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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzle View Post
    When I've put my animals down, it hasn't been about what I want or can cope with, it's been about ending their suffering. Pain is pain and we all have the same nervous systems. I really pity the animals of people who won't put them to sleep when they're dying in agony
    I couldn't stand by and not help my pet who was suffering. That would have been worse then anything. Too often it's pet owners who haven't the courage to take the step and instead will let the animal linger on suffering. That's not compassion, that's selfish irresponsibility to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmc66 View Post
    Just because your sick should not mean that people have a right to kill you. If dogs had voices I am sure they would say don't do it. If we used the same rule for humans a lot of us would not be around.
    The question for you is, should the person who is suffering have the right? You are talking about rights here, what about the right to make that decision by the person who is suffering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarah c View Post
    I made the decision to put my cat to sleep when his liver cancer progressed to start eating his muscles an insides. I had treated him with medication for 18 months prior to that and his quality of life was good...until I had to watch he cancer literally eat him from inside

    so I should have waited for him to 'simply die on his own'?


    amazing...
    Probably, yes. Animals can't tell us how they feel, humans can. Why take the word of a vet who doesn't know the animal though? If you have a bond with an animal you would know what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzle View Post
    When I've put my animals down, it hasn't been about what I want or can cope with, it's been about ending their suffering. Pain is pain and we all have the same nervous systems. I really pity the animals of people who won't put them to sleep when they're dying in agony
    It hasn't been about I with me either. What I'm trying to say is I couldn't cope with doing something that my pet doesn't want. Society has made most pet carers believe that euthanasia is ok. I just don't believe it! Much money is made out of it too. Once the power is given to euthanase, it tends to be overused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur View Post
    It hasn't been about I with me either. What I'm trying to say is I couldn't cope with doing something that my pet doesn't want. Society has made most pet carers believe that euthanasia is ok. I just don't believe it! Much money is made out of it too. Once the power is given to euthanase, it tends to be overused.
    I'm quite capable of making my own decisions, thank you!!!!

    I'm not one to follow like a sheep just because others think something's ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzle View Post
    I'm quite capable of making my own decisions, thank you!!!!

    I've said above that I supported my father's decision to commit suicide even though it has badly affected my life (edited to make clear that I didn't know beforehand). I'm not one to follow like a sheep just because others think something's ok.

    I've been a vegetarian since I was 7 (over 30 years) when it wasn't fashionable and caused me a great deal of trouble to stick to. I make my own decisions, especially about the people and animals I care about!!!
    I never said you couldn't make your own decisions. Sorry. In my experience, people I've heard talking at the vets seem to see no alternative, and think the vets know best. So sad.

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    Most owners of animals will want to take care of their pets until the animal is in obvious pain, discomfort, too sick and suffering to carry on living. While some animals will go away to die, usually when they have become old, however, like humans, animals don't just decide to die, vital body organs need to shut down first which, as in humans, can take a long time, but we don't put an animal on a morphine drip to keep it alive until death eventually occurs. Any respectable vet will also not put an animal to sleep unless it is really necessary for the animal to be out of pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur View Post
    I never said you couldn't make your own decisions. Sorry. In my experience, people I've heard talking at the vets seem to see no alternative, and think the vets know best. So sad.
    That's exactly what you implied by stating "Society has made most pet carers believe that euthanasia is ok", as if the pet owner's themselves just go along with whatever society and/or vets dictate without making their own decisions.

    I've had enough of your stupidity now and will be putting you on my "ignore list" (I hope that's possible on this forum as I've never had to do it before). I can't bear to read any more of your ignorant views

    Edited: done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffed_lemur View Post
    Probably, yes. Animals can't tell us how they feel, humans can. Why take the word of a vet who doesn't know the animal though? If you have a bond with an animal you would know what they want.
    And I'd known him for 16 years and his look said 'enough make it stop....'

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