I don't think we will actually see a lot of them together though so if that's what you're expecting I wouldn't. I'm fairly sure week 10 will have Aaron stopping Robert from visiting.
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So the wedding isn't technically legal. I'm not that bothered as such but a bit confused how this changes anything between them as a couple and them as a family (with Liv). Standing there saying words which Robert has said to Aaron In the past many times and Aaron's hasn't entirely believed leaves me wondering why on this occasion Aaron will. The Liv issue she'll not be any more Robert's family than she currently is in terms of the law or social services.
I just find it all a bit odd to make such a fuss over their wedding months in advance when it's not really a wedding, it's just a commitment ceremony. They could have made this clear from the off with the intention to have it made legal ASAP instead of promoting it actively as a wedding.
I'm really looking forward to next week's episodes because they will feature plenty of Aaron and Robert and other of my favourite characters. :)
But, as far as I am concerned IM has fooled and cheated me and has been doing so for several months. :mad::mad::mad:
What makes this even worse is that Emmerdale have had the utter nerve to promote this as a gay wedding. How dare they do that?
It is not a wedding. It's just a party with a wedding theme and I am thoroughly cheesed off. :mad:
hiya im ok with it Robert Dingle would be good if it been Robert SugdenDingle but really really looking forward to the wedding and we be getting some lovley romantic scenes and a nice kiss when they say i do and like you say i think Aaron be out around end of March or early April and they built a new set for Mill Cott for there new home and if Aaron stops Rob from seeing that will make Rob more angry and Finn better watch out hes lost his husband and his love and soulmate Danny+Ryan will be amazing to watch lets all stay postive and Robron will come out it s/l much stronger
I am in wait and see mode, I would find it dreadful if they have promised a wedding and by the time :ninja: goes to jail they are not married.
I wonder if they have the legal papers (arranged pre-Vegas) and :cartman: manages to sort a slot at the registry office before :ninja: is sentenced.
This is what I am hoping for, if this isn't delivered then IanMc has misled everyone !!!
I do hope that is the case and it is made legal very quickly as I expect there will be a lot of back lash for ED to cope with if they have hyped this as a wedding and then just leave it at that.
The daft romantic in me has thought that if they had the documents sorted did they actually get married the other day when they went to that meeting and are keeping it quiet. I just felt the outfits they had on were very similar to the actual wedding outfits but not identical. I know that's silly. :rolleyes:
hi Don we have to wait and see cant wait to see it know i think we wont be dissapointed we get a kiss and hug before like in the trailer and when they say i do for sure and going rumours that Robert will take the Dingle name im happy with that but it would be nice if was RobertSugdenDingle and Aaron SugdenDingle and for what happens afterwards have wait and see how in plays out 1 things for Rob will be for revenge with Finn that he`s lost his true love i thing you dont do is mess with Robert when something really matters like Aaron is to him look out and im sure Aaron be let out in about 6 weeks say End of March or early April and will they move into Mill Cott
hello my robron friends
just popped in cos having read more and more spoilers (know I shouldn't) I'm actually feeling quite upset now. I've left long post on the other place if anyone looks there.
I know that Arron and Robert love each other and that is the main thing whatever happens but I'm sad if ed go this way with the 'wedding' and just can't help wondering what the point is, but doesn't affect how I feel about them in any way cos I'm always positive.
Hi Micheal
I was at the upset stage when I first read it and felt a cheated that it's been built up the way it has but now I'm working on the thought that something positive is going to come out in the episodes and there may be a twist [the old cliche] that we don't know about. Still keeping up the positive feelings and looking forward to what I'm sure will be brilliant performances from our boys whatever happens. :heart::cheer:
I know this is the positive place (yes I did see your post elsewhere and I agree with you), here are my thoughts (not as positive as usual)
I am very much looking forward to next week and I think ED, Dryan and all the cast will do a brilliant job, I have said before I love the way IanMc has developed Robron and how they show a couple of ordinary guys in Love, its wonderful and helps general acceptance of same sex relationships in society today.
