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:D how does zoe go out of ee?? :confused:
some people are saying see leaves in a ploice car but i dont know.
ooooh sounds exciting it could be true
probably by police car, she isn't being killed off is she? She might end up going to stay with mysterious relatives like Kat did or something.
She said her exit was going to be tied in with an explosive storyline!
that could be anything from slipping on a sandwich and cracking her head open to um, leaving in a black cab. the possibilities! how long till she leaves? cos it might have sumthing to do with the current plot.
A few months I think! Hopefully not another black cab ending!
well, its either a cab or a hearse usually lol.
hmm, if its in a few months it probably wont be to do with the den thing. maybe something to do with dennis and sharon coming back?
Oohhh What If Her Family Finds Out The Truth About The Pregnancy!!!! :eek:
yeah they always end in black cabs lol
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Originally Posted by Cherryz
well i just figured if dennis did come back, people would probably still think he was the father of her child (which he wasn't) and that zoe had a 'miscarriage' so some people might think he has a right to know, and have a go at him for leaving her! maybe even blame him for what happened.
but he obviously knows the truth, sooo...
She might feel that she has let the Slater name down!
I thought maybe with Dennis returning all her secrets could be about to come out cos everyone except Sam and Chrissie think she lost Dennis's baby and with Sam and Chrissie calling a truce in the next couple of weeks ZOe could find herself very alone
hi, im not sure if many will join this new thread in saying that they are fans of zoe slater or zonnis! but i just want to say that i love zoe's character, she has been through so much at such a young age, and she alwasy bounces back, even after the death of den, i HATE chrissie now for telling her that she killed den! that was so wrong, zoe would of probably kept quiet for chrissie anyway if she had just told her the truth, I'll be really, really, really sad to see Zoe leave- thats on june 17th by the way, but before she leaves i hope she gets her revenge on sam, chrissie, dennis and sharon for all that they've done to her. She deserves some happiness in her life, im just glad that she was happy with dennis for a while, and my honest opinion is that when zoe told dennis she was pregnant whilst she was panicking and scared that he'd find out the truth he was actually getting over sharon and becoming happy, not just because of the "baby" but because of zoe too, remember many a time he got jealous when she was flirting with others like jake moon, and he looked truly devastated when he caught her and den in bed together, and after all that he was still going to take her back, untill he found out the truth of course! and zoe only lied to keep dennis, and remember den put her up to the lie, anyone agree with me?
I am not a zoe fan but i dont mind the actress she seem quite nice and i wish all luck in the future
Getting back to your post zoe has been through a lot i suppose at a young age but who hasnt been in the square some have been through far worse and she had a loving supporting family an around her who loved her
Zoe was probalry happy because she was blinded by love i dont think dennis was really happy otherwise he wouldnt of kept trying to get back with sharon we all knew were his heart lied it was just a matter of time. After sharon left we all saw how heart broken he was to the fact he lost the only woman he loved. I think he was getting used to being a dad i dont think it had anything to do with zoe as much and the fact he was getting jealous was because she was kissing another man when supposedly she was meant to be carry dennis baby you dont do that to the person you love
If he was getting used to zoe then why wasnt he sleeping with her?
When he caught zoe and den together i feel it was more to do with him letting the woman he loved leave only to be stabbed in the back in a cruel way afterall he did sacrifice happiness with the woman he loved for her and the baby and she thrown it back in his face for standing by her and supporting her and sleeping with your boyfriends dad is the ultimate betrayal and he was hurt by the fact he let the woman he truly love leave for nothing and was thinking about the baby he was getting so use to. This was a devasting a blow he had let the woman he loved go for nothing and the fact his dad betrayed him was even worse and when he found out about the baby lie he was crushed because he got use to the idea of being dad that was a evil thing for to do.
Chrissie is great she was hurt by zoe as well and she was a innocent partie in all this she didnt deserve what she got she loved den and wanted to have a baby with him and zoe knew this and still went an along with her plan which was a purely selfish and desperate act and not even thinking of the consquences that layed ahead she could of stopped it at any time but she chose not to she knew den was only trying to hurt dennis if she really loved dennis she wouldnt of gone along with it in the first place.
Okay fair play they shouldnt of gone behind her back but come on she had warning signs left right and centre but she choose not to see them because she knew deep down their was no love but she got clingy and desperate which was even worse. Okay it wasnt all zoe fault den had as much fault as anyone he was manipulating the situation but zoe had a mind of her own and had the right to say no but she didnt because by doing this she was gaining something from this a baby and ultimately trapping the guy she was desperate to keep One thing that made me not feel sorry for her was when she used sharon infertility against her their was no need for it that was a cruel thing to do in my book you dont take pleasure in the fact that you can bring a child in to the world and another person cant you dont rub it in their face it not right especially when you are lying and it is just plain cruel. :angel:
Sorry its a bit of a rant?
