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Prison does that to you though I expect. Kat went it alone and coped in prison on her own, so it hardened her a bit. I did think she could have told Zoe that she loved her too though when she left. Anyway, Kat speaks to Chrissie and Sam next week, forgives Sam because Zoe had, but tells Chrissie she will get revenge for ruining Zoes life!!
god knows what kind of revenge...grass up chrissie and well zoe will also go down...Quote:
Originally Posted by jojomum28
she should blackmail the vic out of chrissie, and give it to sam for bveing a good mate to zoe, and there you are the mitchell's owning the vic again!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
i'd love to see chrissie being kicked out and livoing with jake at the moons, sitting on the sofa watching diagonis murder with nana moon :rotfl:
bondboffin
Chrissie only owns 50% of the pub though and could never sell or give away the entire thing without Den's signature which she would have to forge should she need to get rid of the whole pub. The most she could sell is the half she owns but even then I doubt anybody would buy it and enter into buisness with a partner who's vanished off the face of the earth. They'll never know their buisness parter is actually quite close :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bondboffin
I don't know why Sam even got involved, she hadn't hit him with the doorstop and nor did she have to help bury him. Silly girl! Zoe on the other hand had clobbered him but only to protect Chrissie so she again should not have got further involved. Chrissie however murdered him she would get the murder charge and a charge for covering it up as well. They should all have gone to the police and claimed self defence.
Wouldn't have made for a better storyline than this though :)
i dont get why chrissie hasnt forged the signature...it would be so easy then again im sure sharon would suspect something...Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
zoe would still go down for a small sentance ABH and pervetring the course of justice...however small her custodial sentance...kat wouldnt want her duaghter going down...
bondboffin
Maybe this is leading up to their fight?!
Zoe isn't even in Walford though and she's already served her sentence by believing she was the killer when she wasn't.
the police wouldnt see it like that thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
No but hopefully Chrissie will see it like that and have some compassion for her! Anyways Kat would snap her neck should she spill the beans and put her daughter through anymore than what she has done already.
i dont think chrissie would let zoe off if she goes down for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
she'd malke out that without zoe's blow den would be alive and kicking...Quote:
Originally Posted by di marco
bondboffin
Sam also made a mistake in putting her finger prints on the doorstop, if she'd have left the pub straight away she would be getting on with her life by now.
yeh sam shouldnt have agreed to get rid of the doorstop, but then again she did it for selfish reasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
chrissie has washed it since tough... but then again there will be fingerprints all over den's bodyQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
bondboffin
Sam wanted the pub and if she hadn't cared about it so much then she wouldn't have got involved, atleast I hope that's the case because I wouldn't like to think anybody was that stupid to get involved for no reason especially in something like this.
sam should have immediatley left the vic, not got herself involved as she never hit den, touched him etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
so if she'd not touched his body or the doorstop she could have still blackmailed chrissie, without any way of being arrested, as she could have told the police, but done some deal in that sam got chrissie to confess, giving sam time to get the vic
very boring idea, prefer what actually happened, sam is too blonde to think clever ideas like mine anyways :rotfl:
bondboffin
Zoe's done the right thing by leaving. I reckon Sam and Chrissie should go too. I don't want them to because I like their characters but in a real life situation I'd be terrified. I'd run a mile not live above the corpse.
I thought they ended Fridays episode quite well,,But why do I have this feeling we have NOT seen the last of Zoe ???:hmm:
I doubt she'll turn up for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by justjodi
because she is gonna return at some point when she realises she cant get any other work than eastendersQuote:
Originally Posted by justjodi
bondboffin
but if sam had left so she wasnt involved then she wouldnt have seen chrissie hit him and so everyone would still think it was zoeQuote:
Originally Posted by bondboffin
Thats why I said I had a feeling we HAD not seen the last of Zoe ...I am sure it won't be any time soon, but she is gonna be back,, briefly,,
I actually think she's done a good job in EastEnders. In the beginning she was good and for a 17 year old coped with the Kat/Zoe mother storyline very well.
