Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[Kim]

I had Thursday's episode on in the background while I was doing my nails. All I can say how does DTC think that this is good quality entertainment?

Friday's was better. Great to see Tracey with some dialogue. But surely DTC wouldn't need to keep sacking people if he wasn't wasting money on costly scenes like Kathy and Gavin in a helicoper. He has money, we got that looking at his car and his house in Notting Hill when Sharon went there.

So obvious that Gavin is Sharon's father. Sharon tells Ian that he's practically her brother; next scene is Gavin sitting in his car.

[Dazzle]

I had Thursday's episode on in the background while I was doing my nails. All I can say how does DTC think that this is good quality entertainment?

I enjoyed Thursday's episode. To be fair, it's easier to pick up on the negatives when you're not fully absorbed in the storyline.

[lizann]

kathy wanted ian and phil to have ben really dtc changing past for new storyline

sharon now knows 2 big secrets

so why did kathy leave her boys and fake her death still no clear explanation or logic

[lizann]

kathy wanted ian and phil to have ben really dtc changing past for new storyline

sharon now knows 2 big secrets

so why did kathy leave her boys and fake her death still no clear explanation or logic

[Kim]

kathy wanted ian and phil to have ben really dtc changing past for new storyline

sharon now knows 2 big secrets

so why did kathy leave her boys and fake her death still no clear explanation or logic

Couldn't agree more. Just months before her supposed death Kathy moved house and didn't even bother telling Phil or giving him a new contact number so that he could phone Ben. Then all of a sudden she wants him to have him! Gavin insisted on that now did he? I always thought the details we were given about the crash meant that it couldn't have been faked, but of course continuity or whether something is true to character doesn't count for anything any more.

I expected Kathy to come back thinking that Ben had spent the rest of his childhood with Ian, then go mad when she found out that Phil got him, brought Stella into his life and taught him violence.

Where is Billy? Didn't he and Peggy know Kathy was alive also?

Ronnie is so cruel. She didn't even bother to tell Charlie about Matthew for months and now she doesn't even bother to break it to him gently that she doesn't want to be with him any more. Her and Vincent do my head in and that opening scene of them was a particular low point on Thursday.

[tammyy2j]

Wow at Kathy and Sharon violent scene, didn't expect that, good showdown though

Sharon's initial shock as seeing Kathy was well played by Letitia Dean

I agree Ronnie was very cruel and blunt with Charlie, he should claim full custody of Matthew and get spousal support as Ronnie has more money than him, claim the house if he can

I forgot Billy and Peggy know Kathy is alive too

Good to have Lauren back, just don't let her too cover for Bobby

[parkerman]

Bit of a pathetic duff duff. We all know she knows who killed Lucy.

[tammyy2j]

Bit of a pathetic duff duff. We all know she knows who killed Lucy.

She should have gone straight to the police station than to the Beale house and get her innocent dad out

[Dazzle]

I loved Sharon's attitude towards Kathy. Considering she knows exactly how it feels having a parent fake their death (I'm glad that wasn't forgotten), her disgust rang very true. I think she's also probably correct that it would be best for Ian and Ben never to know of their mother's betrayal (but at the same time they do have a right to know).

Of course, Sharon doesn't understand at the moment how controlling Gavin is and that Kathy feared for her kid's lives.

I can't believe what Ronnie did to Charlie - what a cow! I also can't believe their roles have completely reversed in a couple of months. Ronnie was the sympathetic one and Charlie was the b*stard after his and Roxy's fling. I suppose it's true you'd never trust someone again after that, but she seems to be using it as an excuse to get rid of him. Infuriating!

kathy wanted ian and phil to have ben really dtc changing past for new storyline

I agree what Kathy said about leaving Ben to Phil and Ian's care isn't what happened. Wasn't he left to Ian's care but Phil fought for custody? I'm sure Kathy didn't want Phil as Ben's guardian. Kathy could be lying though, perhaps because she's in denial because she feels so guilty at abandoning her sons.

so why did kathy leave her boys and fake her death still no clear explanation or logic

We know the major points but not the details. Gavin owed some dangerous gangsters a lot of money and convinced Kathy their lives (and her whole family's) were in danger if they didn't fake their deaths. Gavin is sinister and controlling and Kathy was under his spell, so she believed him (that was made clear when they were sitting in the plane).

It's possible he made up the gangster story and just did it for the insurance money, but I'm pretty sure Kathy wouldn't have gone along with that if she'd known.

Bit of a pathetic duff duff. We all know she knows who killed Lucy.

Jane obviously missed that episode.

[storyseeker1]

Well, we've learned a little now about what happened to Kathy so far. We know Gavin is a controlling jerk, putting her through god knows what. We also know that apparently he's on the run from some bad people, and he told her she'd be putting her family in danger if she stayed. Though I wonder if that was really true, and he was just playing with her?

Sharon's obviously clueless about the kind of abuse that men like Gavin can do. Yeah, Kathy looked well, but looks can be deceiving.

I can understand some of Sharon's reaction, as she went through the same thing with her dad as I recall. But some of what she said sounded petty and childish to me. "They've got me now!" Like she's worried Kathy is gonna come back and take over. Personally I think Kathy should take over, as Phil's done a shoddy job with Ben by teaching him violence up to the point of him committing murder, and unaccepting of his homosexuality etc. And Sharon, while she comes across as a nice person, she is definitely not someone I would call mother of the year considering the way Denny is acting. I was close to cheering when Kathy finally got some of her spirit back and shoved Sharon. Sharon so needed a slap!

Kathy likes Abi's name, but I wonder what she'd say if she actually knew the circumstances of her and Ben's relationship? Not to mention what a freaky girl Abi is becoming.