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The storyline is still boring
They're better characters now.Quote:
Originally Posted by phils little sister
We can see them in more normal situations that we can relate to better than the constant sneaking around.
Yes that's what I like about them now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carrie Bradshaw
it is at the moment but the proposal, marraige and ivf should add a bit of spice to the already brilliant shannis!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by phils little sister
bondboffin
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Originally Posted by bondboffin
Hiya!!!!!
I Absolutely Loveeeeeeee Shannis,And I Absolutely Can Not Wait Untill The Proposal,Marraige,And IVF Storylines!!!!!
They Will All Be Absoltuely Great,Just Like Fantastic Shannis!!!!!
It Is A Shame That The Day Of Dennis And Sharon´s Wedding Will Not Be A Very Happy Day Though,As Everybody Seems To Be Saying That Den´s Body Will Be Dug Up,Or Something On Their Wedding Day!!!!!
Love
:heart: Melanie :heart:
yeah it was in the sun yesteray and i believe it because people have said this may hapopen for a long time...Quote:
Originally Posted by melanielovesdennisrickman
it will be a good storyline, i didnt want it to go on for much longer as it would have ruined sam and chrissie constantly worrying and stressing etc
its a shame that it happens on their wedding day but it just shows shannis is cursed, nothing goes right for them, which makes them such a brillaint couple if they can take what life throws them and become stronger from it
bondboffin
They used to be painful before they both took breaks but they're much better now :D I hated the whole forbidden love thing in the end. Den sort of re-became involved but we still had Zonnis.
The forbidden love got sidelined in April of last year then it was full blown shannis vs Zonnis for 8 long months. I beleive that, more than anything, really took its toll on the viewers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
Towards the end Den became involved at christmas etc but Zonnis was already too involved and the storyline was a borefest. They're much better now though :D
for me, zonnis completely ruined that storyline! the whole zoe/dennis/sharon love triangle was so pathetic. it got really boring then and i blame zoe! not just because im shannis fan but she was just so stupid, and it made sharon look really desperate. they are much better now, like someone else said, they are in normal situations so we can adapt to them better. everyone else in the square doesnt seem to have a problem with them now though(apart from kat) thats a bit strange.....
Really? I blame the writers and production team at EastEnders.
No one in Walford had a problem with it because not everyone in Walford could see what was going on behind the scenes with Dennis and Sharon.
I hated it until they've come back this month.
Zoe is an innocent victim :D
Are you trying to provoke me! :lol: No she isn't!Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
Nah Shazza summed up in the Slater mansions kitchen.Quote:
Originally Posted by squarelady
"We're none of us innocent here and you certainly aint"
That's fair do you agree?
No Zoe is not a victim, she slept with Den voluntarily. Den certainly was the driving force in the situation, but Zoe didn't have to go through with his plan. I think the love she had for Dennis clouded her judgement, but that's no excuse for the way she behaved. Although I do feel a bit sorry for Zoe and glad that Dennis left it on good terms with her. It was a lot more Den's fault than it was hers, and I know that Dennis realised that.Quote:
Originally Posted by squarelady
Den was a pervert :D
Here here, he was a dirty old manQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
That doesn't excuse Zoe for what she did. After Chrissie had been so good to her, to just betray her and Dennis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
Dennis had hardly been good to her though has he? Yes he'd agreed to stand by her and her phantom baby but he'd strung her along for ages and then cheated on her.Quote:
Originally Posted by squarelady
He just took advantage of a vunerable woman, and thats not on under any circumstance.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
Zoe was naive. She believed Den's plan could work and let her be happy.
Zoe innocent? Pull the other one. The other ones got bells on it :lol: :rotfl:
She made her bed and her choices were far from innocent
Dennis wasn't innocent either, neither was Sharon’s but I don't think a 2 week affair balances out to a life time deception that she and Den were planning. They were planning to come clean very soon, can the same be said for her?
No one is blameless but Zoe is not the victim throughout the whole mess- maybe to Chrissies manipulation but not the rest. When she dated Dennis she knew his reputation and he warned her several times that he would hurt her and told her to her face that he didn't love her.
I can’t justify what she did just because of Dennis’ actions. People get cheated on everyday -that doesn't mean they jump into bed with their boyfriend’s dad and deliberately impregnate themselves with his baby. It was a selfish, heartless and desperate choice and something I would expect from a 15 year old, not someone soon to be 21.
Zoe had no care in the world that he was married. Chrissie even bought her a children’s book and told her about wanting children herself. She was the only friend to her after Sharon left at Christmas.
You're right QV when Sharon said 'none of us are innocent here and you certainly aint'.
This certainly applied...
