Dean Wicks

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by parkerman

Surely in some way he has to actually confess so that Shirley, Buster and Denise (not that it's got anything to do with her!) learn the truth. Surely!

---

shirley needs to hear him confess and then how can he stay around

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lizann

shirley needs to hear him confess and then how can he stay around

---

I've got a horrible feeling they're going to try and redeem Dean and keep him around (otherwise why are they playing the sympathy card for him at the moment?). If that happens I'm going to have to seriously question whether I want to continue watching EE. :(

a rapist cant be redeemed dtc is a fool if this is the way it is going

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lizann

a rapist cant be redeemed dtc is a fool if this is the way it is going

---

I'm probably wrong. DTC did say at the start that Linda would get justice, so lets hope that's real justice and not everyone feeling sorry for poor little Dean and forgiving him... :thumbsdow

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dazzle

I'm probably wrong. DTC did say at the start that Linda would get justice, so lets hope that's real justice and not everyone feeling sorry for poor little Dean and forgiving him... :thumbsdow

---

I hope the producer lives up to his original
promise of justice- but he also said it would not
be of a legal nature!!

I still havent really worked out how that
could be done. I know not many women
report rape ,few cases go to trial and get
a conviction which perpetuates the reluctance
to make reports of rape.

There are some"illegal"ways vengeance could
be exacted but not sure they would be shown
in a Soap.
But the story does need to be concluded soon-
with punishment for Dean & Justice for Linda.

Dupl

EastEnders star Matt Di Angelo has revealed that he decided to stick with the soap for longer than originally planned.

The actor was asked to extend his return stint as Dean Wicks beyond the original plan for the character's rape storyline, which saw him attack his sister-in-law Linda Carter last year.

Speaking to Inside Soap, Di Angelo explained: "Our producer Dominic said he was happy with what I was doing and asked if I'd be willing to stay a bit longer and I thought, 'Yeah, brilliant!'

"I'm having a good time, so I'm happy to stick around. Getting back to auditioning and flying back and forth to America, not knowing where your next job will be, isn't the most fun way to live.

"I was lucky that in the seven years I was away from EastEnders, I didn't stop working. But I'm sure I'll be back in the big bad world of auditions at some point."

Dean is currently featuring in a second major storyline as future episodes will see him decide to meet Jade - the secret daughter he never knew existed. However, the big question for many EastEnders fans is still whether he will ever get his comeuppance for raping Linda.
http://i1.cdnds.net/15/15/618x417/so...ers-5054-7.jpg
Linda tells Dean to stop lying
© BBC
Linda and Dean

Di Angelo said: "At the end of the day it's a soap, so we have to finish the story and not leave it unresolved in any way. I'm not saying he should go to prison, though - I don't think he should, because the real-life statistics don't reflect that.

"The vast majority of these people don't face judicial punishment, and that's one thing EastEnders really wanted to get across. That's what makes it so good - everyone feels that sense of injustice.

"But there are other ways for Dean to be punished, like getting physically abused by Mick, or having his financial or personal life attacked. He's constantly being faced with that - viewers will see him being punished on a daily basis."

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Perdita

Di Angelo said: "At the end of the day it's a soap, so we have to finish the story and not leave it unresolved in any way. I'm not saying he should go to prison, though - I don't think he should, because the real-life statistics don't reflect that.

"The vast majority of these people don't face judicial punishment, and that's one thing EastEnders really wanted to get across. That's what makes it so good - everyone feels that sense of injustice.

"But there are other ways for Dean to be punished, like getting physically abused by Mick, or having his financial or personal life attacked. He's constantly being faced with that - viewers will see him being punished on a daily basis."

---

I am sorry but this really does not cut it with me .... he should go to prison, get on the sex offenders register and only supervised visits with his daughter :angry:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Perdita

I am sorry but this really does not cut it with me .... he should go to prison, get on the sex offenders register and only supervised visits with his daughter :angry:

---

Thats a really good point Perdita.
People ( inc me) accept that most rapists
wont go to prison( tho thats wrong)

But if they arent charged and convicted then
they wont be on Sex Offenders register
or be supervised with their children

I know being a rapist doesnt mean someone
is a paedophile but they dont have the
normal boundaries on behaviour and
rape is partly about control.