NOW
I would be really OK with a commitment ceremony with the quick legal stuff later if this had been the way it had been promoted & sold to the viewers, TPTB knew the expectations. ED are naughty if by the end of next week Robron are not legally married, they have plugged the wedding/husbands thing for weeks, so have the media, I am afraid in the eyes of the law although a commitment is nice its meaningless in terms of their rights.
I am hopeful before Aaron is sentenced that Robert has managed to secure a slot in the registry office (assuming paperwork has been done previously) and they formally tie the knot otherwise I am afraid the hype has been quite misleading.
I'm not really sure what to say at this point. I feel that if they've gone down this route it's because it will cause some difficulty further down the line, either with Robert having no rights over Liv or having no power to decide Aaron's medical choices should he be unable.
There's quite a lot of disappointment from people who now don't even care about next week :(.
I am beginning to wonder exactly what game ED are playing at present -
Firstly - they divulge the information that Aaron is being sent down for a year for a crime that doesn't really appear to have done any physical damage - way before his sentencing.
Secondly - they let it be known 3 days before the event that they've been promoting as a Wedding for months, that it isn't technically legal.
If it is their idea that the discussions that these things have raised are going to promote the programme I personally feel they have gone the other way and will not achieve that end.
I am still positive for our boys relationship but I admit that I feel they are just being used more and more as a plot device and some of the things they are getting involved in are getting beyond the realms of realism.
Sorry guys I'm still looking forward to what's to come for them though. :cheer:
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Welcome to the weekend 😁🎉:heart:
The next episode after tonights will be the start of the wedding:love:
well now another place is actually going to be closed (or at least read only) on Tuesday the day after the event :eek: can you believe it :confused:
So there we go :cartman:has already said it's not official but it makes them a family. :cheer::heart:
Well the build up to the wedding was rather underwhelming and poor:cartman:being pushed out tonight really by everyone and he's the one that's going to be doing his best to make :ninja:feel secure. :bow:
Paddy was annoying - the attitude was he's fine now come on Chas let's have some hanky panky and then he has the nerve to get annoyed with :cartman:on Monday.:angry:
I was actually beginning to wonder if that scene with :cartman:suggesting the wedding was actually going to be in it. :confused:
Our boys were looking great tonight.:heart:
Not that I don't have some sympathy for Liv, she is just a kid still at the end of the day but her lack of respect and gratitude not only to Aaron but Robert and Chas too is incredibly irritating to watch.
The lack of Robert this week and Robron as a couple has been poor planning/story lining/whatever.
Robert isn't even 'in' this story it's clearly Aaron's and Liv's.....He's a footnote at the end of the page. We've got Aaron's (rightly so) worries and we've had Liv's worries but not Robert's.
Could have done without Chas/Paddy though I suspect this is leading somewhere (either she gets pregnant from that or she and Paddy get together properly only for him to dump her or cheat with Rhona).
Also im mystified that if Robert even knows it's not official then WTF is Paddy acting like a **** next week?
Of course I'm going to enjoy next week for what it is ... the comedy with Cain, all the lovey dovey stuff, the vows, the kisses, and seeing lots of Aaron and Robert as well as other favourite characters that will feature like Adam and Victoria.
However, I'm sorry to say, that is just not good enough for me. It really isn't. In fact I am quite upset. We have been deceived these last few months and there is no explanation that can stop me feeling that I've been treated badly and like a fool. :mad::mad::mad:
Also, why are they doing so? Why are Emmerdale treating their gay characters like this? It's so different to the way straight characters are treated when getting married. This makes me feel even worse.
What is the reason for this? :mad: You know what, I'm beginning not to care. :mad:
PS - Robert says it's not official in tonight's episode. So why have Emmerdale continued to promote a wedding since that scene was written? I'm just sick of it, something that I never thought I would say about a soap that I have watched for ever.
