Jake Heaven

I think that Jakey just can't help himself he loves caring for people and being protective towards those whom he is cose to, this is possibly his downside he never thinks of his own happiness always of others first.

Chrissie in a way I can understand her behaviour and agree with some of what you both have said but I'm just not so sure about her being with Jakey anymore. Perhaps your right Jakey may be the one who keeps Chrissie in line.. As for my idea about Jakey and Kat, changed my mind as I was watching her with alfie the other night and thinking about her and Jakey together (see he's not even on screen and I'm still thinking about him LOL) and no I can't see it afterall. Kat and Alfie belong together.

I'm liking the idea of Jakey and Dawn Miller being together for a while, just a casual thing and then a new character being brought in, a childhood swetheart who is on the wild side and has lots of dark secrets, some of which Jakey already knows about...

I do think that TAO is absolutely fab and plays a wonderful part:)

Okay, I was rewatching the Thursday ep with Jake and Chrissie, and something struck me as strange:

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I can't count the amount of times that social services took us in. Some new foster parent telling us we were safe. But Danny was right. He didn't wanna be, but he was. Cos they did always send us back to Dad in the end.

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Does it seem weird to anyone else that it would be Danny who knew the score, not Jake? I'd have thought it would have at least been both of them.


Also watched last Monday's and remembered something I forgot to comment on: Johnny took Jake's phone?!? Okay, A) Why? What does he think Jake's gonna do, prank call him in the middle of the night, and B) How damn rude.

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Originally Posted by Babe14

I think that Jakey just can't help himself he loves caring for people and being protective towards those whom he is cose to, this is possibly his downside he never thinks of his own happiness always of others first.

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Yep, I think there are times when it's a good thing, and times when it's a bad thing. It's good that he's willing to look after Danny and support Chrissie, but at some point he needs to start thinking about himself. And I firmly believe that if Jake and Danny weren't going their seperate ways Jake would eventually be seriously hurt or killed trying to protect Danny.

I wish he was back now....

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

Okay, I was rewatching the Thursday ep with Jake and Chrissie, and something struck me as strange:


Does it seem weird to anyone else that it would be Danny who knew the score, not Jake? I'd have thought it would have at least been both of them.

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Um got me thinking about that one. At a guess I'd say that Danny just had an instinct and perhaps Jakey did too but didn't want to let one to Danny because he wanted him to feel safe...

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Also watched last Monday's and remembered something I forgot to comment on: Johnny took Jake's phone?!? Okay, A) Why? What does he think Jake's gonna do, prank call him in the middle of the night, and B) How damn rude.

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I think it probably fell out of Jakey's pocket when he was trying to get out of the car and therefore Johnny found it in the back whilst clearing away all "Evidence" so to speak.

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Originally Posted by .:SpIcYsPy:.

I wish he was back now....

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Me too. I'm really misisng Jakey and it seems like ages since he was in it. I missed him last time when he wasn't in it for yonks. Still at least this time we know that he will be back for good and we should be seeing lots and lots of him...

Nice for Joel to have the break so he can have a bit of a holiday and time to learn all his scripts:) Back in work now so at a guess I reckon we'll see him somewhere between the 21st August and 4th September...

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

And I firmly believe that if Jake and Danny weren't going their seperate ways Jake would eventually be seriously hurt or killed trying to protect Danny.

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No doubt about it. Jakey really needs to start thinking about his own happiness, perhaps after recent events Jakey will realise that things must change..

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Originally Posted by Babe14

No doubt about it. Jakey really needs to start thinking about his own happiness, perhaps after recent events Jakey will realise that things must change..

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Yeah, that's one thing I'm hoping to see change in his character when he comes back (not suddenly and unrealistically of course, a gradual character growth) -- I'd like to see him become more assertive of his own needs and happiness - not just when it comes to Danny, but with Chrissie as well.

I think that "whatever" is going to happen with Danny it will change Jakey slightly. Perhaps he'll have a bit more of his brutal streak in him when it comes to sensitive issues and being close with people. I'm not saying totally uncaring and unloving but he'll just be a bit more harder when it comes to "caring". Jakey will be hurting because of Danny, he got hurt by Danny and by Chrissie, when he had to leave the square, so he'll be a bit cautious about allowing himself to be close to anyone.

That would be an interesting approach to his return. At the moment it seems the general consensus is that he'll come rushing back for Chrissie to cry on his shoulder. What if he actually comes back for a different reason, and is quite cautious around Chrissie and starting things back up again with her. :searchme:

I think that however Jakey and Danny part ways, Jake will be upset about it, and probably still quite upset even if it occurs a while before Jake appears again. As much as Danny being around was messing up Jakey's life, they've always been there for each other and depended on each other, no matter how unhealthy that may have become. I think as much as Jake was a constant in Danny's life, Danny was a constant in his, and it's going to be hard for both of them to let that go.

