jamie. Sonia only turned to drink cause she was stopped from seen her own daughter. She is a good mum to her and does her best by her. Granted, she can't offer her much when on the run but I dont' think Martin can offer her much more.. I know Sonia would never turn Rebecca against Martin but I am sure he would turn her against Sonia.
Sonia also has a lot of family, Martin only had Shell left in US and Ian. Sonia has her mum, brothers and sisters and if found not guilty has her grandfather in the square.
Exactly, but also Martin was the one who took advantage of the fact that Sonia was extremely upset and a little drunk when he got her pregnant. That was because her mum had left her at 14 to look after her grandfather and daft brother! So she didn't know she was pregnant - it happens.
As for her being a part time lesbian. Martin and Pauline drove her out of that house. Martin was a boring man with no interests other than the pub, watching tv and his mother. Sonia was so unhappy, she left for another woman when we know she isn't a lesbian.
Sonia isn't violent or abusive either. So she slapped Pauline which she regretted immediately. It was long overdue and wasn't as hard a slap as the one Pauline gave her at 15 because Martin lied over being Rebecca's father.
Martin has blackmailed people (Kareena), he has allowed someone else to take the blame for his pot growing (Derek), has killed someone because he was using a mobile while he was driving (Jamie) and allowed a stalker to befriend his wife and hold her at knife point.
And now he is going to turn Sonia in to the police despite her saying she is back because she wants to hand herself in and prove her innocence. All Sonia wants to do is explain it to Rebecca and say goodbye, but he doesn't think of the child watching her mother being dragged off in handcuffs. Martin was supposed to love Sonia but he has put his mother first yet again. How he can say he ever loved Sonia and believe that she is capable of murder is amazing. He turned against her immediately, refusing to listen to her pleas of innocence. He has made Rebecca scared of her own mother instead of trying to talk to the child. That poor kid is going to be scarred for life.
Martin doesn't deserve Rebecca or Sonia.
If she slapped my mom and then she just died I would be kind of suspicious wouldn't you? Also she should have handed herself in, in the first place instead of commiting a further 2 crimes (kidnapping and a being fugitive)
and Rebecca was already scared of Sonia we all saw her speaking to Dot about it and moving away from her and who wouldn't be she shouted at her calling her a stupid girl, why would she do all that if she was innocent.
Yes Martin is boring and so was his mother but to become a lesbian when like you say we know she isn't is just stupid there's better ways to deal with a situation like that and for Sonia to deal with it like that shows how immature she is.
What is she going to do when Rebecca is a teenager and doesn't listen to her or whatever is she going to put her up for adoption again?
parkerman
18-01-2007, 17:34
I hope so because I hate Sonia, she's not capable of looking after a child, think about it, she was part time lesbian
And just how does that stop her being a good mother?
got pregnant
It takes two to do that. Does that make Martin incapable of looking after Rebecca too?
murderer er, no
kidnapper Her own child who willingly went with her
drunk
Not any more
violent
One little slap after having her own mother insulted.
abusive
Ditto
fugitive
A very reluctant one who will soon realise that running away is wrong
and thinks she's gods gift to earth, she can't even look after herself let alone someone else.
She's had to look after herself for long enough since her mother left her to cope more or less on her own.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
See above
According to Reveal, Martin does get her back on Friday 25th, Rebecca watches as Sonia is carted off by the police
Awww poor rebecca, it muxt be really tough for her, she hasnt really know that they are her real parents for long
instinct
18-01-2007, 22:55
I hope so because I hate Sonia, she's not capable of looking after a child, think about it, she was part time lesbian
And just how does that stop her being a good mother?
got pregnant
It takes two to do that. Does that make Martin incapable of looking after Rebecca too?
murderer er, no
kidnapper Her own child who willingly went with her
drunk
Not any more
violent
One little slap after having her own mother insulted.
abusive
Ditto
fugitive
A very reluctant one who will soon realise that running away is wrong
and thinks she's gods gift to earth, she can't even look after herself let alone someone else.
She's had to look after herself for long enough since her mother left her to cope more or less on her own.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
See above
- For being a lesbian she could always go back to her ways and carry on confusing Rebbeca
- Sonia let Martin get her pregnant which makes her stupid
- As far as we know murderer? er yes!
