Your right Parkerman, I suppose we should be thankful that he did not come back a girl :lol:
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Your right Parkerman, I suppose we should be thankful that he did not come back a girl :lol:
Will he be as camp as the other Ben :p
I think they are goinig to make him much tougher, as a result of being inside!
can he be tough but still like musicals? it's hardly impossible BBC, come on!
Ok so he will only like hard musicals from now, like West Side Story :lol:
must have been an american jail he was in , Lauren was away in the States of about 3 months if that and came back at least 4 years older taller bigger build.
Thank god the other ones gone thats all I can say
An EastEnders regular could become the third gay character on Albert Square, a report has suggested.
Ben Mitchell (Joshua Pascoe) will reveal that he is gay after sharing a kiss with another teenager called Duncan, according to The Mirror.
"Since the day Ben returned to Walford, he's been a bit of a disappointment for Phil," a show insider told the paper.
"With his love of dancing and musicals, Ben was not cast from the same 'tough guy' mould as his father. It's ironic that Phil's efforts to turn his son into a mini version of himself backfire spectacularly when he encourages Ben to go boxing with Duncan.
"But no one could anticipate the chain of events this will spark around Walford as Ben tries to keep his sexuality secret from his father."
Ben and Duncan will reportedly be spotted by Patrick Truman (Rudolph Walker), but Ben threatens the shopkeeper fearing what father Phil (Steve McFadden) will say if he finds out.
The production source continued: "Poor Ben is terrified of Phil's reaction but the truth will out, sooner or later."
EastEnders executive producer Bryan Kirkwood recently defended scenes showing Syed Masood (Marc Elliott) and Christian Clarke (John Partridge) in bed together following viewer complaints.
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Oh dear!
Obviously the fact that Ben likes dancing and musicals must mean he is gay. No stereotyping there then. I'm sure that'll be no end of help to all heterosexual boys who are interested in taking up dancing or who like musicals.
I was just about to reply the same.. Not all guys who are into musicals, dancing, hairdressing or otherwise are gay..Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
I thought he was abused in the detention centre
I think they should have made Tamwar gay imagine Zainab then
That is what annoys me a bit.. There is a scene where Zainab thought Tamwar was gay (it was when he was off doing his comedy) and they made light of it but when Sayid said he was gay they went mental... it is like they expected and would accept Tam was gayQuote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I say a few would have thought Benny Eilliot was gay beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Siobhan
Phil will probably try and beat him straight
Phil will take this very well
Are they bringing back the same Ben that just left a while back ??? I didn't like him he just disturbed me LOL
It will be the new Ben, who returned to Albert Square after going to youth offender institute for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustJodi
Thats the one I meant ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
There's a little update on EastEnders' new gay storyline for Ben Mitchell today as the soap has confirmed the rumours and executive producer Bryan Kirkwood has spoken about the plot.
Yesterday, a tabloid newspaper revealed that Ben - played by Joshua Pascoe - will share a kiss with a teenager named Duncan after he makes his return to Albert Square later this year.
Although Ben is expected to try to keep his sexuality a secret from his dad Phil (Steve McFadden), the truth has been tipped to come out "sooner or later".
Speaking to The Guardian about the storyline, Kirkwood commented: "For EastEnders viewers, it was never a question of if, but more like when Ben Mitchell was going to come out as gay. The Mitchells represent the spirit of EastEnders - tough, loyal and uncompromising.
"To see a man like Phil learn to deal with, and ultimately accept, his gay son, is a valid story for a drama like EastEnders to embark on."
Ben and Duncan's kissing scene is understood to have been filmed earlier this week.
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Ooh, whatever would Phil and Shirley say if they could see this?
It's EastEnders star Joshua Pascoe nipping off set for a sneaky cigarette - even though he is only 16 years old.
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The lad, who plays troubled teen Ben Mitchell, son of Phil, was spotted puffing on a fag during a break from filming the show at Elstree.
Joshua left the set with the crafty smoke hidden behind his ear, before lighting up on his return - despite being warned by his chaperone that there were waiting photographers.
As Ben, Joshua is about to embark on a tough storyline that will see him embark on a relationship with another boy and try to come out to his dad.
So in the scheme of things, tough guy Phil probably won't think the smoking's too bad.
