Coronation Street - Current Episode Discussion - IV

[parkerman]

As I think most of you will know I am not Tracy's greatest fan on here....however, I do feel compelled to actually give her some support over her "scene" with Robert. She was feeling desperately alone and unhappy. Her mother had died and the only father she had really known had rejected her at the funeral, a very vulnerable time for her. She must have been desperate for some love and affection and there was her ex-husband, someone she had presumably loved and maybe still had feelings for, willing to comfort her (and more!) I don't think it is at all unreasonable that Tracy should have wanted to "get close".

[Dazzle]

As I think most of you will know I am not Tracy's greatest fan on here....however, I do feel compelled to actually give her some support over her "scene" with Robert. She was feeling desperately alone and unhappy. Her mother had died and the only father she had really known had rejected her at the funeral, a very vulnerable time for her. She must have been desperate for some love and affection and there was her ex-husband, someone she had presumably loved and maybe still had feelings for, willing to comfort her (and more!) I don't think it is at all unreasonable that Tracy should have wanted to "get close".

I'd agree with you if we were talking about anyone else Parkerman.

However, as far as I'm concerned Tracy wasn't desperately upset or lonely because she's not capable of deep feelings. Moreover, the scene didn't come across to me as two people comforting each other, but instead as two people overcome by lust.

[lizann]

deirdre's death is all about tracy

[mariba]

Tracy and Robert scene was ok for me, I just wished Ken wouldn't have seen it..
I think it was especially cruel from Ken to accuse Tracy crying crocodile tears!! For goodness sake! Deirdre was her mum, and they did love and care for each other! As educated as Ken pretends to be, he should know better!

[swmc66]

He should have held back as it was her mums funeral. But she did act inappropriately later and agree it it was more about lust than comfort. This women is not normal. She smirks when she sees buildings on fire

[Dazzle]

As educated as Ken pretends to be, he should know better!

Unfortunately, a good education doesn't mean a person has emotional intelligence. In a fraught situation it's all too easy for people to say and do things they'd usually leave unsaid.

Anyway, whatever the rights and wrongs of Ken and Tracy's behaviour, no doubt all will be forgiven soon enough. I'll remain team Ken no matter how vile he is to the psycho murderer though!

[Perdita]

I agree with parkerman on the subject of Tracy feeling lonely and she is grieving for her mum, people can do silly things at a time like this and I think Tracy trying it on with Robert was an act due to her grieving, don´t think even lust came into it much, she probably just needed somebody to hold her for a bit and trying to get him into bed would have achieved that ... Ken too is grieving and saying things to Tracy he will later regret, I am sure.

[mariba]

I don't want to defend Tracy's past actions or behavior in any way-I agree there's something totally wrong with her personality. BUT-whatever she's done, whoever she's hurt in the past-Deirdre was still her mum, and Tracy still knew her the best, even better than Ken. Deirdre was the only person who loved her unconditionally and maybe one of the very few that Tracy really loved too.
Rather than finding a letter about funeral arrangements, I would have liked to see Tracy finding a letter from her mum to herself. I think that would have been expected too when she stayed away longer because of being ashamed of her(stupid reason..but hey..)-she could have been writing her thoughts down on the paper.

[mariba]

I don't want to defend Tracy's past actions or behavior in any way-I agree there's something totally wrong with her personality. BUT-whatever she's done, whoever she's hurt in the past-Deirdre was still her mum, and Tracy still knew her the best, even better than Ken. Deirdre was the only person who loved her unconditionally and maybe one of the very few that Tracy really loved too.
Rather than finding a letter about funeral arrangements, I would have liked to see Tracy finding a letter from her mum to herself. I think that would have been expected too when she stayed away longer because of being ashamed of her(stupid reason..but hey..)-she could have been writing her thoughts down on the paper.

Regarding Deirdre's death storyline..I was thinking the other day-did we need Deirdre's funeral? Maybe she could have moved to Canada with Ken or something. As much loved as Barlows, and Ken are-what are they(writers) going to do with him now anyway?? It's just sad to see that family now without Deirdre so maybe it would have been better to change everything..Ken&Deirdre abroad, burn down the house and re-decorate it for Tracy&Amy etc.

[Dazzle]

Wow..I can't believe the posters lining up to defend Tracy!

Sorry, but to me she'll always be a cold-blooded murderer who's shown no remorse whatsoever for Charlie's death; indeed, she's even joked about it! Then again recently, she was responsible for two deaths and shown little emotion about it. She's not only allowed Carla to take the blame, she's actively spread the rumours that encouraged it! Only a couple of weeks ago, she delighted in ruining Liz's life by gloating about her affair with Tony. As far as Deirdre goes, it's absolutely true that her mother was the only person who loved her unconditionally, but Tracy didn't show her the same love or respect.

Tracy's past colours her present and future in my eyes. She's been written for years as someone who's not capable of remorse, guilt or real love. She uses and manipulates people to her own end without caring about the effect on them (and that includes her close family). Remember, she sold her daughter to Roy and Hayley!

Therefore, there's no way that I'm going to be persuaded that Tracy's the kind of person who's going to be deeply distressed at the loss of her mother, no matter how those scenes are written or acted. Lizann puts it perfectly above: Deirdre's death is all about Tracy.

If the writers use Deirdre's death to try to redeem Tracy, there's no way I'll find it believable. Leopards like Tracy do not change their spots in real life.