- Even though her child went willingly with her it still makes it kidnapping because Rebbeca is in Martins custody, simple as that
- Yea not a drunk now but for how long can she keep clean when everything goes downhill for her again
- Violent? yes when she doesn't get her own way, remember she did slap Martin really hard and made him bleed
- Abusive? again yes she threatened Rebbeca to keep quiet beacuse she knew she was guilty
- Doesn't matter if she saw the error of her ways she is still a fugitive
- And you say she had to look after herself when her mother left her alone well she didn't do a very good job did she
- You tried to break my argument down but failed but I think I successfully broke down yours
I hope so because I hate Sonia, she's not capable of looking after a child, think about it, she was part time lesbian
And just how does that stop her being a good mother?
got pregnant
It takes two to do that. Does that make Martin incapable of looking after Rebecca too?
murderer er, no
kidnapper Her own child who willingly went with her
drunk
Not any more
violent
One little slap after having her own mother insulted.
abusive
Ditto
fugitive
A very reluctant one who will soon realise that running away is wrong
and thinks she's gods gift to earth, she can't even look after herself let alone someone else.
She's had to look after herself for long enough since her mother left her to cope more or less on her own.
Can anyone shed some light on this?
See above
- For being a lesbian she could always go back to her ways and carry on confusing Rebbeca
- Sonia let Martin get her pregnant which makes her stupid
- As far as we know murderer? er yes!
- Even though her child went willingly with her it still makes it kidnapping because Rebbeca is in Martins custody, simple as that
- Yea not a drunk now but for how long can she keep clean when everything goes downhill for her again
- Violent? yes when she doesn't get her own way, remember she did slap Martin really hard and made him bleed
- Abusive? again yes she threatened Rebbeca to keep quiet beacuse she knew she was guilty
- Doesn't matter if she saw the error of her ways she is still a fugitive
- And you say she had to look after herself when her mother left her alone well she didn't do a very good job did she
- You tried to break my argument down but failed but I think I successfully broke down yoursIf you ask me neither of them are fit to look after Rebecca. Anyway since when did being a Lesbian make you unfit to look after a kid which you carried for nine months
- For being a lesbian she could always go back to her ways and carry on confusing Rebbeca
- Sonia let Martin get her pregnant which makes her stupid
I can't believe you wrote these two statements. Been lesbian does not make you a bad parent!! She is not abusive to Rebecca and her sexuality should have absolutely nothing to do with. You will probably say "she yelled at rebecca and called her stupid, that is abusive", maybe but parent do that sometimes, yell at their kids... does that make us all bad parents.. Sonia doesn't yell at her all the time..
She LET martin get her pregnant.. how do you let someone get you pregnant unless you are trying for a child.. There is a pair of them in it.. they both should have thought about contraception and it is both their faults... so it make both of them stupid!!
Martin has done so much worse than Sonia and yet you say he would make the better parent??? Remember, Martin was the one that didn't even want to know the baby when she was born.. it was pauline who wanted to go to court.. Even when Sonia made contact with her again, Martin was unwilling to go.
Alan is right.. maybe neither of them should have the child!!!
If you ask me neither of them are fit to look after Rebecca. Anyway since when did being a Lesbian make you unfit to look after a kid which you carried for nine months
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Thank you Alan - I know of a couple of people who have been married, had children and are now in a lesbian relationship - does that mean they should lose all contact with that parent? Being lesbian or confused doesn't make someone incapable of being a parent.
I would also like to say, Sonia let Martin get her pregnant?? :hmm: So does mean that Little Mo allowed Graham to get her pregnant aswell then?? Sonia and Martin had a drunken one night stand and unfortunately Sonia fell pregnant. She didn't let Martin make her pregnant, she was niave and immature at the time and so was Martin so why does Sonia falling pregnant be her fault?
If you ask me neither of them are fit to look after Rebecca. Anyway since when did being a Lesbian make you unfit to look after a kid which you carried for nine months
:clap:
Thank you Alan - I know of a couple of people who have been married, had children and are now in a lesbian relationship - does that mean they should lose all contact with that parent? Being lesbian or confused doesn't make someone incapable of being a parent.
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I have a friend who after many years of happy marriage admitted he was a homosexual. He set up home with another guy. I have yet to meet as devoted and caring a father as him. He does not let his sexuality come in the way of his love for his family.
We could look at the other side of the coin. I know a hell of a lot of heterosexuals who are terrible and abusive parents
I have a friend who after many years of happy marriage admitted he was a homosexual. He set up home with another guy. I have yet to meet as devoted and caring a father as him. He does not let his sexuality come in the way of his love for his family.
We could look at the other side of the coin. I know a hell of a lot of heterosexuals who are terrible and abusive parents
Exactly Alan.
And look at the two guys that went through with surrogacy in order to have children together - they were so devoted, loving and caring for those girls, that no one could have doubted their abilities as parents...
There are far too many bigoted views about the type of people in our society - they're gay so they must be crap parents, they're straight so they are bound to be great parents - I've never known so much tosh in all my life.
Actually, just out of curiousity, have you heard of any cases of Gay couples abusing children? I have never heard of any (not saying there is none) but in a way gay couples teach kids tolerance for other lifestyles
Actually, just out of curiousity, have you heard of any cases of Gay couples abusing children? I have never heard of any (not saying there is none) but in a way gay couples teach kids tolerance for other lifestyles
I've not heard of any either and I'm sure if there were some, they would be highly publicised if they got out, to try and ignite the gays shouldn't have children theory! There could be some that haven't been publicised, but no doubt the rate is far far lower than that for heterosexual couples.
