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26-11-2011, 02:31
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by megan999

Yes, good episode, except for Derek. IMO, I found his acting too over the top, and I didn't believe that he was Max, Jack and Carol's brother, he doesn't seem to fit in in my honest opinion :( and why was he bullying Pat?

Derek was OK. It's bald Max who's the odd one out
26-11-2011, 15:35
Katy

i dont mind Derek, i think hes quite good. He was a racist wasnt he when he was first in it and never got on with carol after she married billies dad, the name escapes me.

Cant remember what his problem with Pat is though.

Thought it was good last night. I thought the best scenes were when it was Tanya and Cora in the bedroom. Really well done and well acted.
26-11-2011, 15:46
parkerman

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Originally Posted by Katy

i dont mind Derek, i think hes quite good. He was a racist wasnt he when he was first in it and never got on with carol after she married billies dad, the name escapes me.

Cant remember what his problem with Pat is though.

Billie's dad's name is Alan.

Derek first appeared in Eastenders back in 1996 when he attended his sister April's wedding. Derek and Jim were both racists and started picking on Alan and trying to start fights with him. He did his best to try and split Carol and Alan up but did not succeed and Carol and Alan got married. Derek and Jim walked out of their wedding in protest but Derek continued to goad Carol and Alan after the ceremony. Carol retaliated by belittling him because he was still living at home at the age of 32. Derek subsequently attacked Alan, but was stopped by David Wicks, who then beat him up as revenge for Derek beating him up when they were teenagers. So that's Pat's problem with him.
26-11-2011, 16:00
lillabet

Carols daughter Bianca is David Wicks daughter, and that is the reason Derek first beat David for getting his sister pregnant
26-11-2011, 17:45
Katy

Alan! of course that was his name!

Thanks for the update
27-11-2011, 14:45
Dennis tanner

There is no propblem portraying racists in soaps as long as they don't get to win.
27-11-2011, 14:54
Dutchgirl

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

There is no propblem portraying racists in soaps as long as they don't get to win.

And even when they do it shouldn't be a problem. Soaps now and aggain do touch real issues. The homophobic Massoods are racists as well.
27-11-2011, 15:52
parkerman

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl

And even when they do it shouldn't be a problem. Soaps now and aggain do touch real issues. The homophobic Massoods are racists as well.

Since when have the Masoods been racists?
27-11-2011, 15:54
Dutchgirl

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Since when have the Masoods been racists?

You do not regard being homphobic as racist? Isn't exclusion based on gender racist? Maybe we could differ on that part.
27-11-2011, 16:00
parkerman

Of course it's not racist. Homosexuals are not a race apart. It sounds like you might have a few issues yourself there.
27-11-2011, 16:06
Dutchgirl

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Of course it's not racist. Homosexuals are not a race apart. It sounds like you might have a few issues yourself there.

Of course they are not a race a part. And I do not have issues. People are people whatever gender or colour. Maybe it is an interpretation on the word. I think we are closer on views than you think, maybe it is a language issue.
27-11-2011, 16:14
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl

And even when they do it shouldn't be a problem. Soaps now and aggain do touch real issues. The homophobic Massoods are racists as well.

If you class the Masoods as homophobic, you would have to class all Muslims as homophobic
27-11-2011, 17:40
Dutchgirl

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

If you class the Masoods as homophobic, you would have to class all Muslims as homophobic

Not sure why you have to. A rose is a flower but not al fowers are roses.
27-11-2011, 18:17
parkerman

Yes, I'm sorry, Dutchgirl. I apologise for my remark. I think language could be a problem here. Racism, as the word suggests, only applies to races. Homophobia, however detestable, repugnant and loathsome is not, and could never be classed as, racism.

I will agree with you however that Masood and Zainab are homophobic as are all Muslims who interpret the Qu'ran in the way they do. Sadly, many Christians are also homophobic because of their literal translation of the Bible.
27-11-2011, 19:05
xcarlyx

I could have cried when Tanya told Cora about how she helped her dad to die. It was nice to see a different side of Cora aswell.
28-11-2011, 12:27
Dazzle

Last week should have been called "Tanya week". Jo Joyner carried those episodes very well, making Tanya believable and sympathetic.
28-11-2011, 13:30
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by Dutchgirl

Not sure why you have to. A rose is a flower but not al fowers are roses.

A rose growing in my lawn would be a weed
28-11-2011, 13:31
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by parkerman

I will agree with you however that Masood and Zainab are homophobic as are all Muslims who interpret the Qu'ran in the way they do. Sadly, many Christians are also homophobic because of their literal translation of the Bible.

Agreed
28-11-2011, 15:08
tammyy2j

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Originally Posted by xcarlyx

I could have cried when Tanya told Cora about how she helped her dad to die. It was nice to see a different side of Cora aswell.

Their scene in the bedroom was very well done
28-11-2011, 19:19
xcarlyx

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Originally Posted by tammyy2j

Their scene in the bedroom was very well done

Was one of eastenders best scenes i think.
28-11-2011, 19:32
lizann

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Last week should have been called "Tanya week". Jo Joyner carried those episodes very well, making Tanya believable and sympathetic.

