Erm ..... I dont know what you mean, typo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Yeah Im continuing with all 4 :eek: Its gonna be hard work
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Erm ..... I dont know what you mean, typo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Yeah Im continuing with all 4 :eek: Its gonna be hard work
Thanks and lol not quite, I know someone who got a A in biologyQuote:
Originally Posted by di marcowell done abbie :) and you must be a genius to get that in biology lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbie
And I meant to say 4 marks off a B not A :o, I was typing too quick and thinking about drama lol :p
C and 4 marks off of an A? Or are the boundaries very narrow?
Lol yes that part was a typo....I'll go change it nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
well you must be quite clever, even the clever people in my year only got Ds and Es in biology!Quote:
Originally Posted by AbbieThanks and lol not quite, I know someone who got a A in biologyQuote:
Originally Posted by di marcowell done abbie :) and you must be a genius to get that in biology lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbie
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Originally Posted by AbbieThanks and lol not quite, I know someone who got a A in biologyQuote:
Originally Posted by di marcowell done abbie :) and you must be a genius to get that in biology lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbie
And I meant to say 4 marks off a B not A :o, I was typing too quick and thinking about drama lol :p
Haha I agree Di M!
Well I had a U so my hat goes off to you Abbie :thumbsup:
doing 4 will be ok as long as you work hard. i carried on with 4 alevels and soon realised it was easier to cope if you organised work to do etc and as much as i hated it sat in the library in my frees lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AbbieErm ..... I dont know what you mean, typo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Yeah Im continuing with all 4 :eek: Its gonna be hard work
Yeah Im really gonna have to do that this year, but saying it is easier than doing it. I really hope I manage to stick to itQuote:
Originally Posted by di marcodoing 4 will be ok as long as you work hard. i carried on with 4 alevels and soon realised it was easier to cope if you organised work to do etc and as much as i hated it sat in the library in my frees lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AbbieErm ..... I dont know what you mean, typo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Yeah Im continuing with all 4 :eek: Its gonna be hard work
yeh it is lol! but luckily i had some of my friends sit in the library with me so it wasnt too bad, dont think id have done it very often if everyone else had been sitting in the common room lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by AbbieYeah Im really gonna have to do that this year, but saying it is easier than doing it. I really hope I manage to stick to itQuote:
Originally Posted by di marcodoing 4 will be ok as long as you work hard. i carried on with 4 alevels and soon realised it was easier to cope if you organised work to do etc and as much as i hated it sat in the library in my frees lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AbbieErm ..... I dont know what you mean, typo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
Yeah Im continuing with all 4 :eek: Its gonna be hard work
Lol yeah I might get my friends to come with me :p
A bit late with this but haven't been on for a while, congrats everyone (: Just reading through and looks like everyone's got really good results (: x
as usual I am late but
CONGRATULATIONS on every ones results, from the looks of things you guys have done well..:thumbsup:
Keep up the great work:D
Now I have my results, I have to start really looking at courses. Im sick of people nagging me though :(
I cannot agree with you more! It's like ARGH STOP! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbie
I know :(
Well Im gonna try tomorrow, I was gonna look tonight just out of boredom and curiousity but maybe not :p
its best to get it over with though, as its very stressful having to rush it later on
Well done everybody on your results you all did really well :)
I'm late in posting mine, but hers what I got:
additional science - c
graphics - c
english - c
english lit - b
georgraphy - d (not happy bout this one but I didnt like geo lol)
science - c
drama - c
pe - b
maths - c (100 % in both of my papers, but i did foundation)
ict - c
re - b (i have no idea how lol)
child care - b
well done samantha :) especially on getting 100% in mathsQuote:
Originally Posted by samantha nixon
Well done everyone on your results - they're all fantastic and you've all obviously worked very hard in gaining them.
One question - I've noticed a theme with regards to the Science subjects in that you've all found them or know people that have taken the individual Sciences and found them very difficult with many people not gaining a grade higher than a C.....are the individual Sciences "that" hard? Only my eldest son is wanting to take triple science because of the career path he's wanting to take.