I think they make great parents - like you say, teach tolerance for all people in all situations and lifestyles.
Actually, just out of curiousity, have you heard of any cases of Gay couples abusing children? I have never heard of any (not saying there is none) but in a way gay couples teach kids tolerance for other lifestyles
I never heard of gay couple abusing children, so that agrument for sonia being an uncaple mother has gone out of the window
instinct
20-01-2007, 02:00
I'm not saying gay people make bad parents my argument simply states that Sonia would make a bad parent, and I know yelling at your kids sometimes is part of parenting but yelling at your child when you are clearly wrong is a different matter.
Yeah we know Martin has never really wanted his daughter but that was because he wasn't thinking right but when he got to know her he realised how much he loved her and would even take Phil Mitchell on to keep her.
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
If you were married to Martin the Moron and had an interfering cow of a mother in law Im sure you would have mood swings too
Martin does get Rebecca back. When Martin is on the bridge with Phil and Ben, he makes Phil call Sonia and then gets to the phone, but she hangs up on him. Martin says he will hurt Ben if Phil calls the police, then gives him back. Sonia returns, intending to take Rebecca back and then turn herself in, but Martin calls the police and Sonia is arrested.
From The TV Mag.
I think Phil should have just called the police anyway. I mean, he's hardly going to be able to do anything to Ben whilst he's banged up, and having kidnapped one person and killed another one, no one would let him near a child ever again. He's hardly going to get hired help, and anyway, if he did, Phil could easily protect Ben.
I take it that Rebecca wanted Sonia to take her back, so she'd just have to do her time, or she'd never see her again. Or, Sonia realised it was no life for a child, so she'd have to do her time in order to get to see Rebecca. Rebecca looked pretty sad in a picture, so it's more likely to be down to Sonia.
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Also known as PMT!!!!
Sorry Instinct, but I have major mood swings and I think any female that suffers from PMT also gets them - there's sweet fa we can do about that! Does that mean my 3 children are at risk - no! My 3 children are the most loved, cuddled children, my eldest still hugs, kisses and tells me he loves me in front of his mates, so I must be doing something right!
Is this the start of the exiting storyline for Sonia, Martin and Rebecca does anyone know?
Is this the start of the exiting storyline for Sonia, Martin and Rebecca does anyone know?
I guess, because I read that the "Who killed Pauline," storyline wasn't over with yet. There's not really any reason for Martin to leave as he is, because he's devastated over the loss of his mother and wants to hold on to the house, stall, sqare etc, so something must happen to get him back with Sonia, then there'd be a lot of gossipping about them, so it could lead them to leave the square.
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Also known as PMT!!!!
I was going to say that but was afraid of getting attacked by all you lovely ladies:)
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Also known as PMT!!!!
I was going to say that but was afraid of getting attacked by all you lovely ladies:)
Lol Alan - we'd never attack you!!!
There's only 12 weeks of the year we might do that...... :D :rotfl:
instinct
21-01-2007, 23:21
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Also known as PMT!!!!
Sorry Instinct, but I have major mood swings and I think any female that suffers from PMT also gets them - there's sweet fa we can do about that! Does that mean my 3 children are at risk - no! My 3 children are the most loved, cuddled children, my eldest still hugs, kisses and tells me he loves me in front of his mates, so I must be doing something right!
Is this the start of the exiting storyline for Sonia, Martin and Rebecca does anyone know?
Sonia is like 21
Sonia is like 21And your point is??????:confused:
Sonia is like 21
Which means nothing!!
Any female once starting their periods can suffer from pmt - from any age! Being 21 makes no difference to whether or not she or anyone else suffers from pmt...
Sonia is like 21
Which means nothing!!
Any female once starting their periods can suffer from pmt - from any age! Being 21 makes no difference to whether or not she or anyone else suffers from pmt...
I am 35 and have my major pout so PMT and with a mother in law like Pauline, I think it would be worse :rotfl::rotfl:
parkerman
22-01-2007, 11:03
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Also known as PMT!!!!
Sorry Instinct, but I have major mood swings and I think any female that suffers from PMT also gets them - there's sweet fa we can do about that! Does that mean my 3 children are at risk - no! My 3 children are the most loved, cuddled children, my eldest still hugs, kisses and tells me he loves me in front of his mates, so I must be doing something right!
Is this the start of the exiting storyline for Sonia, Martin and Rebecca does anyone know?
Sonia is like 21
Well spotted instinct. Nothing gets past you. :confused:
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Also known as PMT!!!!