Yes I dont get when it was Branning week considering Tanya surname is Jessop and her family's name is Cross

+ 1 for Jo Joyner being excellent as was the actress who plays her mother
29-11-2011, 02:37
Dennis tanner

That Cora is one crap Cook. What has she been doing for the past 40 years?????
29-11-2011, 13:58
tammyy2j

Looks like Lauren is developing a drink problem but can she play an alcoholic as well as Phil is the question though

That Derek fella is scary even though his facial expressions are very like Popeye
29-11-2011, 16:56
megan999

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Originally Posted by tammyy2j

That Derek fella is scary even though his facial expressions are very like Popeye

That's funny :D I'm getting used to him, I think. I find him much scarier than Phil :p
29-11-2011, 18:51
sarah c

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Yes, I'm sorry, Dutchgirl. I apologise for my remark. I think language could be a problem here. Racism, as the word suggests, only applies to races. Homophobia, however detestable, repugnant and loathsome is not, and could never be classed as, racism.

I will agree with you however that Masood and Zainab are homophobic as are all Muslims who interpret the Qu'ran in the way they do. Sadly, many Christians are also homophobic because of their literal translation of the Bible.

I think the word dutch was looking for was bigot? thus covering homophobes, racists, sexists etc etc
29-11-2011, 19:18
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by megan999

That's funny :D I'm getting used to him, I think. I find him much scarier than Phil :p

I certainly hope he is scarier
29-11-2011, 19:35
xcarlyx

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Originally Posted by megan999

That's funny :D I'm getting used to him, I think. I find him much scarier than Phil :p

So do i, i think its his eyes.
29-11-2011, 21:22
lizann

Is Rainie living with Jack and Derek now?

I wanted Massod and Zainab to kiss and make up tonight
30-11-2011, 07:39
parkerman

Talking of the Masoods...

1. How does Mas find the time during the day to sit around in the cafe, go off and see Jane, go and see Zainab and do all the other things he does? Is his post round just Albert Square? Does he not deliver letters anywhere else? Does he never have to go to the sorting office?

2. Have the scriptwriters any idea what it is like to have a small toddler around? Oh yes, just put Kamil in front of a DVD, that'll keep him quiet! No need for parental supervision. Right!
02-12-2011, 12:53
Dutchgirl

Poor Zainab all is not well. Amira is getting spoiled again.

Derek worries me. Bad vibe( good acting though!)
02-12-2011, 14:16
tammyy2j

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Talking of the Masoods...

1. How does Mas find the time during the day to sit around in the cafe, go off and see Jane, go and see Zainab and do all the other things he does? Is his post round just Albert Square? Does he not deliver letters anywhere else? Does he never have to go to the sorting office?

2. Have the scriptwriters any idea what it is like to have a small toddler around? Oh yes, just put Kamil in front of a DVD, that'll keep him quiet! No need for parental supervision. Right!

At least Kamil gets mentioned and seen whereas poor Amy is missing quite a lot
02-12-2011, 20:37
lizann

I dont think I can take more of the Massods storyline without Christian - Yusef storyline really has dragged on but at least Afia knows the truth
03-12-2011, 07:34
xcarlyx

I hate Yusef so much he's vile.
03-12-2011, 08:29
parkerman

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Originally Posted by lizann

I dont think I can take more of the Massods storyline without Christian - Yusef storyline really has dragged on

I don't think I could take much more of the Masood storyline with or without Christian!
03-12-2011, 14:45
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Talking of the Masoods...

1. How does Mas find the time during the day to sit around in the cafe, go off and see Jane, go and see Zainab and do all the other things he does? Is his post round just Albert Square? Does he not deliver letters anywhere else? Does he never have to go to the sorting office?

He hasn't got many to deliver as Billy is still stealing them.
03-12-2011, 14:46
Dennis tanner

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Originally Posted by lizann

I dont think I can take more of the Massods storyline without Christian - Yusef storyline really has dragged on but at least Afia knows the truth

How do we know what the truth is?
03-12-2011, 16:42
JustJodi

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Originally Posted by Dennis tanner

He hasn't got many to deliver as Billy is still stealing them.

LOL I have to agree Dennis Tanner Billy may just be doing that LOL
03-12-2011, 16:44
JustJodi

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Originally Posted by lizann

Is Rainie living with Jack and Derek now?

I wanted Massod and Zainab to kiss and make up tonight

doesn't look like it happened,, he went straight to Jane and played tongue hockey....
03-12-2011, 16:45
JustJodi

Gang the subtitles went out on me just as Uncle Tarq told Afia about her dad,, or something what exactly did he say??? Thanks I know I can depend on U guys xooxox
03-12-2011, 17:48
Snagglepus

Yusef's Magic Coat.
How did he do that trick at his birthday party?
In the room he has no coat on, the lights dim and Zainab comes in with his birthday cake, his coat appears on him when he blows the candles out, next second his coat disappears again. Tommy Cooper never even managed to do that. Sheer Magic.

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