I would say him smoking is the biggest scandal. Shame on you Joshua :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
t's no secret that EastEnders' Patrick Trueman will soon be at the centre of a storyline with the Mitchells, but new spoilers have emerged today revealing more details of how things will unfold.
As we already know, Patrick spots Ben kissing newcomer Duncan later this month, leading the teenager to fear that Patrick will tell Phil what he saw.
Beyond that, even though Patrick (Rudolph Walker) promises to keep quiet, things soon turn nasty for the shopkeeper as Ben panics unnecessarily when he sees Patrick chatting to Phil (Steve McFadden).
Keen to ensure Patrick's silence, Ben (Joshua Pascoe) threatens him by throwing a brick through the window of the B&B, according to All About Soap.
When Patrick demands cash from Ben to repair the damage, Phil's troubled son cannot raise the funds - so he tries to warn off Patrick by heading to the Minute Mart, locking the door and starting to trash the place!
The situation reportedly escalates as Patrick finds himself being victimised by Ben, Phil and Jay. Later, though, Christian encourages Ben to open up over his true feelings - will his words have an impact on Ben or will he ignore them?
Why do Jay and Phil go after Patrick?
EastEnders' Patrick Trueman faces bullying and intimidation from the Mitchells next week as Ben's secretive behaviour has a big impact on Albert Square life.
As we reported last week, Patrick (Rudolph Walker) will soon spot Ben kissing his new love interest Duncan in The Vic's alleyway, causing the teen to panic and go all-out to ensure his silence - even though Patrick has already promised to keep quiet.
Ben (Joshua Pascoe) initially throws a brick through the B&B window to make a point, but the situation escalates when he barges into the Minute Mart, locks the door and starts to destroy the shop.
Phil (Steve McFadden) stumbles across the commotion just as Patrick has begun to lose his temper with Ben. Believing that Patrick locked Ben in and intended to harm him, Phil angrily threatens the shopkeeper when he refuses to apologise.
The Walford hardman's fury soon leads to a full-on bullying campaign as he orders Alfie to lay Patrick off at the pub, and also teams up with Jay to destroy Denise's car headlights.
Battle lines are then drawn on the Square as Heather moves out of Phil's in support of Patrick, while Denise publicly accuses Phil of racism at The Vic.
With the situation so tense, will Ben have the courage to clear Patrick's name and reveal what's really going on, or will he keep quiet?
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EastEnders star Steve McFadden has praised the soap's bosses for exploring Ben Mitchell's sexuality in a new storyline.
Ben, played by 16-year-old Joshua Pascoe, will share a kiss with new friend Duncan later this week - but it soon becomes clear that he is desperate to stop dad Phil from finding out he is gay.
Speaking of the plotline for the first time, McFadden explained that Phil would not immediately accept his son's sexuality if the truth ever came out.
McFadden told TV Choice: "I don't think Phil's more homophobic than the average man. If Ben said he was gay, Phil would think, 'He's just a kid. He hasn't had a relationship. He doesn't know what he is'."
The 52-year-old added that he has been drawing on his own experiences to support Pascoe during filming.
"When I was at drama school I played a gay character and had to take my clothes off on stage," McFadden explained. "I know how embarrassed I was, and I was 25 at the time - Joshua's only 16.
"But it's a great storyline for EastEnders to be doing and I think Phil's reaction is pretty common, so people will relate to it. Coming out isn't just about one person - it's about the whole family."
Pascoe joined the cast of EastEnders last year, taking over from Charlie Jones in the role of Ben.
EastEnders bosses have promised that Phil Mitchell's reaction to his son Ben's sexuality will be a big storyline for the soap in the months ahead.
Phil (Steve McFadden) lashed out at Ben (Joshua Pascoe) in last night's episode after the teenager came clean over his feud with Patrick Trueman, admitting that the tense situation began when the shopkeeper saw him kissing someone.
Although Ben did not explicitly state that he had kissed another boy, Phil realised what he was saying and was unable to accept the news.
EastEnders' executive producer Bryan Kirkwood and scriptwriter Christopher Reason have now both revealed that there is a lot more to come from Phil and Ben's plotline.
