Current Episode Discussion VI

[Pinkbanana]

Granted - Jane doesn't know he's unhinged yet but in that case, why is she so shocked? Lots of young lads have crushes on older women. That's not uncommon. I know he shouldn't have come on to a married woman but he made a mistake and he did apologise. Anyhow - sane or unhinged I would if i were Jane have understood Steven's feelings for what they were - an adolescent crush and would have reminded him that I am older than he, married etc and just got him to promise not to do it againand that if he did I would have no choice but to ask him to leave but I wouldn't get angry about it.

Jane has had a lot to cope with, her main focus is on what has happened to Ian, looking after the children and generally keep things ticking over - she has enough on her plate, so why should she have understood his feelings or what he did?!

He took advance of a situation, he probably doesnt have a crush on her anyway, he just wants to cause more pain for Ian, by sleeping with her, thats probably his true motivation.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know that Jane has a lot to cope with but I can't believe Steven would just use her to get at Ian. It's Ian he has a problem with. He seems to be fine with the others. Besides he has Ian locked up. If he really wanted to hurt Ian he would surely kiss Jane infront of him. I know he took advantage of that situation but I'm sure that was unintentional though Jane wouldn't see it that way. He misunderstood. He thought Jane was comming on to him so he kissed her but he apologised straight away. I think Pat would probably understand better since Pat knows him better (he is a stranger to Jane) and Pat doesb't have so much to cope with a Jane does. I'm not blaming Jane. I just said I would deal with the situation differently that's all.

[Pinkbanana]

I know that Jane has a lot to cope with but I can't believe Steven would just use her to get at Ian. It's Ian he has a problem with. He seems to be fine with the others. Besides he has Ian locked up. If he really wanted to hurt Ian he would surely kiss Jane infront of him. I know he took advantage of that situation but I'm sure that was unintentional though Jane wouldn't see it that way. He misunderstood.

He is misunderstood?! He can see the pain that he is causing, and yet he is happily living under the same roof as Jane and the other children, watchiing them go through the daily stress of not knowing what has happened to Ian, when he is responsible for it!!!

Just think back to all the sick things he has done, why would you find it so hard to believe that he would use Jane to get at Ian?

[Lizzie Brookes]

I agree that what he did to Ian is sick and that it is outrageous of him to stay with Jane, Peter and Lucy when he himself caused their pain but it would be dull if they showed him as completely badd. I don't believe he is. Of course if he really loved Jane he would fetch Ian back from that flat and confess all to the police. He seemed to repent a little last Friday but not enough to confess. I think he does have a crush on Jane and the kiss was just because he misread the signals - that would show he is not completely bad and has some good in him - just gets things wrong as Pat said - yes i know you will say Pat doesn't know what he did to Ian but I think that mistake with the kiss was totally seperate from his sick vendetta against Ian. I think that was genuine. I did not say by the way that he is misunderstood. I just said he misunderstood as in he misunderstood/mistread Jane's signals.

[Pinkbanana]

I agree that what he did to Ian is sick and that it is outrageous of him to stay with Jane, Peter and Lucy when he himself caused their pain but it would be dull if they showed him as completely badd. I don't believe he is. Of course if he really loved Jane he would fetch Ian back from that flat and confess all to the police. He seemed to repent a little last Friday but bot enough to confess. I think he does have a crush on Jane and the kiss was just because he misread the signals - that would show he is not completely bad and has some good in him - just gets things wrong as Pat said - yes i know you will say Pat doesn't know what he did to Ian but I think that mistake with the kiss was totally seperate from his sick vendetta against Ian. I think that was genuine. I did not say by the way that he is misunderstood. I just said he misunderstood as in he misunderstood/mistread Jane's signals.

If he loved Jane, which he doesnt, then why would he bring Ian back? It would suit him better that Ian never returned! Moreover, he loves the twins supposedly, and yet he hasnt returned Ian or handed himself in, despite seeing first hand the devastation he is causing!!! He is one sick and twisted character....

BTW dont you think he was totally out of order for try it on with Jane, when she is feeling very low and vulnerable, irrespective of how he felt? Also Jane is Ian's wife! The man he hates!!! Surely coming on to her would have added to his plan of revenge on Ian too?

[Lizzie Brookes]

If that's the way you want to look at it - his kissing Jane to hurt Ian then that's fine. That is your view. I agree that it was wrong for him to come onto Jane at that particular time and definitely wrong to come onto a married woman but I still think he misreasd the signals. She was talking to him as a son and when she put her hands on his shoulders and held his face - I suppose he just acted without thinking but he was quick to apologise and I doubt his apology would have come that quickly if he were just putting on an act or trying to further his revenge on Ian. I agree he doesn't love Jane, it is just a crush. He seemed to repent on Friday but he doesn't repent enough to hand himself in or bring back Ian so he loves the twins but not enough to put himself at risk.

He did seem a bit uncomfortable on Monday which is why he told Lucy some psycho was pretending to be Cindy and their mum is in fact dead. I'm not convinced he would be spilling milk etc around Jane if he didn't fancy her a little and if it were part of his sick vendetta against Ian. Besides if someone is unhinged, you hve to take that into account though I agree that he must take responsbility for his actions.

[Abbie]

I really thought he was going to confess everything but it looks like ti will be a good week next week then

[Lizzie Brookes]

I thought the same but how can you tell someone something like that? I don't think he had the guts. He didn't know how else to handle the situation other than to act on his crush on Jane. I am spasmodically compassionate towards him. I was last Friday and this Friiday and on Monday but at the same time I am angry with him for what he has done to Ian and how he can stand to live with Ian's family, knowing he is responsible for their sufferings.

[Kim]

Yeah, I like the character, but I'm quite angry with him for that too. I can't believe he didn't bother to shut the door behind him which caused Chips to go missing, even though he was worried about being caught for sending that text to Jane. It wasn't as if they were going to set out to trace the sender immediately.

For him to confess to everything would be too big a change in the character, I think. He ran away from what he'd done when he sent the poison pen letters, after all.

[Lizzie Brookes]

I know - but he was young then so nobody prosecuted. I agree it would be too big a change to confess. Yes I am surprised he didn't shut the gate but that was just irresponsibility. I think now, watching the omnibus, he burnt the phone he used to send the text so even if the police took Jane's mobile to trace which one sent it to her (I suppose the police can overcome the caller witheld their number thing) they couldn't because it would have been destroyed.