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Thread: Coronation Street - Current Episode Discussion - IV

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    While I can completely understand Gary feeling betrayed, I hate the insinuation - particularly from her family - that Alya's now damaged goods. We know a male who'd behaved similarly wouldn't be judged so harshly.

    I'm liking the chemistry between Mary and Brendan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzle View Post
    While I can completely understand Gary feeling betrayed, I hate the insinuation - particularly from her family - that Alya's now damaged goods. We know a male who'd behaved similarly wouldn't be judged so harshly.

    I'm liking the chemistry between Mary and Brendan.
    I think the attitude to Alya is typical of Soap
    portrayal of women. Some ideas belong to the
    century before last.They are either Desperate or
    Dim and now this!!

    On a more cheery note its nice to see Mary
    with someone below pension age! just!!
    I think they could make much more of
    the character and hope they do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzle View Post
    While I can completely understand Gary feeling betrayed, I hate the insinuation - particularly from her family - that Alya's now damaged goods. We know a male who'd behaved similarly wouldn't be judged so harshly.

    I think it's more to do with muslim religion and culture than general view..
    It's been boring to watch this Alya's struggle as I can't really understand it.There's so many worse things you could do..All the damage she's done by revealing it all is far worse than keeping it as a secret. Jason was fine with it and already all forgotten, why couldn't she? Too honest for her own and everyone else's good. Stupid really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzle View Post
    While I can completely understand Gary feeling betrayed, I hate the insinuation - particularly from her family - that Alya's now damaged goods. We know a male who'd behaved similarly wouldn't be judged so harshly.

    I think it's more to do with muslim religion and culture than general view..
    It's been boring to watch this Alya's struggle as I can't really understand it.There's so many worse things you could do..All the damage she's done by revealing it all is far worse than keeping it as a secret. Jason was fine with it and already all forgotten, why couldn't she? Too honest for her own and everyone else's good. Stupid really.
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    n the words of Rizzo in Grease.....'there are worse things I could do......then go with a boy or two...'

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    Just another soap thing of portraying women with loose knicker elastic.
    It seems it is only Mary who buys her underwear from the right place.

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    dupl
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariba View Post
    I think it's more to do with muslim religion and culture than general view..
    It's been boring to watch this Alya's struggle as I can't really understand it.There's so many worse things you could do..All the damage she's done by revealing it all is far worse than keeping it as a secret. Jason was fine with it and already all forgotten, why couldn't she? Too honest for her own and everyone else's good. Stupid really.
    Bit in bold: that's the whole point though. Alya's been brought up to believe there isn't much worse a woman can do than to have sex outside of marriage. Her grandfather and brother's shaming of her at the revelation confirms this.

    Obviously, the sensible thing to do would have been to keep quiet, but she was too distraught to do so. I actually think it's quite a good storyline to explore. After all, girls have been killed for far, far less. Even in Western society, women who are seen as promiscuous are judged far more harshly than their male counterparts.

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    I don't think this storyline has been so bad so far. The worst part for me was the pregnancy test. I just hope that if Blackburn had it in mind for Alya to be pregnant, someone has vetoed it (which may well be the case as it seems that Blackburn may have been sacked.) There have certainly been a few mentions lately (and Alya's scenes with Jake) which made me think that that may have been the intention.

    Reactions have been pretty spot on I think. Garry's anger will surely intensify now that he knows it's Jason (if anything one of the issues with this storyline has been that Garry and Jason seem like they're suddenly good mates, whereas before Garry just happened to work for him and that was that.) In time, I hope that we'll see Garry come around a bit; he's no angel himself, and even tried to get with Tina while she was carrying Jake for him and Izzy. Although Alya crossed a line by sleeping with someone else, it was a mistake while she was grieving, whereas Garry's seemed more considered/to mean something.

    As others have said, it is the culture issue with Alya. The treatment may be outdated and the show may be intending to prompt discussion of it, but it can't all be nice as otherwise Muslims will be complaining at the depiction. As well as the culture, I think the Nazirs feel even more let down by Alya as she has always been the one they've been proud of until now (the clever, educated one etc.) With both parents deceased, there's probably more pressure on her to make them proud. That can only make it worse in their eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    Reactions have been pretty spot on I think. Garry's anger will surely intensify now that he knows it's Jason (if anything one of the issues with this storyline has been that Garry and Jason seem like they're suddenly good mates, whereas before Garry just happened to work for him and that was that.) In time, I hope that we'll see Garry come around a bit; he's no angel himself, and even tried to get with Tina while she was carrying Jake for him and Izzy. Although Alya crossed a line by sleeping with someone else, it was a mistake while she was grieving, whereas Garry's seemed more considered/to mean something.
    I agree about Gary's contrived sudden friendship with Jason. I've found that jarring too.

    I think he will forgive Alya after he's calmed down, as I'm sure her family will too. After all she was devastated and acting completely out of character at the time.

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