Dean Wicks

[storyseeker1]

I wonder if Mick knows what he's truly doing. I mean, I was all for Dean getting his comeuppance, but murder??? As despicable as he is, he is still Mick's brother and Shirley's son. Does Mick really think he can kill him and be able to look his mom in the face again, knowing he killed her youngest son? And will he be able to look into Jade's face, knowing he killed her father? Plus, as vengeful as he is, Mick doesn't seem the type who can kill, or at least kill and not feel guilty about it. And what if he gets caught; what will happen to his family then?

It seems to me that he's acting all on impulse, and not thinking things through clearly enough.

[lizann]

don't think it will be mick killing dean more likely roxy or ronnie

[maidmarian]

I wonder if Mick knows what he's truly doing. I mean, I was all for Dean getting his comeuppance, but murder??? As despicable as he is, he is still Mick's brother and Shirley's son. Does Mick really think he can kill him and be able to look his mom in the face again, knowing he killed her youngest son? And will he be able to look into Jade's face, knowing he killed her father? Plus, as vengeful as he is, Mick doesn't seem the type who can kill, or at least kill and not feel guilty about it. And what if he gets caught; what will happen to his family then?

It seems to me that he's acting all on impulse, and not thinking things through clearly enough.

The main tbing to me is Dean is removed
and punished and Linda is believed and
her reputation restored.

I agree if Mick "kills" Dean - in one
way he falls to his level.
If it is that Mick kills Dean -he should
consider the possibility of getting caught
( tho it depends how its done-dont
always get caught in soaps)

The results could be an effect on his own
self respect
Being parted from Linda for many years
and the effect of that on Linda and himself.
They are good couple and she has been
through a lot already in the last year.

The effect on his children- their father
labelled as a killer - albeit of scum.

But I dont think he should concern
himself unduly about Shirley. Apart
from the biological fact of having given
birth - the word Mother means whatever
each woman has made it mean to her
family by her actions over years!
In the case of Shirley - that doesnt seem
to be much.Shes a very selfish person-
putting it mildly.

So.I hope there is a way of getting rid
of Dean and vindicating Linda - without
too much detrimental effect on Mick
Linda & their children.

Everyone knows rapists arent always
caught but the storyline has strayed so
much from the original.idea and become
skewed by the PTBs preference for Dean
- that it has lost a lot of effectiveness.

[Dazzle]

I wonder if Mick knows what he's truly doing. I mean, I was all for Dean getting his comeuppance, but murder??? As despicable as he is, he is still Mick's brother and Shirley's son. Does Mick really think he can kill him and be able to look his mom in the face again, knowing he killed her youngest son? And will he be able to look into Jade's face, knowing he killed her father? Plus, as vengeful as he is, Mick doesn't seem the type who can kill, or at least kill and not feel guilty about it. And what if he gets caught; what will happen to his family then?

It seems to me that he's acting all on impulse, and not thinking things through clearly enough.

I agree, I don't think Mick's got it in him to kill. He understandably feels murderous at the moment but that doesn't mean he'll be able to go through with it. Of course, he'll have Ronnie encouraging him now, but I'm pretty sure that if they plan to murder Dean, Mick will come to his senses and try stop it.

[Dazzle]

But I dont think he should concern
himself unduly about Shirley. Apart
from the biological fact of having given
birth - the word Mother means whatever
each woman has made it mean to her
family by her actions over years!
In the case of Shirley - that doesnt seem
to be much.Shes a very selfish person-
putting it mildly.

I totally agree. After the way Shirley harassed and abused Linda after the rape was revealed, I don't personally think Mick should ever forgive her. If she was any kind of mother, she wouldn't have devastated Mick like that whether she believed Linda was lying or not.

Of course, this being a soap we know it'll all be forgiven and forgotten before long. It's started already...

[storyseeker1]

But I dont think he should concern
himself unduly about Shirley. Apart
from the biological fact of having given
birth - the word Mother means whatever
each woman has made it mean to her
family by her actions over years!
In the case of Shirley - that doesnt seem
to be much.Shes a very selfish person-
putting it mildly..