So it means not only are they not punished
but potential future victims arent protected.
And they wouldnt be covered by Claires Law??

Dupl

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Perdita

I am sorry but this really does not cut it with me .... he should go to prison, get on the sex offenders register and only supervised visits with his daughter :angry:

---

Soaps supposedly shows experiences and provide help across in these storyline situations... What about victims that don't get that justice, where the perpetrator gets off... Can't just forget about them and ignore any help these soaps could give in a situation where the rapist doesn't go to prison just because viewers want him in prison. Dean may of not been punished they way we want but this storyline has proven to show how regardless Dean's state, the victim was shown the support from their family and got their life back on track. Not often this scenarios are shown and I applaud EE going this way and not just going down the route where the rapist is jailed which, I assume, doesn't happen as often as we like.

.

I'm sure it's right that many rapists don't go to prison but I'm not sure how the way this story is going helps women who have been raped. As we know millions watch EE and they are being given a message of despair for the victim. What's the point in reporting the rape if the perpetrator is going to get away with it? It needs to give some hope that rapists are caught and sentenced otherwise it's a rapist's charter to carry on regardless as they won't have to go to prison. Even if the statistics do show that many rapists get away with it, EE has no business encouraging this idea.

Even worse is the idea that Dean might get his comeuppance by being physically attacked by Mick. That's a great lesson to teach. Take the law into your own hands - I don't think so.

Why did Dominic make Dean a rapist if his plan for Dean was the child with Shabham all along?

Quote:

---

Di Angelo said: "At the end of the day it's a soap, so we have to finish the story and not leave it unresolved in any way. I'm not saying he should go to prison, though - I don't think he should, because the real-life statistics don't reflect that.

"The vast majority of these people don't face judicial punishment, and that's one thing EastEnders really wanted to get across. That's what makes it so good - everyone feels that sense of injustice.

"But there are other ways for Dean to be punished, like getting physically abused by Mick, or having his financial or personal life attacked. He's constantly being faced with that - viewers will see him being punished on a daily basis."

---

Billy suffers more than Dean all the time and he isn't a rapist

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by parkerman

I'm sure it's right that many rapists don't go to prison but I'm not sure how the way this story is going helps women who have been raped. As we know millions watch EE and they are being given a message of despair for the victim. What's the point in reporting the rape if the perpetrator is going to get away with it? It needs to give some hope that rapists are caught and sentenced otherwise it's a rapist's charter to carry on regardless as they won't have to go to prison. Even if the statistics do show that many rapists get away with it, EE has no business encouraging this idea.

Even worse is the idea that Dean might get his comeuppance by being physically attacked by Mick. That's a great lesson to teach. Take the law into your own hands - I don't think so.

---

This storyline showed us Linda is/was able to get her life back on track, give her a sense of safety in her own home - what kind of help are you looking for? I agree that victims should be confident in reporting the crime and should feel they can get justice but that's not always the case. Showing conviction on a soap doesn't change how the law works so why continuously show one experience in a rape situation. EE has the business to provide information in many situations for many different crimes - helping the victim is as important as catching the perpetrator. What about all the victims out there who haven't got justice, victims whose lives are in tatters because they don't know how or where to get help or what to do if their perpetrator is still on the streets.

Of course I'd rather see Dean in jail to rot but if all EE gave to rape victims was to report to the police, he gets caught - that's it done. It doesn't reflect some real life scenarios where the person gets out. Then what? EE or any soaps never show what happens then, or show the type of help they can still receive, or to know you can take control of your life back and to know your family will support you.

Do those victims not deserve help/information from soaps who provide this information to those out there as to satisfied the average viewer or to provide information for victims whose scenario occurs so little.

