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The DS interview with Matt di Angelo which has got us all talking is apparently taken from a longer interview with him in Inside Soap. I've seen it said on social media (though I can't confirm this) that in the extended interview Matt says Dean will still get his planned comeuppance - but it's been delayed for the time being.
If this is true I can't say it makes me feel much better, as what's to stop DTC from keeping extending Matt's contract forever? After all, we didn't expect it to go on as long as it already has. In the meantime we're forced to watch Dean get on with normal life - and he's a major character with a lot of screen time - with no guarantee we'll get a satisfactory outcome at the end of it.
Maybe all the outrage will force DTC's bosses at the BBC to take action? We can only hope... :searchme:Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Do they know there is outrage amongst viewers? Where is it expressed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
On Facebook, Twitter and other soap forums. The majority of opinions voiced agree with us, so there's no way DTC and his team are unaware of the disquiet at Dean's continuing presence. Whether they care is the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I think the only thing that will concentrateQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
their minds is if viewing figures start to
noticably slip.I had been wondering if you
or another forum.member knew if figures
for say last few weeks were on average
less than previous few months.
Can find figures for odd episodes but not
trends.
Thanks -in advance-if anyone has any info.
I did also.wonder if people who complain
on.Twitter etc would also complain to BBC
direct or to Ofcom-I think - may be wrong
that BBC would only take note of official
complaints ?!
Dupl
According to BARB ratings for the week ending 7th June 2015, EE's Monday episode out-performed both of Corrie's Monday episodes - which is unusual I believe. Eastenders usually appears several times in the top 5 most watch programmes so there's been no radical slipping of ratings so far. I'm guessing most long-term viewers won't feel strongly enough to give up their fix altogether (myself included http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...ashamed001.gif) even if they're disgusted at the Dean situation.
http://www.barb.co.uk/
As for complaints - who knows - but anyone with any vested interest in EE at the moment must be aware that lots of viewers aren't happy. :wall:
so just as he is proven as jade's real dad, he thinks he can just get her, him and shirley cant take her
Somehow I think she will be on Albert Square before you know it!
Not after watching tonight's ep. What a big baby dean is!
Not long now till Dean's "comeuppance". I reckon another 10 or 20 years should do it....
Phew! Not long to wait then... http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-140297.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Dean will go out at the same time as DTC I reckon. On average that'll be in a year and a half. Hope someone comes to their senses re: both.
Supposed to be this xmas special. After all, what's an Eastenders xmas special without a tragedy? I'm guessing that after months of custody battles and talks, Dean will finally have his daughter Jade come home with him, and by this time he will also have developed a fatherly love for her, only for her to die just as soon as she's home.
So a tragedy for Dean and his comeuppance.....oh, hang on a moment, why are Shabnam, Shirley, Buster, Masood , her foster father and sister and Jade herself all due a comeuppance? What did they all do?
To be honest I wouldn't include Shirley in that list. Although I understand her belief in Dean (even though the writers seem to want us to forget she had her doubts at one stage), her harassment of Linda and Mick has been inexcusable. She needs a comeuppance of her own in my opinion (though obviously I don't think it should be Jade's death).Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Thanks for putting Shirley in a seperate category.!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Ive never liked her-so thought it was just me.
To me she has behaved very badly to Linda
and Mick but to several others before them.
I dont think.you can ignore persistent
nastiness & cruelty - and in.real life people
dont forget such actions.
Thanks for putting Shirley in a seperate category.!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzle
Ive never liked her-so thought it was just me.
To me she has behaved very badly to Linda
and Mick but to several others before them.
I dont think.you can ignore persistent
nastiness & cruelty - and in.real life people
dont forget such actions.
No, I don't believe for a second Linda and Mick would ever forgive her behaviour in real life, but we know they will - probably sooner rather than later.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidmarian
I would put Buster in line for a comeuppance too. He knew Shirley was in a relationship with/married to Kevin and yet still slept with her to conceive Dean. At Carly's christening! How trashy.