Remember, though, that unlike the rest of her kids, Shirley did actually raise Mick. Of course he didn't know she was his mother, but she was there for him while he was growing up after her mom left.

I totally agree. After the way Shirley harassed and abused Linda after the rape was revealed, I don't personally think Mick should ever forgive her. If she was any kind of mother, she wouldn't have devastated Mick like that whether she believed Linda was lying or not.

Of course, this being a soap we know it'll all be forgiven and forgotten before long. It's started already...

Maybe, but don't forget that Dean is her son too. Plus, she feels a lot of guilt concerning Dean, because she abandoned him as a child etc. I believe she tends to let her feelings of guilt override her sense. Plus, don't forget that she wasn't the only one who didn't believe Linda. There are several other people on the square who are sceptic about her as well.

[maidmarian]

Remember, though, that unlike the rest of her kids, Shirley did actually raise Mick. Of course he didn't know she was his mother, but she was there for him while he was growing up after her mom left.



Maybe, but don't forget that Dean is her son too. Plus, she feels a lot of guilt concerning Dean, because she abandoned him as a child etc. I believe she tends to let her feelings of guilt override her sense. Plus, don't forget that she wasn't the only one who didn't believe Linda. There are several other people on the square who are sceptic about her as well.

What happened in Micks childhood was a long
time ago. In families where the mother dies or
deserts older siblings do often take help care of the
younger ones -but thats not the same as raising
a child.

If she does feel guilt over the way she deserted
Dean - shes an adult and should make some
attempt to accept responsibiity -not take her
guilt out on other people. She is not only selfish
as I said before but also self- centred.

Its true that other people didnt believe Linda
but they were neighbours/ strangers with
little previous knowledge of Linda.
Shirley is a family member whether its as a
mother- or sister- in law. I would hope that in
most families than unless there was
overwhelming evidence to the contrary
or previous behaviour that cast doubt -the
family member would be believed.

The SWs can decide on a scenario but unless
the detailed writing and the acting supports
that scenario you end up with a botch- up.
And the cracks will be papered over in
an unbelievable " Soap "way - as Dazzle
suggests.

The Rape story was initially a good idea- but
theyve let spin and unrealistic dramatics
& some ret- conning ruin it. And it is a very
important issue!

[Dazzle]

Plus, don't forget that she wasn't the only one who didn't believe Linda. There are several other people on the square who are sceptic about her as well.

The point I was trying to make is that, irrespective of whether she believed Linda or not, Shirley's bullying behaviour towards Linda (and by extension Mick) was appalling. And it wasn't just her initial reaction, it continued for many months. If she truly was a loving mother, she would have been a lot more circumspect in her behaviour so as not to hurt Mick. That's what I find unforgivable.

[tammyy2j]

I wonder if Mick knows what he's truly doing. I mean, I was all for Dean getting his comeuppance, but murder??? As despicable as he is, he is still Mick's brother and Shirley's son. Does Mick really think he can kill him and be able to look his mom in the face again, knowing he killed her youngest son? And will he be able to look into Jade's face, knowing he killed her father? Plus, as vengeful as he is, Mick doesn't seem the type who can kill, or at least kill and not feel guilty about it. And what if he gets caught; what will happen to his family then?

It seems to me that he's acting all on impulse, and not thinking things through clearly enough.

I don't want Dean killed off by Mick either, I know there is no way back for him after the rape so he cant be redeemed but I want him to admit his guilt so all will hear

Mick was wise calling off Ronnie's hit plan tonight at least

[maidmarian]

I don't want Dean killed off by Mick either, I know there is no way back for him after the rape so he cant be redeemed but I want him to admit his guilt so all will hear

Mick was wise calling off Ronnie's hit plan tonight at least

If Mick does kill Dean it could have
devastating effects on him and his
family for years to come-if hes found
out.
Dean would be dead but in a way he
would have "won" again as hes ruined
the familys life and still no real vindication
for Linda.
On a practical note I would say anyone
entering on a joint enterprise murder
would be better off with a more "steady"
partner than Ronnie!