im not sure, i did double science which wasnt that difficult i didnt think, we did each science separately with different teachers, different exams for each etc but only came out with 2 gcses instead of 3. and also we just got 2 of the same grade rather than varying grades like i think you get with triple science (although im not 100% sure). my school didnt give the option of doing triple science when i was there, all the boys schools though were made to do triple science, and a lot of them went on to do at least one science subject at alevel so they must have got at least a B in that subject to do it. so i dont know from personal experience how difficult it is to take but i do know quite a lot of people who did well in it to carry it on to alevel. also, one of my sis friend did triple science and got 3 AsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jojo
i do know, however, that alevel sciences most people tend to find difficult. the thing with taking triple science rather than double science at gcse is that if you take an alevel science the jump between gcse and alevel wont be as large cos you will have covered more stuff at gcse
The fuss that was made for him to be able to take triple science was astounding tbh - they weren't going to run a course to start with but because so many children wanted to do it, they've had to run it now. He is really looking forward to it and loves all things sciency anyway, which obviously is a help and then maybe it can help him decide which to take forward to A level...Quote:
Originally Posted by di marcoim not sure, i did double science which wasnt that difficult i didnt think, we did each science separately with different teachers, different exams for each etc but only came out with 2 gcses instead of 3. and also we just got 2 of the same grade rather than varying grades like i think you get with triple science (although im not 100% sure). my school didnt give the option of doing triple science when i was there, all the boys schools though were made to do triple science, and a lot of them went on to do at least one science subject at alevel so they must have got at least a B in that subject to do it. so i dont know from personal experience how difficult it is to take but i do know quite a lot of people who did well in it to carry it on to alevel. also, one of my sis friend did triple science and got 3 AsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jojo
i do know, however, that alevel sciences most people tend to find difficult. the thing with taking triple science rather than double science at gcse is that if you take an alevel science the jump between gcse and alevel wont be as large cos you will have covered more stuff at gcse
the amount of schools which dont want to cater for what the students want to do is appalling! my sis wanted to do food tech for alevel (something the school had always offered and said they were offering for her year), then they decided without telling the students that they werent going to offer it and put them down to do something else without even asking them! their excuse was that only 6 people wanted to do it which wasnt enough to run the course, even though theres only 8 ovens in each room so realistically you couldnt really have more than 8 people doing it anyway! yet they run music with only 3 people and physics for only 1 person!Quote:
Originally Posted by JojoThe fuss that was made for him to be able to take triple science was astounding tbh - they weren't going to run a course to start with but because so many children wanted to do it, they've had to run it now. He is really looking forward to it and loves all things sciency anyway, which obviously is a help and then maybe it can help him decide which to take forward to A level...Quote:
Originally Posted by di marcoim not sure, i did double science which wasnt that difficult i didnt think, we did each science separately with different teachers, different exams for each etc but only came out with 2 gcses instead of 3. and also we just got 2 of the same grade rather than varying grades like i think you get with triple science (although im not 100% sure). my school didnt give the option of doing triple science when i was there, all the boys schools though were made to do triple science, and a lot of them went on to do at least one science subject at alevel so they must have got at least a B in that subject to do it. so i dont know from personal experience how difficult it is to take but i do know quite a lot of people who did well in it to carry it on to alevel. also, one of my sis friend did triple science and got 3 AsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jojo
i do know, however, that alevel sciences most people tend to find difficult. the thing with taking triple science rather than double science at gcse is that if you take an alevel science the jump between gcse and alevel wont be as large cos you will have covered more stuff at gcse
im glad in the end your sons school decided to run triple science. i think the good thing about triple science is cos you get a separate grade for each science subject you can see which subject you are best at, whereas with double science you get an overall grade and so might be a lot worst at one of the sciences than you are at the other 2 but you wouldnt know. hope your son enjoys the course. what does he want to do with science afterwards, as you said it would help him with his career?
My eldest wants to do medicine and took physics, chemistry and biology at standard grade level (equivalent of GCSE).
In Scotland there is not the option of doing a combined science course, but there is still a reluctance on the part of schools to allow pupils to take 3 sciences. I went to a meeting at the school where the depute head said taking 3 sciences severely narrowed your child's future prospects etc etc.
My son did 3 sciences, and at higher level he is continuing two of them, with the intention of picking up physics again in sixth year.
My younger son is doing physics and chemistry, his other subjects are identical to my elders choices - English, Maths, French , History, Music but he is doing computing instead of biology. Strangely there is no objection to this combination.
Te depute teacher also gave incorrect advice on University courses to several parent whose children wanted to do dentistry and vet. medicine. 3 sciences are definitely required by some Scottish Universities to do these subjects.
There seems to be a bias against science in some schools.
I did Double Science GCSE and had to learn all three subjects seperately, but as diM said, you just came out with two GCSEs instead of three. I've never heard of people saying that Triple Science is massively harder though. He'll just learn more topics. You've got to think of it as being instead of doing Double Science + Geography (For example), he's doing 3 GCSEs in Science. He'll have to put in more work than those doing double science, because his is worth more. People have probably done worse in Triple Science in the past because they have put in the same work as someone doing Double Science, instead of doing more, which they have to.
Plus now, aren't science GCSEs modular? As in, you do a module, and you do an exam, instead of doing all the modules and having one huge exam at the end? Because that will make it a lot easier for him, especially as it sounds like he has a great head on him.
I did Double Award Science at GCSE and found it was very good in that it's just the right amount of information to take in, we did a module in the January and exam in June.