Sorry Instinct, but I have major mood swings and I think any female that suffers from PMT also gets them - there's sweet fa we can do about that! Does that mean my 3 children are at risk - no! My 3 children are the most loved, cuddled children, my eldest still hugs, kisses and tells me he loves me in front of his mates, so I must be doing something right!
Is this the start of the exiting storyline for Sonia, Martin and Rebecca does anyone know?
Sonia is like 21
Well spotted instinct. Nothing gets past you. :confused:
Isn't martin younger than Sonia??? (only by a few months) so that blows your arguement out of the water Instinct
instinct
22-01-2007, 12:19
Sonias attitudes are all over the place one day she is nice the next day she is scary, she has some major mood swings and can be directed at anyone and everyone and that is a concern when children are concerned.
Also known as PMT!!!!
Sorry Instinct, but I have major mood swings and I think any female that suffers from PMT also gets them - there's sweet fa we can do about that! Does that mean my 3 children are at risk - no! My 3 children are the most loved, cuddled children, my eldest still hugs, kisses and tells me he loves me in front of his mates, so I must be doing something right!
Is this the start of the exiting storyline for Sonia, Martin and Rebecca does anyone know?
Sonia is like 21
Well spotted instinct. Nothing gets past you. :confused:
Thank you I like to be appreciated :)
Kevin O Sullivan sums it up
IT'S only February. But al ready we have an unbeatable contender for the funniest show of the year award.
And the honours will surely go to... EastEnders and TV's most ridiculous couple Martin and Sonia.
I believe the disastrous duo's emotional farewell to Walford was supposed to be powerfully poignant.
But - lost in a swirling mass of crass over-acting, dismal dialogue and illogical plot twists - this ludicrous long goodbye was more like slapstick comedy.
"You couldn't make your mind up whether you wanted to play your trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian," screamed Martin.
Ahh... the old trumpet-lesbian dilemma. Always a tricky one. As the volcanic fury of the gruesome twosome's raging row escalated at an alarming rate, sophisticated Sonia's rapier-like response was devastatingly brilliant.
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"Get stuffed," she wailed. To say theirs was a rollercoaster romance would be the understatement of the century.
Mr and Mrs Loonytunes have been through more highs and lows than a kangaroo on crack. On and on their cacophonous closing argument went. All week - night after deafening night.
Until, with one final flurry of hilarious histrionics, moron Martin and soppy Sonia at long last put themselves out of our misery.
Weeping, screaming, fighting - EastEnders' sorry answer to Romeo and Juliet checked out with all the irritatingly OTT melodrama we've come to expect.
At first Sonia was determined to leave home alone. Then Martin hit upon the previously unexplored solution of grabbing their daughter Rebecca (played by the world's worst child actor), sitting in the road and declaring: "We're coming wivyer!"
They left - as everyone always does - in the back of a very slow taxi. These tear-stained exits are never going to be particularly memorable until they raise Albert Square's three-miles-anhour speed limit.
But back to our heroes. The week began as Sonia inexplicably ditched two years of obsessive motherhood and decided to suddenly abandon her confused daughter for a glittering new life in marvellous Manchester. Unbelievable!
Sod Rebecca, she's off to stay with her sister Bianca.
"I'll always love you," sobbed Sonia, neglecting to add, "... that's why I'm *******ing off and dumping you."
After spending a comically turbulent month trying to get back together with the man of her nightmares, moon-faced Sonia staged a startling U-turn and blamed herself for absolutely everything.
"I'm no good for you," she cried as Martin looked on in dismay, "I hurt you every single time. I betrayed Phil and Jane. I've made my own daughter lie for me. I've kidnapped her..."
Sonia did have a point...
At first barrow boy Martin was reluctant to follow his former part-time lesbian, never-go-to work nurse of an ex-wife.
He'd just inherited a halfshare of his dead mother's charred wreck of a horrid hovel - it's hard to walk away from such a magnificent property.
"It's not just a house," roared Martin. "It's a part of me."
But now he's off to pastures new, Pauline's mummy's boy son should be able to sell the family mansion for at least 25 quid. If he's lucky!
It wasn't Martin and Sonia's fault they ended their Walford days as laugh-out-loud figures of fun. Blame the scriptwriters - who put the poor saps through so many hoops they were turned into hopelessly implausible certifiable lunatics.
In a catastrophic crime against characterisation, Sonia's absurd bout of lesbianism ruined her forever. While Martin's dizzying series of total personality changes made him such a crazed chameleon that long-suffering viewers never knew what to expect.
In the end they signed off in appropriately puerile fashion. "I really love you," simpered Martin. "I really love you too," replied Sonia, showcasing her trademark original thinking.
Anyway, sing it from the roof tops, put out the bunting and throw a street party - Punch and Judy have gone!
And with a bit of luck they will never, ever be back.
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