Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[xx_Dan_xx]

I dont think the killer knows they killed her.

I know but im talking from if this was real. Whoever killed her would be edgy and but all characters seem fine and dandy.

[xx_Dan_xx]

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[monalisa62003]

I know but im talking from if this was real. Whoever killed her would be edgy and but all characters seem fine and dandy.

yeah thats what i mean. i think whoever killed her it was an accident which is why they dont know. they probably know they had an issue with her or done something but dont think that it killed her or was serious enough

[monalisa62003]

I know but im talking from if this was real. Whoever killed her would be edgy and but all characters seem fine and dandy.

yeah thats what i mean. i think whoever killed her it was an accident which is why they dont know. they probably know they had an issue with her or done something but dont think that it killed her or was serious enough

[Dazzle]

I never wanted phil to treat shirley bad. Why would i want that?

Sorry, I wasn't implying that you want Phil to be abusive to Shirley. I meant that since it's apparent that Phil can't treat her with respect anymore (except for the very rare occasion), why would a Shirley fan want her to be with him? You've answered that now.

Me neither. I think it was Dot.

It's always the one we least suspect...

You'd think that whoever killed her would be different in character, feeling guilty or edgy, but apart from Ben and Jay, no-one else looks dodgy about it.

That isn't true though - many of the characters are taking turns at being made to look shifty and suspicious to alert us viewers to the possible suspects. They've been shown looking guilty in private. Nearly all of them have proved to have lied or be hiding something relevant to the case. It just happens to be Ben and Jay's turn at the moment. There was Abi nearly drowning Lauren, Lee being proved to have a violent temper, etc.

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the writers were at it again in Friday's episode by making Denise look guilty. She said something along the lines that Lucy was a total cow, and she also went for Ian at one point and had to be restrained (by Masood I think). The writers were showing us that Denise didn't like Lucy and is capable of violence, and is therefore a suspect.

I dont think the killer knows they killed her.

I'll be disappointed if it turns out that's the case. Forensics are usually good enough to pick up the difference between a deliberate blow and an accidental one. For instance, I've seen the theory several times that Lucy's fall in the car lot may have ended up causing her death, but the post mortem should be able to tell that injury was caused by a fall and that it happened hours before her death. If there was any doubt the police would have informed Ian. There'd better be a damn good explanation if it transpires that Lucy's killer is unaware of their guilt.

There's also the small matter of the body being moved after death.

To me, it looked like Ian was buying time by lying to the police because he was undecided what to do next.

[monalisa62003]

Sorry, I wasn't implying that you want Phil to be abusive to Shirley. I meant that since it's apparent that Phil can't treat her with respect anymore (except for the very rare occasion), why would a Shirley fan want her to be with him? You've answered that now.



It's always the one we least suspect...



That isn't true though - many of the characters are taking turns at being made to look shifty and suspicious to alert us viewers to the possible suspects. They've been shown looking guilty in private. Nearly all of them have proved to have lied or be hiding something relevant to the case. It just happens to be Ben and Jay's turn at the moment. There was Abi nearly drowning Lauren, Lee being proved to have a violent temper, etc.

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the writers were at it again in Fridays episode by making Denise look guilty. She said something along the lines that Lucy was a total cow, and she also went for Ian at one point and had to be restrained (by Masood I think). The writers were showing us that Denise didn't like Lucy and is capable of violence, and is therefore a suspect.



I'll be disappointed if it turns out that's the case. Forensics are usually good enough to pick up the difference between a deliberate blow and an accidental one. For instance, I've seen the theory several times that Lucy's fall in the car lot may have ended up causing her death, but the post mortem would easily be able to differentiate between a non-fatal wound and a fatal one. If there was any doubt the police would have informed Ian. There'd better be a damn good explanation if it transpires that Lucy's killer is unaware of their guilt.

There's also the small matter of the body being moved after death.

To me, it looked like Ian was buying time by lying to the police because he was undecided what to do next.

I think phil has it in him to treat shirley right. Certainly when they originally got together in march 2010 he was. There have been loads of times we've seen him genuine with her, its only when there is pressure on him that he treats her bad, if he accepted what shirley means to him then there would be fewer moments. Why is it he seems to treat sharon with respect even after everything shes done to him, shes not that special. He never seems to change when it comes to sharon and is always nice to her. Surely if you had deep love for someone youd have more range of emotion in day to day things, i dont find phil and sharon realistic.

At least phil has never called shirley a silly tart and been threatening to beat mick up (with or without knowing hes her son)

I think its perfectly reasonable the killer doesnt know they done it and their reaction when they find out will make for good storytelling rather than the usual killer on the loose story we already have with ben and to less extent stacey. We dont need another one of those

[tammyy2j]

Had Lucy two mobile phones?

[Dazzle]

Had Lucy two mobile phones?

Not to my knowledge.

[Glen1]

I just hope the final discovery of the murderer is a real doozy. After the torture we've all experienced following this storyline ,nothing less will do. The murderer being a full cast member and with credible motives . If they can do this I for one will be a happy tiger.....

[monalisa62003]

I just hope the final discovery of the murderer is a real doozy. After the torture we've all experienced following this storyline ,nothing less will do. The murderer being a full cast member and with credible motives . If they can do this I for one will be a happy tiger.....

I actually dont think the murderer will have had a motive, alonG with them not knowing they never set out to kill her. Maybe they had arift with her but never imagined killing her. Thats the only reason i think the cast member wont be leaving as they never had intent and will show remorse when they realize what they did