Maybe I have a less popular opinion here but I am thinking about all the victims and not just a few. Soaps have done the ideal situation for rapes in the past where they were arrested - show us new scenarios so we can know how to help someone in that situation rather than repeat situations we've seen. Like you said, most rapists get away, disgusting though that it is, we need to know rather than pretend it doesn't happen or avoid it. The focus is on the victim not the perpetrator.

.

How can Linda move on and be safe with Dean living in such close proximity to her and her family and also he is Mick's brother

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tammyy2j

How can Linda move on and be safe with Dean living in such close proximity to her and her family and also he is Mick's brother

---

Yes -I agree Tammy-. Linda is quite a strong
character and was/is an enduring lovable
relationship. All her " family" did not support her!
and being able to live day to day is not
really the same as fully getting over something.

There may be cases where what Dan propounds
can happen.But Linda isnt one of them.

Dean is constantly around ( also his dreadful
mother).He is now staying longer and contract
extended which is longer for Linda to.endure his
proximity.

I'm sure the Jade story is an attempt to show
him.in a better light. Has as been pointed
out in another post if he was a convicted Sex
Offender he would not be allowed access to.children!


The BBC is a publicly funded body . They can't
change what happens in rape cases but they
shouldnt be re-inforcing " the rape doesn't
really count " mentality of characters like
Dean and his followers.

Dupl

Linda the victim has been lost in shuffle now of Dean's storyline with Jade/Roya, the rape was an down played also for Stan's death and funeral and Mick's discovery that Shirley is his real mother

Linda needs Dean to admit what he done and also the Carter family need to apologise to her and I think only Mick and her kids believe Linda

I don't think anyone on the Square but Stacey believes Dean raped her

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tammyy2j

How can Linda move on and be safe with Dean living in such close proximity to her and her family and also he is Mick's brother

---

True but I've read a lot of news articles where the rapist was a family member - if they get away with it - isn't it good to receive help and information about what you can do and what is available to you?

Aren't storylines these soaps do suppose to help raise awareness and provide information to all kinds of victims in all scenarios of crimes.

Why shouldn't soaps provide information and help to people who tried to get legal justice and couldn't.

I get why you want Dean jailed to be shown badly - to encourage victims to come forward and to feel that justice can be served and that showing it doesn't wouldn't help. I understand. But what do you have in mind when situations like that don't happen... It is important to encourage victims to seek justice but what then if the victim doesn't get justice? Do you just end the help there or avoid covering more realistic scenarios? Soaps have a duty when covering these crimes to provide help to everyone in all situations - to try make a difference and help everyone.

I'd imagine if a rape victim saw this ideal situation - so then decided to go to the police but only to find its too late, that they left it too long. What happens to these people? In John-Paul's case on Hollyoaks - he was told if had a bath/shower they'd have no evidence - meaning if the victim waited just even a day after the event - it isn't looking good? So for a victim at home watching this - it might be too late for DNA evidence angle. What happens to them? EE need to show the type of help they can get, professional help was shown very little in EE which is a mark down from me, but what was shown that Linda has the support of those closet to her, and we can all agree Linda is on her way to who she was before.

Please reply to this post with this question answered, if Dean was arrested immediately, where is the help for the other victims?

.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx

Maybe I have a less popular opinion here but I am thinking about all the victims and not just a few. Soaps have done the ideal situation for rapes in the past where they were arrested - show us new scenarios so we can know how to help someone in that situation rather than repeat situations we've seen. Like you said, most rapists get away, disgusting though that it is, we need to know rather than pretend it doesn't happen or avoid it. The focus is on the victim not the perpetrator.

---

I understand the point you're making and there is something to be said with showing that rape victims can get on with their lives even without justice

HOWEVER what Matt di Angelo and DTC appear not to understand is that most viewers do not want to watch the rapist getting on with his life. Let him leave Albert Square so that happens off screen.

Bit in bold: that isn't how the storyline has played out though. Most of it's been about the Carter feud, Shirley's dilemma and Dean's self-pity. There's been very little focus on how Linda's coping since the reveal - which is pretty outrageous. Also, she's surrounded by a community who have no idea if she was lying or not about the rape. No doubt many of them think she was (as evidenced by Ian's remark a few weeks ago).