There has been a lot of debate over this. However, I'm inclined to agree with anglebule here. The reality of it is that Zoe is not the poor little victim who got trampled over by the Watts family, far from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by leanne27
Zoe hasn't had a great life but I don't consider it hard. Characters like Dennis, Sharon, Stacey and Kat have had tough childhoods but Zoe has come from a large loving family who love and dote on her. Charlie worships the ground that she walks on and sees past the 'princess' label that viewers like ourselves can visibly see. It’s ironic how Stacey is the only one in the Slater clan to see past that. Chrissie was wrong for blaming it on Zoe and letting her think that she killed Den. I do think that was inexcusable but I do feel it was understandable because lets face it Zoe is hardly a sane character and would drop the three in it if she knew the truth. Nevertheless, Zoe did not deserve that. Chrissie will get her comeuppance once day but it won't be at the hands of Zoe. However let’s not forget that Zoe slept with her husband even though Chrissie confided in her about wanting a child. Despite Zoe’s desperation there was only one person who Zoe was thinking about it all this and that was herself. Very selfish that is.
Why would Zoe want to get revenge on Sharon and Dennis? Chrissie I understand but not the others. I know they cheated on her but she was so obvious to the truth the whole time. Sharon told her that Dennis still loved her but she didn't want to here it. Dennis also said to her before they dated that he wasn't a commitment man and he'd be seen with other women. She didn't have any complaints back then. Not only that, he also told her well into their relationship that he did not love her and thought of Sharon. However she took it upon herself to take that risk in the desperation scenario that he would one day love her and forget about Sharon. She knew deep down that he still harboured deep feelings for her but she didn't want to see it and was consumed by her blinded 'love' for him.
Also what about what Zoe has done to them? Sharon and Dennis have been no angles but I think what Zoe did and said was far worse than a two week affair that Sharon and Dennis had. It made my blood boil when she harped onto Sharon about 'splitting up a family' and 'are you gonna give him a baby?'. She destroyed their happiness just so she could have him. As for revenge on them I think she's had that but splitting them up and the impregnating herself with Den's baby. When it comes down to it Zoe was planning to lie about the childs parentage for the rest on his life and keep Dennis oblivious to the truth forever. Wouldn’t you say that was worse than a very short affair? Personally I would love to see Sharon give her a smack for what she’s done.
Dennis never got 'over' Sharon. This much is crystal clear. She was the love of his life. You just done forget about some like that in a matter of weeks, sometimes never. Also just before Dennis left in January after discovering the pregnancy lie he told Den 'I'll never forget Sharon.' Dennis tried to make a go of things with Zoe, not because he loved her but because she carrying his unborn child, which is the reason he stayed in the first place. As for her flirtations with Jake, I don't think he was jealous in anyway but disgusted with her attempts to get Dennis's attention. She was behaving pathetically in front of a pub load of people and it annoyed him and she was supposed to be carrying his child. Hardly a way to behave. Dennis was shocked, angry and hurt when he found them in bed together but I think this was more to do with Den’s postion in than Zoe’s. A father figure is something that Dennis has craved for since childhood and they seemed to be getting along (Den had other plans) and when he saw them together he was hurt by his betrayal and his attempts of punishing him for ever loving Sharon. However the sight of your girlfriend and dad in bed together is enough to drive anyone up the wall.
Zoe's reasons for keeping Dennis were selfish and desperate. You’re right Den did put her up to it but she made the decision. He wasn't forcing her to do it. He made it clear several times that she was here because she wanted to be. I agree that he was in the driving seat and pushed all the right buttons. Zoe however is no child. She was 21 and therefore in control over what she says and does. If a dirty old man propositions you for sex (and that being your fellas dad) you would say no. It was quite clear that she would have done anything to keep Dennis and had Dennis not found out, she would still be lying now.
Pretending she was pregnant was a desperate measure and although Den persuaded her to say it put it this way she didn't need much persuading. Zoe thought she could buy Dennis's love with a baby and this only served to cause more problems for herself however bedding her boyfriend's dad was tkaing her love for Dennis too far in fact she did not do it for Dennis but for herself as she couldn't bare the thought of everyone discovering the truth about her phantom pregnancy.
