Eastenders - Current Episode Discussion - VIII

[monalisa62003]

Did you mot see the scene wben ben told phil to ,arry sharon? Or when ben told him to go to sharon at the table?

Its not just for bens sake, phil wants a family, he knows if he sticks with sharon he get s a family life. Im sorry i dont buy hes madly in love with sharon when ben told him to go to her and he keeps asking questions about shirley

I meant phil is loyal to his kids. He covered up heathers murder for ben and kicked sharon out when she put lexi in danger. Maybe in the old days he done mistakes but just cos you make mistakes doesnt mean your not a loyal father and wants to do whats right by his kids

[monalisa62003]

Did you not see the scene wben ben told phil to marry sharon? Or when ben told him to go to sharon at the table?

Its not just for bens sake, phil wants a family, he knows if he sticks with sharon he get s a family life. Im sorry i dont buy hes madly in love with sharon when ben told him to go to her and he keeps asking questions about shirley

I meant phil is loyal to his kids. He covered up heathers murder for ben and kicked sharon out when she put lexi in danger. Maybe in the old days he done mistakes but just cos you make mistakes doesnt mean your not a loyal father and wants to do whats right by his kids

People in the old days said phil was only with shirley for bens sake. But i never believed that. Phil does love sharon but IMO hes not in love with her and his heart was never in it. He'll play along to keep a woman he gets a trophy wife and gets sex, shirleys gone and he doesnt know where she is. How do we know hes fully over her when he hasnt seen her? Shes out of sight

Phil was even going go marry stella for bens sake. He never loved stella but was prepared to marry her.

[Dazzle]

I meant phil is loyal to his kids. He covered up heathers murder for ben and kicked sharon out when she put lexi in danger. Maybe in the old days he done mistakes but just cos you make mistakes doesnt mean your not a loyal father and wants to do whats right by his kids

Phil has been downright abusive to Ben many times - those were not just "mistakes" and nothing can make up for them. He puts his family first only when it suits him. He's an irredeemable bully.

Phil was even going go marry stella for bens sake. He never loved stella but was prepared to marry her.

I'll refer you back to my original point that in my opinion Phil looked genuinely happy to have married Sharon on his wedding day. And yes, he did beg her not to leave him last night. To me, those are not signs of someone who married out of duty.

Yes, there have been lots of contradictory things said, and Phil has been very torn between Sharon and Shirley, but it seems to me he's made up his mind and is happy about it (for the time being at least).

I'm sure you'll get your wish and we'll see more of Phil and Shirley in the future, Mona.

Anyway, this debate is going around in circles so I won't say any more about it for now.

[monalisa62003]

He didnt even tell sharon he chose her, he said he married her, not that he chose her. i believe he chose shirley and sharons 2nd best. I still maintain he is upset shirley has gone and if he was so in love with sharon as he makes out, he should hsve left the table or reacted to sharon and not just cos ben told him to. thats the impression i got, that if ben didnt tell him to go,he wouldnt have gone after sharon. if they wanted us to believe hes in love with sharon,then having ben beg him to go isnt the way to go about it

Shirley has gone. Thats why he begged her not to go. He has noone else. Again why did he not react to sharon at the table?? Im still asking this cos i want a proper reason to go with the logic he seems to be so in love with her, but barely reacted and instead was staring at shirley. Baffles me

If he didnt beg sharon back, ben would have given him hell. It was ben who told him to beg sharon back and make it work.they shouldnt have included those scenes if they didnt want us to have that impression, stupid scenes if you ask me if thats not the way its supposed to come across. Phil was not begging sharon in tuesdays episode, he was wanting to see shirley.

If you remember in 2012, ben told phil to dump shirley and then when ben messed things up, phil pretty much said he brought shirley back for him, (though he tried to get her back over the derek thing) theres plenty of evidence to support phil marrying sharon for bens sake.

IMO for me, he was more natural happy with shirley when she proposed in 2012. The signs of him being happy with sharon werent natural

One thing that genuinely puzzles me, phil said in last nights ep he already told sharon he slept with shirley cos he wanted to hurt her, so he must have been genuine in wanting to see shirley. Why would he still be wanting to hurt sharon after he told her that was the reason?

[lizann]

i like this sullen quite scared linda poor thing she needs to speak up

[Dazzle]

I'm glad Linda's family are starting to notice something serious is the matter with her, but why didn't Nancy ask her why she was crying?

Why did Charlie stir things up between Ian and Max?

What did Max have to gain by dobbing in Summerhayes? Was it to free her from the investigation so they can carry on seeing each other? If so, that's unforgivable! Summerhayes will be fuming when she finds out - as she undoubtedly will. Doesn't Max realise that all calls to the police are recorded?

It's good to see Ian back. I've missed him even though I don't like him much as a character. I also loved seeing DI Keeble. I just wish we saw more of her.

Peter must be the chief suspect since it seems the detective is following him (he could be following Lauren but I think it's more likely to be Peter). I wonder what the police know that we don't?

[Glen1]

Likewise, I too would love to know what is DI Keeble's angle on the murder. Too early yet in the plot I suppose.

[tammyy2j]

I'm glad Linda's family are starting to notice something serious is the matter with her, but why didn't Nancy ask her why she was crying?

Why did Charlie stir things up between Ian and Max? Charlie don't like Max

What did Max have to gain by dobbing in Summerhayes? Was it to free her from the investigation so they can carry on seeing each other? If so, that's unforgivable! Summerhayes will be fuming when she finds out - as she undoubtedly will. Doesn't Max realise that all calls to the police are recorded? So she will off the case and he can have a "relationship" with her

It's good to see Ian back. I've missed him even though I don't like him much as a character. I also loved seeing DI Keeble. I just wish we saw more of her.

Peter must be the chief suspect since it seems the detective is following him (he could be following Lauren but I think it's more likely to be Peter). I wonder what the police know that we don't?

How can the copper be undercover around the square as Ian and the family will know him as he did visit them with Emma

He must think Lauren and Peter are suspects as he is only following them

[Dazzle]

How can the copper be undercover around the square as Ian and the family will know him as he did visit them with Emma

He must think Lauren and Peter are suspects as he is only following them

Good point lol. I guess he's trying to stay inconspicuous but it would be much more realistic to have a stranger following Peter.

[monalisa62003]

Why was Stan not bothered about what shirley done / where she is? he went away and hasnt mentioned her