Speaking on BBC Three's EastEnders: The New Moons, Kirkwood explained: "For me, what's at the heart of Phil is a man who is desperate to be a good father. The fact that he is so desperate to reach out to his son but doesn't quite have the words to do so - that's what makes that relationship so interesting."
He continued: "Phil is about as unreconstructed a man as it's possible to be. When Ben admits that he kissed a boy, I don't think it is much of a surprise to Phil. Actually, he's probably been dreading this news for many years.
"But it's still not something that he particularly wants to hear. And how Phil reacts really kicks off the next big story for the Mitchells."
Meanwhile, Reason added: "This arc that we're writing for Ben is a long one, and he will learn wrath from Phil."
Ben's storyline continues in tonight's episode of the soap as he makes a second attempt to confide in his father.
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It can be such a blow to fathers even when they know deep in their hearts that it is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by alan45
Must say Steve Mc Fadden did a good job. He even broke into tears. He just didn't want to hear Ben saying it.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchgirl
Not meant as an offence, but from experience. Some dreams do get shattered.Quote:
Originally Posted by parkerman
And ofcourse there are always exemptions to the rule.
I kinda agree with DG.. most men don't take it well to hear their son is gay. I know a lot of fathers who don't even joke about their sons been gay.. it is not a majority but there is quite a few
again....why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Siobhan
surely as a parent the most important thing is that your child is healthy and happy, anything else is mere detail..?
Sarah... a lot of men feel it is a reflection on them if son is gay.. I know speaking to a lot of heterosexual men, they don't understand how a guy can be attracted to another guy.. plus regardless of how much we say this is the 21st century, been gay still has a stigma attached to it.. personal I know my partner doesn't give a crap either way if our son was gay or not
I'm actually a bit miffed none of mine are gay - I was kind of hoping that I could go shopping with at least one of them!!
I can imagine that some fathers think that their own masculinity could be questioned if their son is gay, maybe they even question it themselves. I know a mother who'se daughter is gay and the first thing that came into her mind when her daughter told her the news was that she would not become a grandmother.
Plus, we are talking about Phil Mitchel here who thinks he is a man's man cause he uses his fist rather than his head to solve issue (something I definitely don't think is a man) and can you honest say that Phil doesn't think this is a reflection on him??? He cares what people think
surely we will never progress as a society all the while that in order to be a man, you must be macho...and in order to be fullfilled as a woman you must have children?
sad world..
Sarah.. I don't agree with it and I certainly don't think a man is a man just cause he is macho but it is a sad fact that is the way a lot of people still think.. I know friends of mine who have been called selfish cause they don't want children.. I have been call it myself.. I didn't want to have children (I have 2 now and love them to bits) but it is still happening and as you said, with this attitude we will never progress... People still cringe when they see Syed and Christian kiss on tv.. I have seen it...Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah c
Funny I never wanted children, bit as you can see by my banner I,ve got two lovelies. My younger brother is gayQuote:
Originally Posted by Siobhan
my dad called our GP in order to get my brother a mental check and I am not kidding here. And as faras shopping is concerned I'm not onto leather suits but it is fun talking about hunks on tv. Hahaha
EastEnders bosses are planning to reintroduce the character of Ben Mitchell, Digital Spy can exclusively confirm.
Show chiefs are currently in the process of looking to recast the role ahead of an on-screen return later this year.
Digital Spy understands that the character of Ben will go in a new direction when he returns to Walford with a new actor in the part.
Ben was last seen on screen in August 2012 when he handed himself into the police, confessing that he was responsible for killing Heather Trott.
The troubled teenager has since been serving a stretch behind bars, but in Tuesday night's episode (May 13), his father Phil was left stunned when he learned that Ben had been released a month ago.
Following the shock revelation on screen, fans immediately began to wonder whether Ben would be back - with some even speculating that he could have been the mystery culprit who killed Lucy Beale.
The character of Ben has appeared in EastEnders on and off since his birth in 1996. Joshua Pascoe was the most recent actor to play the role, appearing on screen between 2010 and 2012.
Ben's return will no doubt make a big impact on Albert Square as he has to face those who were affected by the death of Heather.
His arrival is also likely to affect Lola Pearce as Ben is the father of her young daughter Lexi.
so he is coming back (recast) as he does no jail time hardly for heather's death and could also have killed lucy