Zoe gave no thought for Dennis's feelings or Chrissie's when she slept with Den but did Dennis think of Zoe as he bedded Sharon I believe he felt guilty but he was just as bad as she was at that stage. They only difference being is that he loved Sharon she had no feelings for Den.
Zoe also showed her desperation when she snogged Jake Moon (can't blame the girl really can you) I think all her behaviour the clinginess, the blindness to the truth etc stems from all the lies she was told when she was growing up and I pity her but I don't like her
Zoe is a good one for outting the blame onto someone else and that showed again after she had the termination and she desperately tried to blame Chrissie and yes Chrissie in a way rail roaded her but it was Zoe's final desicion Zoe always feels the need for shifting the blame onto others as it saves her having to face up to her own mistakes she's naive and shows great immaturity in that respect
If Zoe thought of other for a second instead of her all the time she would have let Dennis go a long time ago she obviously had no self respect for herself just as others will soon have respect for her whe they discover the truth her reasons for keeping Dennis were for herself she never gave him or Sharon a second thought
Another side to Zoe was shown when she caught Stacey in the flat with Dennis now it was obvious then Stacey had alot of problems but once again princess Zoe steam rolled in and I think that was the turning point for Dennis when he realised Zoe could only think of herlsef and not others and he headed over to be with Sharon
Overall I know I should feel sorry for Zoe and her tragic life but truth be told most of it she brought on herself and she only has herself to blame I for one can't wait for her to leave
wow, essays! lol :D
Just reading these posts has made my eyes hurt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Birks_2k4
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Originally Posted by leanne27
i used to really like zoe but lately she has become a bit drippy and annoying! it will be sad to see her leave she is such a big part of the slater family. i agree she has been through so much espeically this year( even if some of it was bought on herself!) i do feel sorry for her that chrissie is telling her that she killed den when it wasnt, sam is to blame for that as well though amd im hoping that she will really go for sam when the truth comes out (not long!!)
i dont see why she needs to gwt reveng on dennis or sharon though! they were in love noone will take sharons place in dennis eyes! she stooped very low when she pretended tp be pregnant with his baby. and then sleeping with den i couldnt belive it! if anything it should be dennuis and sharon seeking revenge
To be honest it actually makes a refreshing change to see someone stick up for Zoe. I'm not really one way or the other on her, I don't hate the character. I think she was manipulated into a lot of her actions and I think she found herself in situations that she couldn't get out of and a lot of it was desperation. Some people might say she should have been stronger, but everyone has weaknesses. I don't think she should be vilified for it. I would have liked to have seen Zoe move on in her life and eventually see her happy but in reality it would kill her to see Sharon and Dennis happy together every day so its no surprise the character moves on.
In the beginning I like her, then she turned into a clingy, annoying b*tch, excuse my language. She acted as though she was so special how dare Dennis prefer Sharron, and that he had no right to like anyone but her. She constantly whines, and there is no end to how low she can stood. I agree she is a strong member of the cast, but she also grates on you...badly.
i'm sorry, i think i need to sit down, ur telling me that there are fans of Zoe Slater? omfg
well ok she was alright to begin with, after all "your not my mother, yes i am" would not be able to have happened without her but apart from that...
she had so much potential: an affair with Jamie MItchell, a lesbian relationship with Kelly, etc...
but the final nail in her coffin was splitting up Shannis, which everyone seems to like, dont get me started on that... id give her a medal for that but well thats why she became so unpopualr
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It's not just the shannis thing for me. I have disliked her from the second the girl stepped into Walford. As soon as she came, she chased Jaime like a lap dog (what’s new) despite him already being settled in a loving relationship with Sonia, and eventually she slept with him. This was all because she fancied him. I don't like the way she treated her best mate Kelly. She got with her ex from the second they split even knowing full well that Kelly was still hung up on him. It was all me, me, me. It didn't stop her and it infuriated me when she said 'get used to it or move out' -selfish mean cow! That’s only some of it. I can go on....