It's obvious that Matt is DTC's favourite and that's coming across on screen. We don't want to see rapists written that way! If he wasn't being written so sympathetically there wouldn't be such an outcry about this.

Matt di Angelo obviously has no idea how being raped profoundly affects victims, sometimes for the rest of their lives, if he thinks minor punishments "on a daily basis" will satisfy viewers.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tammyy2j

Billy suffers more than Dean all the time and he isn't a rapist

---

Very good point.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by maidmarian

The BBC is a publicly funded body . They can't
change what happens in rape cases but they
shouldnt be re-inforcing " the rape doesn't
really count " mentality of characters like
Dean and his followers.

---

Another excellent point. By changing their mind about Dean's comeuppance DTC and his team have effectively downplayed the seriousness of rape as Dean's allowed to get on with his life and bond with his daughter.

Dan - how exactly has this storyline given help and information to victims who don't get justice? All that's been shown is that Linda's ordeal at the police interview was pointless and that, at the very best, most of the community think it's possible she lied about rape to cover up her adultery. Yes her close family believe her but that's true of most rape victims (though obviously not all).

I'm very close to someone who was raped in a similar way to Linda was, by a "friend", less than two years ago (and he wasn't even charged let alone convicted, though the police believed her). I assure you this storyline has been of no help to her. EE used to be her favourite TV program but why should she and other victims suffer seeing someone similar to their attacker getting on with their life and, worse, being written about sympathetically? It's quite outrageous!!! :angry:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx

True but I've read a lot of news articles where the rapist was a family member - if they get away with it - isn't it good to receive help and information about what you can do and what is available to you?

Aren't storylines these soaps do suppose to help raise awareness and provide information to all kinds of victims in all scenarios of crimes.

Why shouldn't soaps provide information and help to people who tried to get legal justice and couldn't.



I get why you want Dean jailed to be shown badly - to encourage victims to come forward and to feel that justice can be served and that showing it doesn't wouldn't help. I understand. But what do you have in mind when situations like that don't happen... It is important to encourage victims to seek justice but what then if the victim doesn't get justice? Do you just end the help there or avoid covering more realistic scenarios? Soaps have a duty when covering these crimes to provide help to everyone in all situations - to try make a difference and help everyone.

I'd imagine if a rape victim saw this ideal situation - so then decided to go to the police but only to find its too late, that they left it too long. What happens to these people? In John-Paul's case on Hollyoaks - he was told if had a bath/shower they'd have no evidence - meaning if the victim waited just even a day after the event - it isn't looking good? So for a victim at home watching this - it might be too late for DNA evidence angle. What happens to them? EE need to show the type of help they can get, professional help was shown very little in EE which is a mark down from me, but what was shown that Linda has the support of those closet to her, and we can all agree Linda is on her way to who she was before.

Please reply to this post with this question answered, if Dean was arrested immediately, where is the help for the other victims?

---

Well.Dean not being arrested immediately hasn't
provided help for victims either.You do.say that
EE didnt give much info- so thats not a dig.I do
accept you are trying to put a positive slant
on a dreadful.crime & its effects.

I.agree victims do need help.& info. There have been
countless examples on tv of people being made aware about
not bathing/showering after a rape - going back several
years.But it does need repeating together with info
about where other help is available. Even if rapist is
jailed there are many mental.& physical health
problems that can continue for the victim.

EE has been more concerned about Dean than
Linda throughout and I think that brings some
professional judgements into question.
You cant get valid info over to the public/victims
when the main agenda is rehabiliating the rapist

Info.could have been given in the early stages
even before a decision about arrest was made.
I dont believe that most residents of the Square
would have behaved as they did if the story had been
written a year or two.earlier.

The story when first mooted was generally
received postively as an opportunity to.encourage
Victims to come forward . In view of the many
well-published "historical " cases.

I dont think at that stage it was expected that
automatic arrest & conviction would follow
shortly. There would have been ample
time to give info & help.
Disillusion set in - when the story went on&
on without resolution and with too much favourable
attention to.the rapist.