After the way:cartman:was treated today it makes me feel more and more that if it's made legal I do no want Robert to change his names to Dingle!!
Negativity is rising in me again tonight so I'm going to disappear until later on as I want to look forward to next week and enjoy every scene out boys are in.:eek:
Just watched tonights episode, I actually thought it was OK, it showed :ninja: concerns especially for Liv who :ninja: feels is more vulnerable than :cartman:.
It was Chas who told :cartman: that :ninja: would be worried about him as well so I think she was being nice to and it was lovely to see :cartman: being totally serious about committing to :ninja:, I suppose even with this being a commitment ceremony it is in front of everyone they both know so :cartman: can hardly stray with all Dingle eyes watching.
Bring on Monday and the Robron LOVE
This time last week we would all have been expecting that after the Friday episode tonight the Thread would be absolutely flowing with comments about what everyone was going to be wearing, what they would be eating and drinking what the boys would be saying in their vows and what they would be getting up to after hours on their first night as Husbands after the wedding episodes and what do we get -SILENCE! :(
It's such a shame that ED have treated their fans this way but let's give them the benefit of the doubt - they may pull something out of the bag at the last minute that makes us all so glad that we stuck with it. After all:cartman:&:ninja:have been through some pretty tough times together and have managed to come out of it even stronger and more in love and committed to each other than I'm sure any of us would have imagined when this started back in December 2014.
So let's all pull together and congratulate them for getting to where they are today and stay positive that one day (hopefully not to long in the future) they will have the legal right to call themselves married - to each other - men. :heart::wub::cheer:🍾
I think what people need to remember is they've always had some kind of 'plan' or reasoning behind things even if we've not liked them all. We have to believe that IM has approved a narrative that will become clearer In the coming months because if not then we have to face that maybe he's paying lip service and doesn't really care about Robron despite his claims. I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt especially since he's not given any reason to thus far.
BTW if you've seen my posts somewhere else I am only posting and then running, I don't read anything there just offer my opinion or provide links so if you reply to me there im not ignoring you, I just haven't seen your reply.
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I love these. Take a look. They are here. :cheer:
Poor Paddy. :rotfl: :clap:
You're probably right about the plan cos i think they do work out the sls months ahead. That would be ok as there will be plenty of drama which means lots of Robron but the only thing i was upset about as i said in the other place was that this was built up as a wedding when as we know know, as Robert said at the end of last nite, its "not official".
I'm sorry i think ed have misled and cheated. If it been said that Robert has a lovely massive surprise for Aaron or something like that then great but it is just they actually called it a wedding, which means legal husbands. Still, being always positive i suggested a twist yesterday and however unlikely it could still be something like that.
It's all about this really and it's unacceptable after 5 months of deliberately giving us the wrong impression that there will be a legal wedding, something that we have all wanted for so long. I really want Iain M to be sacked as producer for his conduct.
Had we been treated with respect and told nothing or just been told there would be a commitment ceremony, there would be no bad feeling on my part. In fact I would have been delighted to have a commitment ceremony to look forward to these last few months.
It's such a shame that Emmerdale have done this because what is actually happening in the soap these last few days is good. I really enjoyed last night's episode, especially Aaron's encounter with Faith (though I could do with everyone being a lot kinder to Robert).
Having said all that, I'll just add one more thing now that I am feeling a lot calmer. Yes, we have every right to feel cheesed off and angry but let's remember this is just a soap opera. Let's try to enjoy it for what it is and let's remember that there is always fun to be had somewhere. For example, I laughed out loud yesterday when I was reading comments on DS about how ridiculous Paddy's objections to the non-wedding will be.
As you see Eddie I haven't been able to help responding to things I think are wrong on the other place and my friend has just told me I need to calm down :cool:
Having looked back over the last day or so its interesting that as far as I can make out that there seems to be a difference between how male and female posters see things. That is probably a big generalisation and you cannot always tell :confused:
Of course there maybe other divisions but best not to go there at all :angel:
Some are saying in the other place that IanMc has done a bad job, actually I think IanMc has done a good job with Robron, excellent development and his brave move to marry'ish them so I don't agree he hasn't don't a good job.