However, having said that, this year I took Biology at AS Level and found it so much more difficult to catch onto than my other friends who all took triple award science at GCSE as they'd already gone into that amount of detail whereas we hadn't so it was a big jump to go from I thought and I came out with a U and my other friends who took triple science the year before B-D's... but I'm not exactly the brainiest of people so I suppose it just depends on the individual and how they cope with work load and that :)
I have to say, I did Double Award science and took Biology AS and found it no problem, Infact I know people who took Triple science at GCSE an have done a sceince at AS and havent done as well as those who did the Double Award.
For me not choosing Triple science made no difference, but thats just me
Out of interest JoJo, what does he want to do in the future? Because most universities don't really look at what GCSEs you got. So as long as he has science in some form, whether it is double or triple won't affect him in the slightest. He just has to get the grades to do sciences at A Level, and then it will be the AS level grades they look at. Having said that, Oxford, Cambridge and LSE pay a lot of attention to GCSEs, and UCL, Kings and Imperial do to some extent. But it is the grades, rather than the subjects. If he is more likely to get A*A* at double science than A*A*A* at Triple, then maybe double is the way to go...
I know some colleges now only let you do a science A Level if you've done triple science. Maybe it's only the ones near me, though!
Yh it may be as it isnt like that around here, as you only need BB to do biology, not sure about chemisry and physics thoghQuote:
Originally Posted by Tori
my school also never offered us the chance to do biology, chemistry and physics seperately, we just got normal science, then additional science (top set) and additional applied, but we got seperate grades for each of the modules we got 2 for each science so ended up with 6 grades that got added together
I wish my school had done them seperately as my biology was good i got an A in one of the modules, but the physcis and chemistry brought it down for the first year, and the 2nd year was just hard :(
also if your son likes science jojo, I dont think he will find it hard, my cousin did 5 science gcse's (not sure whether seperate or what they were) and she did really well and so did most of the year
Wow! Really? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tori
ive not heard of that happening where i live. dont think they really could tbh as a lot of the schools dont offer triple scienceQuote:
Originally Posted by Tori
He wants to go into medicine although at the moment, he's considering which route to go down, but is airing more towards the surgery area. He's always wanted to do something in medicine and looking at his options, wasn't able to decide between which of the three he would really get his teeth into because they've all got areas that he's really interested in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abi
His first module exam is in January 09, then June 09, then January 10 and then June 10.
I don't know if it will be much help to you, but one of my friends was going to apply for Medicine this year. From what she told me, you have to have two sciences at A Level, and then two "hard" subjects. Something like Maths, English Literature, History etc. So if he does pick two in the end, they will have to be two that he is willing to carry on at A Level. So maybe looking at the A Level syllabuses would be good? Because if he's not going to be interested in them at A Level, then theres no point for him to do them at GCSE. One or two let you only do one science A Level, but the majority want two. And he will need a ton of work experience in the health care area, so if he got going on that now then it will be sooo much easier to write his personal statement. But that's a long way off, lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by JojoHe wants to go into medicine although at the moment, he's considering which route to go down, but is airing more towards the surgery area. He's always wanted to do something in medicine and looking at his options, wasn't able to decide between which of the three he would really get his teeth into because they've all got areas that he's really interested in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abi
His first module exam is in January 09, then June 09, then January 10 and then June 10.
The module exams will make it so much easier for him though. So triple science won't be as hard as they make out. He will only have to remember the topics for a matter of months, rather than untill the end of the year. Plus it will mean that if he suddenly hates Physics (for example) then it won't matter too much, because he can just do Biology and Chem A Level.
My friend did triple Science at GCSE and got a B in Biology, C in Chemistry and D in Physics. She resat 1 module of Biology and 1 module of Chemistry during the course. This was at a school with figures of under the average for the county, though. I think it also depends on what you go into it with; she got a 6.4 in her Science SAT, the minimum her school would allow a pupil to take triple science with. I don't think she put a great deal of effort in when it came to revision either, so all of those factors influenced her grades and could mean that your son does a lot better providing he is in better circumstances starting the course and puts in his best effort.
Also, this friend and I often discussed the modules that we did. She did every module that I did for my 2 GCSE's in Science, just one more unit for each science beyond that I think. Unless that's majorly difficult I don't think triple is that much harder than double. I did better than my friend in the modules that we both did, so I think it all depends on ability as indicated by the SAT and the effort that the individual puts in. After a 7 in the SAT I got 3A*'s in modules in the first year, which were pulled down to a high A by one module I scraped an A in and my ISA which was a middle A. My friend got B's, C's and 1D in modules in the first year, but got an A* and A in the ones she resat because she put in more effort as she knew she'd messed up the first time round.
