Lucy Beale

[xx_Dan_xx]

I sometimes use the subtitles too and they very often get things wrong! From what others are saying it seems that it was the sound of Lucy's musical box.

Thats what we meant, atleast I did. On christmas day I think it was said it was Lucy's from when she was a baby and still had for whatever reason.

[xx_Dan_xx]

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[Dazzle]

Thats what we meant, atleast I did. On christmas day I think it was said it was Lucy's from when she was a baby and still had for whatever reason.

It's where she kept her drugs so she may have been putting some in or getting some out when she was killed.

[Kim]

Some are speculating that Emma may have cracked the case to the point of knowing that the jewellery box was the weapon, and planted the jewellery box as a present to Beth herself to watch the reactions of the Beales and the Brannings when it was unwrapped. It was only ever speculation I believe that the jewellery box was left by the killer, and I can't see why they would want to draw attention to it knowing that it was the murder weapon.

[Dazzle]

Some are speculating that Emma may have cracked the case to the point of knowing that the jewellery box was the weapon, and planted the jewellery box as a present to Beth herself to watch the reactions of the Beales and the Brannings when it was unwrapped. It was only ever speculation I believe that the jewellery box was left by the killer, and I can't see why they would want to draw attention to it knowing that it was the murder weapon.

I like the idea that Emma put it there to monitor everyone's reactions, but I'm not sure about the box as the weapon. If it's like one I had as a child, it wouldn't be strong enough to be used to kill someone (but then I suppose you must be able to buy expensive and well made musical boxes). Also, if it was in the house at the time (and it must have been since Ian said he gave it a charity shop), surely forensics would have thoroughly checked it?

Edit: I suppose the killer could've taken it away and put it back after the police had finished with the house.

[xx_Dan_xx]

I think its Jane. Here is why:

The fact that the musical box is what Lucy last heard so her death suggests she must of died in her room on Good Friday.

Who had very easy access to the Beale house? Jane.

Emma figured out who did it when Patrick had fallen down the stairs in his own home. Lets suppose this is what Emma realised, that Lucy was murdered in her own home.

Emma then examined the Square most likely judging distances between houses.

Emma was still interested in the video of Lauren going to Lucy's house furthering the evidence Lucy was killed at home.

Jane says she saw Lauren going to the Beale house then left without entering.


If we assume this map is accurate, it would of been very difficult for Jane to of even seen Lauren do this and she happened to be looking out the window in a very awkward manner or happened to go outside at this time. My guess this was a cover and she wasn't even in the Masood house at the time and was moving Lucy's body.

The musical box returning to the Beale house was done as Jane had it cleaned and kept it rather than disposing of it for sentimental reasons. I believe Jane didn't mean to kill Lucy. She also seemed to know secretive spots in the Beale house like loose floorboards where she is storing Lucy;s phone. So keeping the box hidden until Christmas isn't past her.

The live episode itself is Ian and Jane's Wedding - if it was any other character it could realistically be any day and Ian finding out at the registry office, saying his vows, is obvious. As something big to either the broom or bride always happens on their wedding day to them personally.

Finally, Emma's phonecall. Emma said 'I'm glad I got a hold of you'. This suggests Emma had doubts they'd even answer the call knowing who it was. Jane was the worst to her that day.

Despite thinking its Jane, I do believe it was an accident - hence why Emma said its still murder to her in the park.

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If there is anything confirmed false in the above, please let me know as I have my facts wrong.

[parkerman]

Sounds good to me Dan.

[Kim]

Very good Dan. I believe it's Cindy or Jane but I've been thinking about it from the perspective of the fallout and what stories could come from it, where it would leave the Beales as a family unit etc, rather than thinking about how all the clues fit together. Your theory has me firmly in the Jane camp for the time being.

I wish I was better at working out whodunnits - the only one I've ever got right was the Frank one from Corrie!

There was something in a scene on the day of Lucy's funeral that made me think that Jane was the killer and Masood knew about it. I can't think why she'd need to tell him though. Unless Masood's car was used to move Lucy? It's a people carrier, so bigger. Is this possible? I used to drive a Micra like Jane's and the boot isn't very big.

[Dazzle]

I think its Jane.

Brilliant theory Dan! Everything seems to fit!

Jane also fulfills my hope that the killer will be a big character with emotional ties to Lucy and her family so would satisfy me immensely.

It will be the height of drama if Jane's revealed as the killer just before/after the wedding during the live episode. Her feelings of guilt could also explain her extremely puzzling enthusiasm to remarry Ian.

Despite thinking its Jane, I do believe it was an accident - hence why Emma said its still murder to her in the park.

For Emma to have insisted it was still murder appears to me to mean that the blow was deliberate even though it probably wasn't meant to kill (from what I've read, if it was truly an accident it would be manslaughter at the most). That means there was some serious anger involved. I wonder what could have happened between them?

Regarding the music box, it must have been in Lucy's room or been put back shortly after the police left for Ian to have given it to the charity shop.

[lizann]

was music box given to charity shop cora ran