I think my current confusion/frustration is that the story next week was sold as a wedding NOT a commitment ceremony, now unless there is a surprise we are not aware of I don't know (I think this has been over debated already elsewhere)
Or a nice scenario would be whether Robert will be waiting outside jail for Aaron when he is released with a suit, drags Aaron to the registry office where all his family are waiting and they legally tie the knot - if this is the plan then we get two ceremonies and happy days.
I think lets wait and see how this plays out, regularly people here get upset and the story goes off in another direction so lets give IanMc the benefit of the doubt, if he actually fails then its the time to moan.
I agree Paul. I can't pretend I wasn't slightly disappointed that they are not going to be legally married at the end of these episodes but I agree that we should let it play out before judging. I think it was RG who said that the legality issue has probably been planned as a plot for the future and I think that's highly likely. I am still massively looking forward to this week's episodes though - I have high hopes and think it will be absolutely lovely.
I also think that Ian Mc has done a good job with them on the whole - I am pleased that he has invested in them as a couple and has made no secret of the fact that he loves them together. I think calling him out on the 'non wedding' issue just yet is a tad harsh as I genuinely think it will be addressed at some point. I do hope so anyway...
*sets up tent in the wait-and-see camp* :wub:
I think it's a bit unfair to judge IM based on this wedding issue. I think the real problem is people judge all too often based on spoilers before they've watched an episode. I've seen people saying things like they don't care about next week now or if it's not legal it's meaningless etc because they're disappointed. Maybe they should watch and then wait and see what happens instead of deciding they hate it already.
We know the 'name' issue is brought up so I presume that would lead to or be a direct result of making things officially legal.
Yes I did suggest that as I don't see any other reason for them not to have a planned a legal wedding from the off. I think issues will arise form the fact it appears Aaron will be attacked for being gay and that the people doing it will see him and Robert when Robert visits. With that in mind I think Aaron will stop allowing Robert to visit and probably Chas/Liv too but for differing reasons. He wont want Chas/Liv to see his struggles and he wont want Robert to see him as it might lead to Robert taking action and making things worse or he might not want to give people reason to attack him for being gay (if he's not visited by a man there's a sort of out of sights out of mind thing).
I think this will lead to problems for all of them, Robert will feel pushed out and in some ways like his relationship is over (no physical contact at all and possibly no communication either would destroy most relationships). Chas would blame Robert for Aaron not only being in prison but having a tougher time than he might while Robert gets to carry on with his life (I stress this is how Chas see it not how it would actually be, as Robert's life is very much in limbo but he can't live like a prisoner himself because he's not one). Who knows with Liv. Could be all sorts of problems for her, alcohol, Sandra, loneliness, worry.
I do like your posts RG83... you're always the voice of reason both on here and the other thread. I've always adhered to the "wait and see" philosophy. For me, the fact that they won't be legally married yet won't take anything away from the enjoyment I'm going to get watching the episodes and I have faith in Maxine and Isobel Cameron that the episodes will be wonderful :wub: I'm sure that Robron will get married legally at a later date, when Aaron is released from prison, maybe before they move into the Mill. I think IM is totally invested in Robron - he knows they are TV gold :love:
Not long to go now and I'm looking forward to reading Duncan's spoilers tomorrow and finding out a bit more about the wedding :heart:
I do have my moments. I think there must be some other twists and turns to the episodes as they've pretty much revealed everything we were unsure of already, Aaron's prison sentence is confirmed and their wedding isn't legal.
How lovely would it be for them to make it legal on the day they move into Mill?
The new pics and new spolers have been posted by Digutal Spy and others elsewhere. :)
There are quite a few. You may want to start here, where the wedding is discussed by the Emmerdale producer.
LOOK HERE.
You'll be able to find links to other stuff on that page.