Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

**lizann** · 12-02-2016, 20:00

is jj really jordan's son or libby or chelsea so really is denise grandson

**Rear window** · 12-02-2016, 22:14

What a vile thing to do to anyone in public like that. horrid Babs and Horrid Abi.

**storyseeker1** · 12-02-2016, 22:58

I'm actually not sure what to think of Babe in tonight's ep. I thought maybe this was just some plan of hers to get in good with someone, like her other plans have been, but now I'm not so sure. I know Babe has issues with her sister Sylvie, who used to belittle her when they were growing up and generally make her life hell, and I got the feeling that was what was implied tonight. Judging by the way Babe was talking to Abi, it sounded more like Babe was talking about her own experience and letting her own emotions and past-pain control her. So much so that she's letting them override her common sense about Ben.

And everything I believed about Abi seems to have been confirmed tonight; her talking about being second-best and everything. She's just so desperate to be loved that she's blinding herself to the truth about Ben.

I find it harder to believe that Abi really is pregnant now. I mean it's just too damn coincidental that she ends up in the club while all this stuff with Ben is happening. I know she's due to go to the doctors, but then again Babe probably has contacts anywhere due to her time when she was selling babies. so she's probably arranged it all.

Loved all the parts with Jordan and JJ. JJ is just sooo cute! I hope Vincent can help get rid of Jordan's debt. I heard that Denise actually suggests at some point to Jordan for him to go visit Lucas. (And Kim was worried Jordan would be the one to bring Lucas back into their lives???)

**flappinfanny** · 13-02-2016, 00:04

I have never wanted to smack anybody so much as Witless (apart from Rob from the Archers) I hope Nancy smacks her one. Poor Buster.

I was horrified at what Kim had done to the lovely Pearl, it made me feel sick. Disgusting. The Hubbard's/Fox's/Trueman's make a nice family unit. DTC/Lamb don't ruin it!

The duff duff was very cringe worthy but I did enjoy it.

**flappinfanny** · 13-02-2016, 00:07

Abi better watch out, if she was PG , Babe would see pound signs.

Actually it would be funny if Abi did turn out to be up the duff, it would serve her right.

**Dazzle** · 13-02-2016, 00:36

Originally Posted by storyseeker1

I'm actually not sure what to think of Babe in tonight's ep.

I think Babe enjoys stirring and manipulating people. Also, she seems to be living vicariously through Abi by having her "win" Ben back because she regrets not trying to do so with Stan. Plus she sees herself in Abi and sympathises to a degree. I'd be surprised if Babe truly cares about Abi or her relationship with Ben though.

Originally Posted by storyseeker1

And everything I believed about Abi seems to have been confirmed tonight; her talking about being second-best and everything. She's just so desperate to be loved that she's blinding herself to the truth about Ben.

I think she's past the point of being blind to the truth about Ben. She acknowledged it tonight to Babe yet still wants him as much as ever. She really is pathetically desperate for a family. This is what Max and Tanya have done to her!

Originally Posted by storyseeker1

I find it harder to believe that Abi really is pregnant now. I mean it's just too damn coincidental that she ends up in the club while all this stuff with Ben is happening. I know she's due to go to the doctors, but then again Babe probably has contacts anywhere due to her time when she was selling babies. so she's probably arranged it all.

I don't think Abi's pregnant. As you say, it's waaay too convenient plus there wasn't a hint of a pregnancy before the big announcement.

I believe if you go to a GP and tell them you've taken a pregnancy test and that it's positive, they just take your word for it and refer you to the local ante-natal department. If that is the case, she wouldn't be found out until she has any tests or scans. I suppose her long term plan must be to try and get pregnant in the meantime, or perhaps to "lose" the baby when she can no longer fake it? Anything to keep hold of Ben for a bit longer...

Originally Posted by storyseeker1

Loved all the parts with Jordan and JJ. JJ is just sooo cute! I hope Vincent can help get rid of Jordan's debt. I heard that Denise actually suggests at some point to Jordan for him to go visit Lucas. (And Kim was worried Jordan would be the one to bring Lucas back into their lives???)

Jordan and JJ living with Denise and Patrick as a family seems to have happened too easily and quickly. No doubt there's more strife to come; you're probably right that it'll be something to do with Lucas and/or the legacy of his crimes.

I wonder if Vincent could be in for trouble from the gang to whom Jordan owes money?

**Dazzle** · 13-02-2016, 00:48

Anyone else wondering if Linzi's too young for Jay?

Originally Posted by flappinfanny

I have never wanted to smack anybody so much as Witless (apart from Rob from the Archers) I hope Nancy smacks her one. Poor Buster.

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit I think Whitney makes quite a good bitch. Her smirk at Nancy's expense was classic!

She's not going the right way about helping Lee though. The last thing he needs is his sister's enmity. However, I've no doubt part of Whitney's motivation was getting one over on Nancy.

Lee might go back to working on the fish stall. He obviously felt bad for both Buster and Nancy.

**storyseeker1** · 13-02-2016, 03:00