Okay we all know she went off a bit but didn't everyone last year? I think she should do okay, she's certainly a lot better at acting than most her age.
No because Sam could have still seen Chrissie hit him then suddenly came to her senses and realised she doesn't have to get involved and this is her ideal oppurtunity to get back her pub. Silly cow probably went ahead and helped bury him though - no brains! Den said it and he was right. :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by di marco
She's not gone for good, there could be some good drama if she comes back again but I doubt it's going to be this year or next.Quote:
Originally Posted by justjodi
I think no matter what... IF the crime squad is really good,, then it won't matter how much washing Chrisstie does,,there is always places that the blood stains can get to that cant be reached,, if THEY are being realistic,, about this murder..Chrissie should have been splattered with Dens blood, and the blood splattered every where...there is a certain way the blood arches and splatters when using a heavy object as a murder weapon,, given Chrissie is probably not the strongest,, she wil have had to BANG DEN'S head in really hard and several times...:wall: The dog door step will also have blood on it,, those cast iron objects are usually just that CAST,, so there are seams where the blood can get caught and Chrissie could not have gotten to it when she was cleaning the door stop..
Ok nuff said....:searchme: Sorry I do have some background in criminal justice..
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Originally Posted by bondboffin
but if that happened then her fingerprints/dna would be on den as she touched him to see if he was alive or not. hse probably did help them bury him as they were all panickyQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
But that would be the only thing and there could be any number of reasons why she touched him. They did work behind the same bar together.Quote:
Originally Posted by di marco
well if thats the case then she could have picked the doorstop up as well at some other point seeing as pauline thinks it was left in the vicQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
I just feel like Sam dug her own grave in this one.
i agree, she didnt hit him so she didnt need to help them cover it up, she could easily have got away with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
She might not have her pub but is it really that important? Atleast she wouldn't be feeling as she is now.
but at the time she was panicking and so probably thought that she was involved already and so she needed to help them get rid of the evidence, then afterwards she realised that she could use it to blackmail chrissie and get the vic backQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
Blackmailing Chrissie didn't get her anywhere though. Chrissie managed somehow to outsmart her and turn the situation round to her advantage hence Sam not being able to get her mitts on the pub.
it didnt get her anywhere but sam thought it would. all she wanted was to get the pub back and she didnt thin about it properly. i mean on the night den died they planned to get den to sign the vic over to chrissie and then sam thought she was going to get it. if sam had thought about it proeprly she would have seen that chrissie wouldnt have given it to her anyway so her being there was pointless, she wasnt going to achieve anythig from itQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
I must admire the way Chrissie has played this so cooly. Yes Sam knows some information that could probably ruin Chrissie but Chrissie hasn't let Sam see her panic or begged her or cried on her shoulder etc and made desperate pleas for Sam not to go to the police. Chrissie has handled the fact Sam has something on her really well although Sam is now seen as an accessory especially if she helped bury the body but even knowing and not telling anyone is enough to get a prison term which I think is where she'll end up when she leaves in November. I have a feeling it's all going to kick off and Chrissie will be having the last laugh - well for now anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by di marco
but how would she be able to get a prison sentence and not chrissie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
Maybe somehow Chrissie manages to turn it on her. I would hope Kat would stand in and tell the truth to the police though should that happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by di marco
kat wouldnt tell the police though as she wouldnt want to tell them that zoe was involved. also i cant see how chrissie could turn it on sam as dens buried in the pub she owns, she wouldnt be able to say she didnt know about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Walford Queen
True! Even if the police knew about Zoe's involvement - would they be able to find her? I suppose it sort of stops Michelle coming back though.
Hmmmmm Before Zoe even said it,,, I said call her Mom,, or something,,, whoa she did,, that is when I saw a totally different Kat,, What i saw was a momma bear and she is going to defend her cub,,God help those who get in Kats way and the ones who are on her list,,, like when she said to Chrissie before she stormed out,, YOU'LL KEEP,,, oooooohhhhh
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