He's also doing higher level Maths and taking History along with his other option choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbiI don't know if it will be much help to you, but one of my friends was going to apply for Medicine this year. From what she told me, you have to have two sciences at A Level, and then two "hard" subjects. Something like Maths, English Literature, History etc. So if he does pick two in the end, they will have to be two that he is willing to carry on at A Level. So maybe looking at the A Level syllabuses would be good? Because if he's not going to be interested in them at A Level, then theres no point for him to do them at GCSE. One or two let you only do one science A Level, but the majority want two. And he will need a ton of work experience in the health care area, so if he got going on that now then it will be sooo much easier to write his personal statement. But that's a long way off, lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by JojoHe wants to go into medicine although at the moment, he's considering which route to go down, but is airing more towards the surgery area. He's always wanted to do something in medicine and looking at his options, wasn't able to decide between which of the three he would really get his teeth into because they've all got areas that he's really interested in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abi
His first module exam is in January 09, then June 09, then January 10 and then June 10.
The module exams will make it so much easier for him though. So triple science won't be as hard as they make out. He will only have to remember the topics for a matter of months, rather than untill the end of the year. Plus it will mean that if he suddenly hates Physics (for example) then it won't matter too much, because he can just do Biology and Chem A Level.
In his Yr10 SATS he got a level 8 for his Maths, level 7 for his Science and level 7 for his English and English Lit. I think its this year that he does work experience also, so will have a look into where he may be able to do that, to maybe gain an insight.
TBH thats one thing that does concern me as up till now he hasn't done much revision, to gain the results that he has in his normal class tests and his SATS, which I've said to him will have to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
He also gets a lot of bullying from classmates and supposed friends and this year, the school have decided to change his tutor group, which has seemingly lumped him into the same tutor group as those who have done some of the bullying. He is happy to stay there for the moment and see how it goes, but I've told him I'll be on the phone/down to the school if it doesn't work for him. I don't understand why they've felt the need to do this tbh as he no longer has any of his so called friends in the same tutor group anymore.
Medicine is one of the few course where GCSEs really count. Most English Universities use them to distinguish between the many candidates with 4 A passes at A level.
Chemistry is the main science requirement, but many candidates take 3 sciences at A level. The general studies A level is not counted if you are applying for medicine.
Dr Tangliss's forum ( see link in here signature) is really good for anyone thinking of applying to medicine, and as I have mentioned before the ucas webite - ucas.com is esssential reading. If you do a subject search you can then look at all the Universities that offer the subject, the entry requirements etc. Some also have links to info about have they choose applicants and what the non- academic requirements are.
You are recommended to do Duke of Edinburgh Gold, volunteer at old folks home/hospital, do work experience in a caring environment, take part is extra curricular activities such as sport and music etc, etc.
Apparently they want smart high achievers who are demonstrably caring, interested in medicine and society in general and well rounded.
Not a short list of requirements!
With regards to bullying - nip it in the bud now.
My son was being bullied by the same people in physics and French, he wouldn't let me contact the school in case I made it worse.
He got Bs in both those subjects, and I don't think it is a coincidence.
His physics jotter was ripped to shreads with scribbles and obcene drawing etc, his book was stolen, his stuff chucked around the class etc etc etc.
By the time it got to the exams he had no notes to study and was totally behind.
I've tried to talk to my eldest, but like yours, doesn't want to make the situation worse. Plus, his school has this "wonderful" policy of bringing the bullied and the bully together in a meeting and ask the bully why he's doing it, how its upsetting the bullied etc, which then does make the situation entirely worse. I've told my son to tell me how he feels about being in that tutor group by the end of this week (he goes back tomorrow) and I'll be knocking heads together if something isn't changed at my request. He is a high achiever, who has been left to get on with his work, instead of being pushed forwards, something which I've raised on numerous occasions with his tutor - but then the whole tutor system means its a whole, he says/she says situation. Before long, I would be removing him from the school, but unfortunately our choices are very limited, they're all basically v bad schools in our area with under 50% achieving 5 or more A-C grades. MY only other option is private schooling, but I can't afford £16k per year, and would have to follow through the same treatment for my other 3, and that I couldn't even think about affording. It riles me, it really does, but to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what else I can do. However, should it be carrying on this year, I shall be speaking to the LEA as I've found a lot of happenings totally unacceptable and considering the school received a "Good" OFSTED report last year, something is terribly wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity
Sorry - totally off topic from results received by other members.
I left it for the whole of 4th year.
He started 5th year just before the summer and the 'main' bully is unfortunately still in his classes for Higher. In one of his subjects a friend of his was making his way to sit beside my son, and the bully pushed her out of the way and took the seat. I was so worried that I contacted the school, but when the guidance teacher spoke to my son he said that there was no problem and to leave it.
My son has dropped physics and french and hopefully the teachers in the subjects he is doing now have a better control over what is going on in their classes and there will not be a problem, but I think that is wishful thinking.