We were promised justice but not the legal kind
But so far none of any kind. And now another
story spotlighting the rapist.
You comment that it is part of soaps remit
raise awareness and I would agree generally.
But Im afraid that usually they concentrate
on the info that suits their storyline rather
whole picture which can lead to misinformation
& foster prejudice.

So a good oppotunity wasted or misused.!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by xx_Dan_xx

True but I've read a lot of news articles where the rapist was a family member - if they get away with it - isn't it good to receive help and information about what you can do and what is available to you?

Aren't storylines these soaps do suppose to help raise awareness and provide information to all kinds of victims in all scenarios of crimes.

Why shouldn't soaps provide information and help to people who tried to get legal justice and couldn't.



I get why you want Dean jailed to be shown badly - to encourage victims to come forward and to feel that justice can be served and that showing it doesn't wouldn't help. I understand. But what do you have in mind when situations like that don't happen... It is important to encourage victims to seek justice but what then if the victim doesn't get justice? Do you just end the help there or avoid covering more realistic scenarios? Soaps have a duty when covering these crimes to provide help to everyone in all situations - to try make a difference and help everyone.

I'd imagine if a rape victim saw this ideal situation - so then decided to go to the police but only to find its too late, that they left it too long. What happens to these people? In John-Paul's case on Hollyoaks - he was told if had a bath/shower they'd have no evidence - meaning if the victim waited just even a day after the event - it isn't looking good? So for a victim at home watching this - it might be too late for DNA evidence angle. What happens to them? EE need to show the type of help they can get, professional help was shown very little in EE which is a mark down from me, but what was shown that Linda has the support of those closet to her, and we can all agree Linda is on her way to who she was before.

Please reply to this post with this question answered, if Dean was arrested immediately, where is the help for the other victims?

---

Well.Dean not being arrested immediately hasn't
provided help for victims either.You do.say that
EE didnt give much info- so thats not a dig.I do
accept you are trying to put a positive slant
on a dreadful.crime & its effects.

I.agree victims do need help.& info. There have been
countless examples on tv of people being made aware about
not bathing/showering after a rape - going back several
years.But it does need repeating together with info
about where other help is available. Even if rapist is
jailed there are many mental.& physical health
problems that can continue for the victim.

EE has been more concerned about Dean than
Linda throughout and I think that brings some
professional judgements into question.
You cant get valid info over to the public/victims
when the main agenda is rehabiliating the rapist

Info.could have been given in the early stages
even before a decision about arrest was made.
I dont believe that most residents of the Square
would have behaved as they did if the story had been
written a year or two.earlier.

The story when first mooted was generally
received postively as an opportunity to.encourage
Victims to come forward . In view of the many
well-published "historical " cases.

I dont think at that stage it was expected that
automatic arrest & conviction would follow
shortly. There would have been ample
time to give info & help.
Disillusion set in - when the story went on&
on without resolution and with too much favourable
attention to.the rapist.

We were promised justice but not the legal kind
But so far none of any kind. And now another
story spotlighting the rapist.
You comment that it is part of soaps remit
raise awareness and I would agree generally.
But Im afraid that usually they concentrate
on the info that suits their storyline rather
whole picture which can lead to misinformation
& foster prejudice.

So a good oppotunity wasted or misused.!!

sure whats a bit of rape between families, that is the attitude im getting from dtc and matt

where has dean suffered exactly, he has his business, his family and now a kid

linda is the one suffering

I can feel a letter to the Radio Times coming on......

dean really being punished bed hopping with roxy

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lizann

dean really being punished bed hopping with roxy

---

I was going to suggest he spiked her drink but she was drinking a far amount and in bed she seemed really into him pardon the pun :p

...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tammyy2j

I was going to suggest he spiked her drink but she was drinking a far amount and in bed she seemed really into him pardon the pun :p

---

:eek:

I suppose the fact that his child has CF is supposed to be seen as a punishment (as he'll be going back through what he already did with his brother) but it doesn't wash with me. I stopped watching a while ago but read a few comments online so that I'm not completely out of the loop if I ever decide to start watching again.