He never strung her along, he made it very clear to her that he loved Sharon right from the start. Zoe admitted that to him before she left!Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
Yes but he made Zoe believe that he wasn't going to leave her for Sharon. If he truly did want to be with Sharon more than her he should have told her in the first place and nipped it in the bud before Zoe became so hooked on him that she had to keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by squarelady
I think Dennis was very much a HORNDOG.. and I remember the same as walford queen said..if he was SOO MUCH IN LOVE WITH SHARON he would have kept her at arms length, so she was under the assumption.. so fell head over heels in love with him,, so really he did STRING HER ALONG,,,:wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
The thing I don't get is he was in love with Sharon and she was fighting for him. Where's the catch? It proves he was using Zoe and stringing her along.
exactly what i meant !!!! Dennis is still his Fathers son,, a horndog..:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
LOL :D Nasty individual :D
ive realiseed this thread which is meant to be for the brillain chrissie watts and kat moon has turned into one about zoe slater!!!
she knicks dennis off sharon, the albert square sign and now a forum about eastender's finest characters!!!
bondboffin
How can she nick somebody off someone? It's impossible especially when it's a grown adult with Dennis's strength, she hardly picked him up and put him in her pocket when Shazza wasn't looking now did she?
As for the sign it wasn't her that stole it but she did take it with her but I'm sure it's been replaced.
They probably didn't steal it. Gus works for he council anyway!
What Dennis did was wrong but it doesn't make him a nasty individual. Unlike his father, Dennis has a conscience and this was shown when he was with Zoe, although it doesn’t excuse is behaviour. I don't believe he was stringing her along (all the time), at least not intentionally.
Dennis never made any promises to her in the first 5 months of their relationship. However the whole way through their relationship she knew deep down where his heart stayed but it didn’t stop her from perusing him. He did show her many signs throughout the 8 month duration that insinuated he didn’t feel much for her, although arguably some of his words did make out that he did want to be with her. Basically he blowed hot and cold a lot of the time – but it was not one sided, that’s why I don’t consider it ‘stringing her along’. Dennis is guilty of a few things when it came to Zoe but the same can be said for her too. She is guilty of being so plain, how shall I put it- thick. May sound harsh but true. Dennis wasn’t the first either. She was like this with Jamie and Anthony too –thinking life was out of some girlie magazine, living in hope that she could be the one to make them change and for them to fall in love with her.
It was only after he returned from his 5 week break (in November) that he said that he wanted to be with her, because that’s what he genuinely believed (however he too is guilty of knowing where his heart belonged). I must say though how desperate is Zoe to take her knickers down to a bloke who dumped her unknowingly, made no contact in 5 weeks and then turns up with a pair of earrings as a cheap apology? She has no pride…
When he got back from his break he chose Zoe -not because he wanted to use her because he himself thought it could work and wanted to at least try and make a go of things with her. He wanted an easy and uncomplicated relationship. However this was very selfish of him because it was about meeting his needs, not hers. He also bears a lot of responsibility in how he continued to see Zoe while Sharon at the same time. There is no excuse for that and she simply didn’t deserve it. However unlike Zoe and Den, at least he was planning to come clean eventually and not carry on the affair for the next 30 years.
When I think back, I think Zoe got her medicine when it came to Dennis. She slept with Jamie when he was with Sonia (because she fancied him) and hooked up with her best mates ex (Ronny) from the second he dumped her, because SHE wanted him. She has shown very little regard for other peoples feelings in the past when it came to men so it was a case of 'what goes around comes around'.
In Stacey’s words 'you've got desperate bird written all over you.' :lol:
couldnt agree more Alisha! zoe is one desperate girl.
desperate people do desperate things,, ZOE WAS desperate. Most women ( yes even outside of soaps in real life) will do any thing to keep the man they love. Some one on this board once said they were trying to keep this British soap opera REAL,,,well then they made Zoe with real womans behaviors, so thats my take on this,, or as I always say,, my 2 euro cents worth:)Quote:
Originally Posted by hayzie
I don't see Zoe's behaviour mirroring real life, far from it.
In reality, a person like Zoe who has been played second fiddle to men and always ending up crying on the street, naturally mature from it and come out stronger not go backwards. It’s like a repetitive cycle for her character. This is why to me, I've always seen her character as one dimensional-never changing and if she does its one step forward and then three steps back. I think faking a pregnancy is something girls would do in real life to keep their bloke. I can see that happening but jumping into bed with their blokes father with the intention of getting pregnant, I cannot.
I didn't find the Zoe and Den storyline realistic in the slightest. It was a cheap plot which was contrived and based on pure sensationalism. It had a lot of criticism too.
Why can't everyone admit they were all wrong but Zoe was a victim in some ways?
zoe was a bore, I am so glad she is gone!!!!! she was such a victim over everything, life wasnt fait for her she got the worst punches, so what bye..... (im all heart lol)
Can we get back to the fact of OMG there is cracks in the concrete and the body is found on Shannis wedding day. Bet its phil that finds him and he finds him cuz sam is cracking up and he moves the body for her!!!