I like Zoe! I know that her voice is annoying after a while and when she cries she sounds whiny but apart from that....!
woooahh!!! wish i'd never made the post lol! the reason why i said zoe should get revenge on sharon and dennis is because sharon is so much more older and mature than zoe, and so is dennis, sharon could see that zoe was besotted with dennis, and STILL had her affair with him even though she knew it would ruin most people lives like zoe's, and den's and the rest of the watts family, the only people who would come out happy by it would of been them two! zoe, she was still young and nieve, and in the beginning sharon was very lenient with zoe, by telling dennis to be with her and you know what i didnt see dennis objecting! remember the time when dennis thought andy had hit zoe? and he went over there and punched him, well taht shows how much he cared fo her. and then when he found out that zoe had manipulated him just so she could seek her revenge on andy for her mum kat, well he then invited her to move in with him! it seems to me as though that when dennis discovered what zoe's plan had been (about the andy thing)manipulative he didnt care! so the rest of you shouldn't either (about her been manipulative) chrissie is also a hugely guilty party in the destruction of zoe's life, chrissie knew that zoe deep down wanted her baby, zoe kept on telling chrissie that the slater girls never got rid of their babies, she basically said to her that she didnt want an abortion, chrissie wouldn't even let zoe go fo a walk, whilst they were in the clinic cause she knew zoe would back out of it, no chrissie had to keep pushing and pushing her into it, SHE is the manipulative one, she even got sharon to come all the way from america just to hear what her dad was really like (that was evil!) chrissie only made zoe get rid of den's baby for her own petty revenge! she knew what den was like with all of his affairs so why stay with him? i can't forget that episode where chrissie took great pleasure in telling den that zoe had miscarried, i even felt a tiny bit sorry for him!. And den was the one who used sharon's infertility against her, HE gave zoe the idea about lying about the pregnancy and HE told her to go and speak to sharon on xmas day, zoe was just the puppet in her and den's relasonship. Zoe hasn't come out of this at all well, she has lost her baby, lost dennis, thinks she has killed den, has made an enemy of chrissie, thinks sam is her friend, and is soon to find out that sharon and dennis are now together. And if sharon and dennis were so in love then why did they keep splitting up? and getting back together again, even before zoe came on the scene, sharon often told dennis that she wasn't interested she has messed him around somehting rotten! and zoe has only ever loved him, she slept with dirty den! was willing to have a baby at such a young age just to keep him. oh and why did someone mention zoe's nastiness to stacey, have you heard some of the things she has said to zoe? stacey is a pure bitch who gets off on peoples unhappiness, she even tried to split up zoe and dennis, and so i dont blame zoe for going mad at her then!
i appreciate the strong opposition though! lol it's good to know loads have different opinions on the whole shannis and zonnis storylines.
Woah, this thread is full of essays! I'm not complaining though, they're really good to read!
Sharon is older and more mature that Zoe, but Dennis isn't. He is in fact an immature character. I think Sharon knew that it wouldn't ruin her life. At the end of the day, Dennis was not Zoe’s husband and she didn't have his child. It was all a one way relationship so by her pursuing him, she knew that in the long run, Zoe wouldn't lose an enormous amount. Anyway how many times has Zoe been in love now? -Jaimie, Anthony, Ronny, Dennis...Quote:
Originally Posted by leanne27
Maybe Sharon and Dennis would have been happy but that didn't mean that it would have been easy for them. There was always that sheer opposition from their family and they did lack a lot of support. The only likely allays they had was Dot and maybe Chrissie on some level but thats about it.
Dennis did object to Zoe massively in the beginiing. He was ignoring her texts told her that it was like a fling. Also he told Zoe in front of her that he thought of Sharon. This was when they were dating. The negative thing that Dennis did was move in with her. That was a mistake and I can see why Zoe would think that he was serious about her. However before that he left her for 5 weeks no word no warning and just up and left. She jumped straight into bed with him with no complaints as soon as he got back. He treated her badly but Zoe's stupidity and patheticness are as much to blame. He has been clear several times.
I won't dispute that Dennis cared for, I genuinely believe that he did, but love her - definitely not. It was obvious that she was second best to Sharon and nothing more than a safe easy option. Dennis went mental at Andy because he did genuinely care for but also livid with Andy as well because they have always had this love/hate relationship. Dennis grew to become fond of Zoe but what that was it. Their relationship was quite flat and very much one sided.
When Dennis invited Zoe to move in with him it wasn’t because she was playing little miss manipulative because of the Kat situation, it was what Andy said. If you remember the scenes when Dennis punched Andy and then calmed down Andy started to harp on about his feelings about Sharon. He said 'It's Sharon you want, everyone knows it, even Zoe must' and then 'tell me you don't think about Sharon when you are in bed with her?' Dennis was very quiet, ignored him and left. When he got home he was staring heavily at the picture of him and Sharon. It was obvious that Andy’s words were influential to his next decision. By him moving her in, it was yet another attempt to forget about Sharon, in a desperate bid that his feelings will go away and by having Zoe around things would get easier.