Joel Beckett is nominated for Inside Soap Award's Sexiest Male. Up against Nigel Harman (who out of all of them would be my second choice), so he probably won't win, but it would be nice if he did. :wub:

I think you can vote online, text, phone or post.

I cant find anywhere to vote online. I may go buy the mag. HE wont win sdaly he should though. Joel Beckett is really sexy.

To vote by text the number is 81125 and the details to text is: IS MALE 3

I agree he won't win, but it would be so nice if he did. I hope he gets nominated for some awards at the BSAs next year. Hopefully something from an acting point of view as well, cos he ain't just a pretty face. :D :wub:

Thanks. Yeah he has acted so well recently. I am going to go get Inside Soap soon to see whats happening in it.
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He's also nominated for Best Newcomer. :cheer:



From the EE website:

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Lacey Turner who plays mischievous Stacey Slater, and Joel Beckett who plays the sensible half of the Moon brothers (Jake), are up to win Best Newcomer.

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Top totty, Joel Beckett and Nigel Harman (Dennis) are in the running for the Sexiest Male award. :)

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Sadly he probably wont win either, but finally some recognition!
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Well we can but try.

Text number for best newcomer is IS NEWCOMER 3 to 81125. :)

I was reading that this mornign, i'm sorry guys but my vote is going to Nigel!!! :wub:
But i will deffo vote for Jake for newcomer
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i miss Jake and Danny

Joel is gonna win, I've voted at least 5 times already!

Yes! Jakey for Best Newcomer and he should win sexiest male too, he has a gorgeous body. If he doesn't this time he defo will the next. Time to give up the title Nig.

My gut instincts for Joel are: Sexiest Male, Best Actor, Best Newcomer, Best Storyline (he defo should win something for his performance in the Moonie Exit Storyline he was just so fab..he is amazing)
If Joel doesn't win sexiest male this time I feel sure he will in the future after he becomes more established in the soap and his character develops even further, and hopefully we will see more "Naked" Jakey scenes..no one has gone that far I'm sure of it..
I still love Nig, he is great and a very good actor, but he has to come second to Joel as I feel that Joel is a truly amazing guy and an amazing actor..What's more I'm really missing him..

I'm so glad that Joel is finally getting some recognision and hopefully this is just the start...

Just voted online for "Our" Joel, tempted to see if I can vote again and again LOL

Apart from the Joel Nominations I did a mixture. Shame Joel hasn't been nominated for Best Actor too as I think he should of been, he was and has been truly amazing.

I can't believe Shane Richie is up for it again, O.K he is good but I hardly think that running around the square, up and down the stairs qualifies for a best actor award and personally I think that the character of Alfie is once again lost without Jake. They work well together but Alfie does not work on his own anymore.

I dont get why Alfie keeps being Nominated for best actor. He hasn't had any fabulous storylines. Oh yes Molfie deserves an award. I voted for Joel when I could and I voted Dot and Jim best couple. Cant wait for the results
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I voted once by text and once online -- both times for Joel in both nominations. :cheer:

I agree he should get sexiest male -- I just don't think he will if he's up against Nigel.

Cannot believe Shane Richie is up for Best Actor either -- he doesn't do anything, but be himself. I suppose Joel hasn't had enough to do this year to be up for Best Actor thanks to that fabulous disappearing act EE managed to pull ( :angry: ) -- next year though definitely as long as they don't waste him.

Shane was good in the past but not anymore, so I can't understand it either. The only reason I can think of is that it's because of the other actors such as Joel who make the character of Alfie work..

Yes I voted for Jim and Dot too , no competition there. A lot of the others that didn't involve Joel I voted for Emmerdale and one Corrie. If Corrie wins best soap then I#l know that it is a fix as it has really gone down hill.

My vote would be Emmerdale and Eastenders. I would like to see Emmerdale win as the last couple of episodes last week were fanatastic. I voted for Easties though, have to stay loyal to "Our" Joel and the Brannings..

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I voted once by text and once online -- both times for Joel in both nominations. :cheer:

I agree he should get sexiest male -- I just don't think he will if he's up against Nigel.

Cannot believe Shane Richie is up for Best Actor either -- he doesn't do anything, but be himself. I suppose Joel hasn't had enough to do this year to be up for Best Actor thanks to that fabulous disappearing act EE managed to pull ( :angry: ) -- next year though definitely as long as they don't waste him.