He seems perfectly happy to pick up as Dad and I don't recall any gratitude towards Kevin for raising his son after Shirley abandoned them, or for always treating him as one of his own.
Dean and Shirley deserve the most by a long way.
I can understand the feelings about Shirley and Buster but personally I wouldn't put what they've done in the same category as rape.
No definitely not. Shirley needs to face the consequences of her actions but in no way is she in the same category as Dean (who I wouldn't be in the least bit sorry to see dead).Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
As far as Buster goes, everything Kim says above is true but he scored a lot of points with me by persuading Dean he shouldn't be a dad to Jade.
Agreed, Dazzle.
The point I was really trying to make though is that if Jade dying just as Dean has accepted her is his supposed comeuppance, I will not be happy!!!:angry::angry::angry:
Unfortunately, I fear that will be the best comeuppance we can hope for, unless he grows a conscience and confesses, because there's no other way he can be arrested. The police have said they have no evidence, he's been cleared due to a lack of, and realistically this is sadly what would happen in real life, which is what Eastenders is all about (writing soap drama, but keeping it as realistic as possible).
Yes, I appreciate that, ss1, but my beef with that as his comeuppance would be the number of other people that would affect as well. It's hardly singling him out for "justice".
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Also, it feels awfully predictable. The average survival age is into adulthood these days so I would sooner that Dean be disposed of somehow and we see more of the reality for someone living with the condition.
Yes, I understand, too. Unfortunately, like I said, it's probably the best we can hope for as punishment for Dean, sad though it is for everyone else.
Yes, they say with today's medical expertise, people with CF born in the 21st century can live up to 50. Unfortunately, it only takes one mistake or a bad infection to cause a patient to die from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim
there must be some way that even tho heQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
wont confess and there is no legal justice-
that local people know he is guilty and he is
ostracised to such an extent he has to
move away.
Better than a child being seriously ill and
possibly dying and her family being affected??
Its not true punishment but better than
what seems likely to happen?!
dupl
That would be preferable, but I highly doubt it. Eastenders never has a xmas without some big tragedy happening.
I dont think it likely either ss1-but it showsQuote:
Originally Posted by storyseeker1
how flawed the judgement of those who
make these decisions is!
A tragedy or event portrayed for dramatic effect
(.and ratings) is different to this potential
scenario.
I think its the fact it involves
a child that causes the most concern .
Raising awareness of a serious illness
and portraying it as a form of punishment
are two very different things .
The latter is inexcusable and cruel.
I still have (a very faint) hope that there will
be a rethink.!!
dupl
While I'm not against some form of karma for Dean (since it seems unlikely we're going to get any other kind of justice), it needs to be directly related to the rape to be a fitting punishment. Like MM says, if he were found out in some way and ostracised from his family and the community (and from Jade's life), I'd accept that because it would be directly down to what he did to Linda. Also, I know I keep saying it, but the community need to be left in no doubt that he's guilty for Linda's sake.
I've seen speculation elsewhere that Ronnie's cameras might come into play in some way since he's seeing Roxy and spending time at her house. The cameras are still there as far as we know so there's a possibility he could be caught on camera either saying or doing something to implicate himself.
ronnie could kill him like she did roxy's other fella carl
I think this could possibly make me start liking Ronnie again...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I wouldn't put it past her.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizann
I've never stopped liking her but she'd definitely go up even higher in my estimation. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
The problem with all these "solutions" to the Dean problem such as Jade dying, Ronnie killing him etc. etc., is that his rape is still not exposed and leaves a doubt that Linda is telling the truth. Any solution MUST include a confession from Dean in one form or another.
I'm hoping Ronnie records him implicating himself on camera and exposes the truth to the community. If she kills him it'll be an added bonus! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...ppy-514478.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
Actually I think it would be better if he was exposed as the rapist he is and then had to live with the fact that everyone knows. I'd personally prefer that as a punishment than having him killed off.