Eastender current episode discussion IV

[storyseeker1]

will anyone remember max's innocent protests and naming bobby as lucy's killer once what he done to jane comes out, lauren is supposedly back late next week or week after

Hopefully. I know that nobody believed him, as I guess they couldn't believe that little Bobby could be capable of doing such a terrible thing, but now maybe they'll finally get their heads out of the sand and start to think.

[Ruffed_lemur]

will anyone remember max's innocent protests and naming bobby as lucy's killer once what he done to jane comes out, lauren is supposedly back late next week or week after

Hope they do. I wonder what Bobby's reaction will be when he realises just what he's done?

[parkerman]

It'll be ok. Ian will find someone else to blame for what happened and get them locked up for life as well.

[Dazzle]

Bobby was as cold as ice whacking Jane! No remorse either. Definitely a psychopath/sociopath, although we knew that after the spider torture incident.

I agree with you all that Jane's attack was brutal and shocking. I didn't expect Bobby to carry on hitting her after the first time.

Apart from that, there were quite a lot of tears from me yet again during this episode. The simple yet effective wedding, Martin and Stacey's scenes, Phil and Sharon's scenes (particularly the one where Dot talked about Ethel's death), and Phil and Shirley's scene, all moved me.

I hope Martin and Stacey are now kept together for as long as both actors remain in the show.

[Splashy]

Last eps seem to confirm that Andy is actually Danielle's brother, or at least someone who knew her. I suppose he could always be a former lover or something like that out for revenge.

Im lost on this one,wasnt Danielle Ronnies off spring? My problem is that they now use visuals so much that its totally lost on us blindies

[Dazzle]

Im lost on this one,wasnt Danielle Ronnies off spring? My problem is that they now use visuals so much that its totally lost on us blindies

Yes, Danielle was Ronnie's child that she had at thirteen and was taken from her and adopted. She was killed soon after Ronnie learnt her true identity.

The picture depicting Danielle and a young Andy was only shown for a second or two. I found it almost impossible to make it out myself in that time, so it wasn't fair on anyone with eyesight problems.

[storyseeker1]

Im lost on this one,wasnt Danielle Ronnies off spring? My problem is that they now use visuals so much that its totally lost on us blindies

Yeah, Danielle was Ronnie's daughter that she gave up for adoption when she was a kid. Danielle was killed in a hit and run just when Ronnie found out who she was (thanks in no small part to her father, Archie may he rest in pieces).

Bobby was as cold as ice whacking Jane! No remorse either. Definitely a psychopath/sociopath, although we knew that after the spider torture incident.

Bobby is definitely twisted! Like I said, though, he could still be IED. People who suffer with that lose complete control of themselves when they have an outburst, only to feel total remorse after they've done whatever. Bobby seems to have all the symptoms, except for the remorseful part, but then again that could be just because he's a kid and he's one of those that refuse to acknowledge his guilt and try to get away with things.

[Dazzle]

Bobby didn't appear to me to lose control when he attacked Jane. Sure, he was angry with her, but the attack didn't seem to be an explosion of rage. Quite the opposite. If I remember it correctly, he even waited until her back was turned, which shows he thought about it for a moment or two. The lack of remorse or even shock immediately afterwards strengthens my opinion. However, my interpretation could be down to bad directing and/or acting (or memory!) so we'll have see what happens next.

Just to add: animal torture is a classic sign of deep psychopathy, which is why I imagine Bobby was written as doing that. Many serial killers have a history of beginning their sadistic careers as children by torturing small animals.

[flappinfanny]

Every time I see him I just keep thinking Damian from the Omen!! He is one evil kid

I think of Rodney and Only fools and Horses.

[flappinfanny]

It'll be ok. Ian will find someone else to blame for what happened and get them locked up for life as well.