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If Nigel wins again it will be because he has been in the show longer, however I do feel that Joel's popularity (Sex symbol Status) is closing in rapidly on Nigel..

I'll be happy if Joel won Best Newcomer this year along with Sexiest Male and Best Actor next year. I agree with you about the reason why Joel hasn't been nominated as Best Actor it is purely because the charcter of Jake hasn't had enough time to develop to it's full potential yet. Also during the last two weeks of the "Exit" storyline we were only just beginning to see and get to know Joel's amazing acting ability...

I don't really watch the other soaps, so I voted for EE in most of them. The few times I've watched Corrie the past few months it has seemed...bad. I was quite baffled as to why some people are saying EE isn't up to their standards yet blah blah. I watched the Killer Katy storyline and couldn't stop laughing.

I love the phrase "Our" Joel by the way. :D Missing him so much at the moment. EE's good at the moment apart from a few off episodes, but I still want Jakey.

Cant wait to see the lovely tanned Joel back!
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Originally Posted by BlackKat

I love the phrase "Our" Joel by the way. :D Missing him so much at the moment. EE's good at the moment apart from a few off episodes, but I still want Jakey.

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Thanks :) I'm enjoying the Millers being in a central role as I really like them. Alfie/Mo/Kat is boring me, it just seems so stupid to have Alfie running around the square iike a headless chicken, in and out of houses, up and downstairs, mean would a man really act like that in reality? Can you see Jake behaving like that? No! Jake would just come clean and talk things through, not that he would ever let himself get into the mess that Alfie has in the first place.

Easties just seems so empty without Jakey, especailly the Moon household. Like I said I'm enjoying and do enjoy the other storylines and I have other characters who I really like but Jake just adds that I don't know what...

Still if all the action was centred around Jakey 24/7 it would be boring, not too mention that"Our" poor Joel would more than likely end up with burn out syndrome and it is necessary in all programmes to have a good mix. I'm really looking forward to seeing him back on screen and in a regular role, can't wait until he has another confrontation with Johnny. Also looking forward to Jake and Phil meeting..

So now that Nana is apparently going, who do we think Jake's main interaction is going to be with once Chrissie and Alfie have gone?

I think he's either going to be put with Dawn Miller, they'll bring in one or both of the parents, or possibily more stuff with Johnny -- not necessarily gangster stuff, but they can't ignore the fact that Johnny was a gangster even if he's now a reformed wuss. He did say he'd known Jake and Danny a long time didn't he - how long? A few years or since they were kids? It's just interesting that the reports on the exit storyline sometimes referred to Johnny seeing Jake like a son -- and before Johnny reformed they did seem to have a type of father/son relationship I think it could be interesting to explore -- especially in the aftermath of what happened in the woods.

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Originally Posted by Jake_Moon_Rox

Cant wait to see the lovely tanned Joel back!
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And I bet he will have a lovely one. Hopefully we will get a "Naked" tanned Jakey scene and not just a quick glimpse either..oh I've gone all weak at the thought Joel is just going to look even more gorgeous and sexy:wub:

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Originally Posted by Babe14

Still if all the action was centred around Jakey 24/7 it would be boring, not too mention that"Our" poor Joel would more than likely end up with burn out syndrome and it is necessary in all programmes to have a good mix. I'm really looking forward to seeing him back on screen and in a regular role, can't wait until he has another confrontation with Johnny. Also looking forward to Jake and Phil meeting..

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I agree. And also I think one of the things Alfie's character has suffered from is being pushed to the forefront all the time. He seems to be in most episodes, even if it's not a main part he'll be in the background, and I think people get sick of seeing them, and the character suffers because they just burn out. Don't want that to happen to Jakey, so I agree they should keep it with a nice mix of characters each getting their fair share. Just no more disappearing acts!

There have been people saying That Jake may not be staying for long though. In one article it said "Joel has recieved a short term reprieive" and when they were talking about Nana it said "she will have no family left" ! Pray this isn't true
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Originally Posted by Jake_Moon_Rox

There have been people saying That Jake may not be staying for long though. In one article it said "Joel has recieved a short term reprieive" and when they were talking about Nana it said "she will have no family left" ! Pray this isn't true
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The impression I got from most articles when Joel was saved was that it wasn't short term. That may have changed, but until we hear anything else I'm going to assume that for the meantime he's staying. And if rumours start circulating...well I'll cross the bridge when we come to it.

With Nana, I see her 'family' as Alfie, Spencer and Kat. Yes Jake is related to her, and yes he cares about her, but it isn't really the same. If they both stayed, it would just be Jake and Nana, and it would seem like they'd be trying to force a bond like Alfie and Nana's which I just haven't seen between her and Jake.

