Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[storyseeker1]

Jane obviously missed that episode.

I couldn't remember. I know Lauren knew the truth, and Peter knew that she knew, but did the rest of his family?

[lizann]

I couldn't remember. I know Lauren knew the truth, and Peter knew that she knew, but did the rest of his family?

peter told lauren the truth and i thought he told ian and jane he told her but that may be wrong

[lizann]

I couldn't remember. I know Lauren knew the truth, and Peter knew that she knew, but did the rest of his family?

peter told lauren the truth and i thought he told ian and jane he told her but that may be wrong

[Kim]

Bit of a pathetic duff duff. We all know she knows who killed Lucy.

I agree, although in fairness some were thinking that Peter wouldn't have told Lauren the whole truth as we didn't hear the words.

Strange that we had a whole scene without Jane noticing/commenting on the fact that Lauren is pregnant. Would have preferred "Stop covering for Bobby or Ian will never see his grandchild" myself.

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I loved Sharon's attitude towards Kathy. Considering she knows exactly how it feels having a parent fake their death (I'm glad that wasn't forgotten), her disgust rang very true. I think she's also probably correct that it would be best for Ian and Ben never to know of their mother's betrayal (but at the same time they do have a right to know).

Of course, Sharon doesn't understand at the moment how controlling Gavin is and that Kathy feared for her kid's lives.

I can't believe what Ronnie did to Charlie - what a cow! I also can't believe their roles have completely reversed in a couple of months. Ronnie was the sympathetic one and Charlie was the b*stard after his and Roxy's fling. I suppose it's true you'd never trust someone again after that, but she seems to be using it as an excuse to get rid of him. Infuriating!



I agree what Kathy said about leaving Ben to Phil and Ian's care isn't what happened. Wasn't he left to Ian's care but Phil fought for custody? I'm sure Kathy didn't want Phil as Ben's guardian. Kathy could be lying though, perhaps because she's in denial because she feels so guilty at abandoning her sons.



We know the major points but not the details. Gavin owed some dangerous gangsters a lot of money and convinced Kathy their lives (and her whole family's) were in danger if they didn't fake their deaths. Gavin is sinister and controlling and Kathy was under his spell, so she believed him (that was made clear when they were sitting in the plane).

It's possible he made up the gangster story and just did it for the insurance money, but I'm pretty sure Kathy wouldn't have gone along with that if she'd known.

So who would have got the insurance money if there was any? I'm pretty certain that insurance companies would look oddly at any requests for it to not go to family followed so closely by the 'deaths' ...
I don't remember much detail from the time it happened - I have a vague memory of Ian going to SA but that's it.

[Rear window]

We know the major points but not the details. Gavin owed some dangerous gangsters a lot of money and convinced Kathy their lives (and her whole family's) were in danger if they didn't fake their deaths. Gavin is sinister and controlling and Kathy was under his spell, so she believed him (that was made clear when they were sitting in the plane).

It's possible he made up the gangster story and just did it for the insurance money, but I'm pretty sure Kathy wouldn't have gone along with that if she'd known.

So who would have got the insurance money if there was any? I'm pretty certain that insurance companies would look oddly at any requests for it to not go to family followed so closely by the 'deaths' ...
I don't remember much detail from the time it happened - I have a vague memory of Ian going to SA but that's it.

[Kim]

So who would have got the insurance money if there was any? I'm pretty certain that insurance companies would look oddly at any requests for it to not go to family followed so closely by the 'deaths' ...
I don't remember much detail from the time it happened - I have a vague memory of Ian going to SA but that's it.

I'm going to guess and say that Gavin's sister would have received it (though if it were a joint policy which it looks like it was, that in itself doesn't explain why Ian didn't get any, with some being left in trust for Ben.) It was Gavin's sister that the Beales were in contact with in 2006, so perhaps she is in on it. Maybe Gavin concocted some explanation for the insurers that Kathy didn't get on with her children so no money was to go to them, though as I've already said, I don't find the way this whole Kathy situation is going realistic.

Phil has known about this for three years from an email Kathy sent to the Arches? Yet they haven't told us when Phil first saw her again. Hoax emails from dead people do happen; Steven was "Cindy" back in 2007. Surely Phil, having been stalked by Ben little more than 6 months prior, wouldn't just have taken her word for it.

Funnily enough I bought Den's resurrection. My 11 year old self was easily satisfied.

[Dazzle]

Sharon's obviously clueless about the kind of abuse that men like Gavin can do. Yeah, Kathy looked well, but looks can be deceiving.

I can understand some of Sharon's reaction, as she went through the same thing with her dad as I recall. But some of what she said sounded petty and childish to me. "They've got me now!" Like she's worried Kathy is gonna come back and take over. Personally I think Kathy should take over, as Phil's done a shoddy job with Ben by teaching him violence up to the point of him committing murder, and unaccepting of his homosexuality etc. And Sharon, while she comes across as a nice person, she is definitely not someone I would call mother of the year considering the way Denny is acting. I was close to cheering when Kathy finally got some of her spirit back and shoved Sharon. Sharon so needed a slap!

To be fair to Sharon, I think she reacted exactly the way most people would have if they discovered the mother of a very close friend had faked their death. It's even worse for Sharon because she knows exactly how Ian will feel. She doesn't know why Kathy did it, and at the moment she doesn't want to know because she's so angry on Ian and Ben's behalf. She's bound to calm down and listen at some stage, although it looks to me like the writers are setting them up as enemies from the off.

I couldn't remember. I know Lauren knew the truth, and Peter knew that she knew, but did the rest of his family?

I can't remember either, but I took it from the duff duff that Jane wasn't supposed to realise Lauren knew.

So who would have got the insurance money if there was any? I'm pretty certain that insurance companies would look oddly at any requests for it to not go to family followed so closely by the 'deaths' ...
I don't remember much detail from the time it happened - I have a vague memory of Ian going to SA but that's it.

Gavin's sister "identified" the bodies so she must have been in on it. It might also come out that some local police were paid to look the other way too.

If it was Gavin's insurance policy, and his sister was his closest relative after Kathy, surely it would seem natural that she be the beneficiary?

Funnily enough I bought Den's resurrection. My 11 year old self was easily satisfied.

We're obviously going to be able to find holes if we look for them. They've engineered a story to bring Kathy back and I'll probably accept it as long as Kathy didn't just cold-heartedly abandon Ian and Ben - which doesn't appear to the case. It's obvious a lot of thought has gone into the details.

The fact is that truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction, as evidenced by the canoe man story upon which Kathy's resurrection has been loosely based.

[tammyy2j]

Marcus is a good solicitor, he is tearing each witness apart one by one showing a new suspect each time

Why cant Lauren tell Abi and Cora the truth

[Kim]

I'm finding the line about Ben taking Denny for a hair cut hilarious, seeing as he's about to show up with a new head.