Chrissie is manipulative but it was Zoe who signed the paper in the end and made that choice. This is what annoys me about Zoe -she never can take responsibility for her own actions. She forces it on others time and time again. It was the same with Den 'you ruined m life'.. 'I hate you' Change the record the old one is getting knackered. Zoe allowed her self to get manipulated and could have pulled out on any time but she didn't because she was desperate to keep Dennis, not thinking about him but herself. Den didn't make her do anything she didn't want to do and just like he said 'you would do anything to get what you wanted.' He was dead right. I hate Den for what he has done, don’t get me wrong but Zoë does bear a lot of responsibility here. She was consumed with what she could gain/lose by doing the deed. Like you've said 'HE told her...' but since when has Zoe been his performing seal? She is her own person and at 21 should be able to make her own choice. When Michelle Fowler got pregnant at 16 by Den, she was minor so I could sympathise with her and she was genuinely lonely. Zoe though is an adult and only though about herself in this.
Sharon and Dennis's main reason for splitting up was because of their family. There is no doubt that they love each other but Den was never going to allow them to be together and eventually Dennis chose family over Sharon and dumped her but he later regretted it when he realised that she was far more important. By then though it was too late because she didn't want to be hurt again so she rejected him which was quite understandable but Sharon never stopped loving Dennis and visa versa. However, yet again their feelings caved in which was naturally going to happen considering how deeply they felt for each other. What Sharon and Dennis have/had is real. They have been through hell and back and the leaving scenes at Christmas showed how torn they were about letting each other go. I don't even think that Zoe loved Dennis. I saw it more of a teenage infatuation that turned really obsessive. Zoe never slept with Den because she loved Dennis but merely so she could keep him. Sharon on the other hand let the man she loved go he could be a father. She thought about the welfare of his unborn child. That’s something that Zoe could never do -love someone enough to let them go.
Stacey has been horrible to Zoe and she can be a right bitch but half the stuff she comes out with is spot on. I’m glad someone in the square can see past her 'princess' and 'I'm so innocent ways'
Ooops, wrote an essay again! Kind of used to it now!
lol, well i really don't think we'll be able to agree on this, so im not going to write another long, long piece explaining why zoe has done what she has done, i just hope that when she leaves she feels better about herself than she has done over these past few months, she is a much better person than she has been acting, and we see this side of zoe, when we see her with kat or her family, and if michelle ryan ever does decide to return to the square i hope she comes back like a real slater gal! really confident and in contol of her own life again, she is a very strong person who should not let herself be manipulated by others... such as den and chrissie or sam... im just hoping that kat will help her sort her life out before she leaves.
*tried to keep it shorter this time lol, though i think ive argued my case well for a 14 year old! dont know where i got the leanne 27 from though! lol
I like Zoe.
She was great when Kat told her that she was her mum and Harry was her dad and when she found out about Kat and Anthony. She just got boring when she got together with Dennis. But you can't forget about how brilliant she was before that. She used to be fun and up for laugh but nowadays she just mopes about.
thanks princess! glad to see somebody agrees with me!
For a 14 year old you have argued you case extreamly well. :)
Well I've taken a dislike tlo her character from pretty much the begining so my view on her isn't a bias one due to being passionate shannis fan. However I will admit that her character was better to watch before she got invloved with Dennis. Her relationship with Dennis hasn't done her characer any favoures and I'm dismayed that ee decided to implement her in the storyline in the first place. Before she got invloved the story was brilliant but as soon as it turned into a love triangle (with her central to that) it lost it's momentum.
I never classed as brilliant though and I've never really warmed to her. I won't be sad to see her go but good luck to Michelle. :)
Yeah before Dennis she was good.. she was sweet, cheeky and typical teenager but she turned into a snivelling wreck with Dennis.. I hate when she tried to be Kat, it is not herQuote:
Originally Posted by Princess
Her exit will be good and I have to admit, i am getting sick of her moaning all the time.
I hate Shannis.... so I'm glad she split them up..... if only for a little while!!! :thumbsup:
This is one of the reasons why my original dislike for her increased immensly :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by kelly05
It seams people want her burn on a stake in the Vic. I think its really unfair as i've said on the Shannis thread Dennis and Sharon were not totall blameless in the whole torried (and boring) affair
(awaits backlash from Shannis Fans :) )
would I do that! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by judejude
I think you know how I feel on the subject anyway so I won't go into too much detail. I agree with you point about Sharon and Dennis but I don't think it balances out to what she did. I'm sick of people in the sqaure thinking that she can do no wrong. :rolleyes: The affair got boreing because it dragged and character consistancey went straight out the window from May onwards.
bah its not about zossis lol or whatever u called it
kat is gonna murder dennis though i think lmao