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Originally Posted by BlackKat

So now that Nana is apparently going, who do we think Jake's main interaction is going to be with once Chrissie and Alfie have gone?

I think he's either going to be put with Dawn Miller, they'll bring in one or both of the parents, or possibily more stuff with Johnny -- not necessarily gangster stuff, but they can't ignore the fact that Johnny was a gangster even if he's now a reformed wuss. He did say he'd known Jake and Danny a long time didn't he - how long? A few years or since they were kids? It's just interesting that the reports on the exit storyline sometimes referred to Johnny seeing Jake like a son -- and before Johnny reformed they did seem to have a type of father/son relationship I think it could be interesting to explore -- especially in the aftermath of what happened in the woods.

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That would be a nice little twist if Jakey turned out to be Johnny's son and Johnny didn't know..cue the mother

Oh I didn't know that Nana was going, that is sad I love her. So that will mean Jakey will be rattling around that house on his own..

I agree about Jakey being put with Dawn Miller, this will provide an interaction with the Millers and Jakey can be involved with their storylines. I have an instinct about Jake and Dawn.

Working at the bookies with Pat - again more storylines for Jake to be involved in.

Dennis and Jake becoming close mates - more storylines (first one the Andy death). Dennis and Phil are sworn enemies as I would imagine Jakey and Johnny will now be.

Jake and Chrissie until the end of the year.

New character being brought in an old childhood sweetheart of Jake's, fiesty, wild, lots of secrets, after a lot of grit and drama they rekindle the flame of passion on a permanent basis.

More Moons: The mum and some younger Moons whom Jakey could become a fatherly or big brother figure for. A couple of Boys, Girl/Boy

Perhaps Jakey and Joe (The builder) could become house mates, more storylines..

I think that little lot would keep Joel in work for a year or three LOL!

If Joel is only back on a short term reprieve there will be hell to pay. Surely they couldn't be so stupid after the recent attempt to axe the character? Personally I can't see Jake back only for a short time as he is very popular and Easties Top Totty. Easties is supposed to be going all sexed up and Joel was named in that article. I can't see Jake being put at the centre of the action then being shown the door AGAIN, unless Joel is on a short term contract as a mutal agreement to see how things pan out.

I'm saying rumour backing it by the fact that by the end of the autumn after all the big storylines which Joel would of been involved in, his status in the show will be a strong one, which I think it is already.

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Originally Posted by Babe14

That would be a nice little twist if Jakey turned out to be Johnny's son and Johnny didn't know..cue the mother

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I agree. I've had a feeling about this since...I think it was around Andy's death. My initial feelings was that Johnny did know, but now if it does happen I don't think he will know. Although, he may -- the night of the fire, he wasn't going to hurt Jake. Firstly he told him to go away when he got Danny in the car. Then he locked him in the car instead of bringing him with Danny -- I think he was planning to let Jake go unhurt. So did Johnny let Jake and Danny go because he had a sudden flash of conscience, or because he couldn't get at Danny without hurting Jake?

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Originally Posted by Babe14

If Joel is only back on a short term reprieve there will be hell to pay. Surely they couldn't be so stupid after the recent attempt to axe the character? Personally I can't see Jake back only for a short time as he is very popular and Easties Top Totty. Easties is supposed to be going all sexed up and Joel was named in that article. I can't see Jake being put at the centre of the action then being shown the door AGAIN, unless Joel is on a short term contract as a mutal agreement to see how things pan out.

I'm saying rumour backing it by the fact that by the end of the autumn after all the big storylines which Joel would of been involved in, his status in the show will be a strong one, which I think it is already.

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That's what I think -- they cannot be that stupid. Some people are saying that with Chrissie going, Jake has no storylines -- I don't believe this because they knew. They knew as soon as Chrissie killed Den that she might be leaving, and they still brought Jake back. I can't see them bringing him back with the intention of his storylines being a long term relationship with Chrissie, and then saying "Oops, Chrissie's leaving now, what are we going to do," because they knew. They knew Alfie was leaving as well by that point didn't they?

In the past though Johnny has threatened Jake. In the bookies he was talking to Jake about that race horse that fell and was destroyed, he warned Jakey not to fall again. Also when he wanted Jake to wrok for him Johnny told Jake that he was responsible for Danny..

Like you though I've a certain feeling about Jake and Johnny..

I think that Johnny let both boyslive because Jake hit Johnny where it hurt that night..but yes it could be because there is more to Johnny and Jake than meets the eye..

I think it would be dumb if they et rid of Jake so soon. I may just be able to except it if he goes off with a pregnant Chrissie, I may just be able to take that.

I don't think Jake is Johnny's son, it wouldn't really work
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