I like the Masoods and was really looking forward to them getting some screentime, I'm so annoyed that the Carters had to be involved. It'll probably be more about Shirley and the rapist than it will about Masood and Shabnam.

Roxy and Dean :eek: I know nothing's been proven but given that her sister is a victim of rape, shouldn't she run in the opposite direction to anyone accused of rape?

No one on the Square but Stacey believes Dean raped Linda

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tammyy2j

No one on the Square but Stacey believes Dean raped Linda

---

Yes, and that's part of the problem. At the moment most on the Square don't know, don't care or believe Linda is lying. It's all a long way from Dean "paying" for his horrible crime.

The news that Dean's sticking around the square for the foreseeable future, and the way he's been written recently, have reluctantly led me to the conclusion that Storyseeker1 was right that Dean's supposed to be in denial about the rape (we recently had a lengthy debate about this on another thread).

I stand by my assertion that the rape, the bullying and intimidation are the actions of someone without empathy or remorse, but it seems apparent the writers have changed their minds and that Dean's now supposed to be a nice guy who did a bad thing! :sick:

I'll never accept that or forgive him, no matter how much suffering they pile on him. Some of his supporters assert he's mentally ill and needs help but I won't accept that excuse either. He's troubled (but then so are most of the residents of Albert Square) but not to the extent that he's mentally ill and not capable of being responsible for his actions. He needs to go to prison not to a psychiatric hospital! :angry:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kim

I suppose the fact that his child has CF is supposed to be seen as a punishment (as he'll be going back through what he already did with his brother) but it doesn't wash with me.

---

Lots of people are being punished, including poor Jade herself, so it doesn't wash with me either. Also, if the writers are hoping his love for his daughter will erase the rape in the viewers' minds, they're going to be disappointed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tammyy2j

No one on the Square but Stacey believes Dean raped Linda

---

Sharon believes Linda and I think Jane does too. Masood called him a rapist but doesn't seem to care about it - certainly not enough to keep his granddaughter away from him.

This is one of the major problems of the writers trying whitewash the rape. Linda is still suffering because her reputation's been ruined. It must be awful to live with people whispering that you accused someone of rape just to hide your adultery. Dean's actions must become common knowledge to alleviate Linda's situation.

There's also the fact that Dean is, and always will be, a danger to women. :angry:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dazzle

The news that Dean's sticking around the square for the foreseeable future, and the way he's been written recently, have reluctantly led me to the conclusion that Storyseeker1 was right that Dean's supposed to be in denial about the rape (we recently had a lengthy debate about this on another thread).

I stand by my assertion that the rape, the bullying and intimidation are the actions of someone without empathy or remorse, but it seems apparent the writers have changed their minds and that Dean's now supposed to be a nice guy who did a bad thing! :sick:

I'll never accept that or forgive him, no matter how much suffering they pile on him. Some of his supporters assert he's mentally ill and needs help but I won't accept that excuse either. He's troubled (but then so are most of the residents of Albert Square) but not to the extent that he's mentally ill and not capable of being responsible for his actions. He needs to go to prison not to a psychiatric hospital! :angry:



Lots of people are being punished, including poor Jade herself, so it doesn't wash with me either. Also, if the writers are hoping his love for his daughter will erase the rape in the viewers' minds, they're going to be disappointed.



Sharon believes Linda and I think Jane does too. Masood called him a rapist but doesn't seem to care about it - certainly not enough to keep his granddaughter away from him.

This is one of the major problems of the writers trying whitewash the rape. Linda is still suffering because her reputation's been ruined. It must be awful to live with people whispering that you accused someone of rape just to hide your adultery. Dean's actions must become common knowledge to alleviate Linda's situation.

There's also the fact that Dean is, and always will be, a danger to women. :angry:

---

I think this storyline has been dealt with very
irresponsibly.
They should have decided what Deans condition/
mindset.was and written it consistently with
qualified advice.The actor should have been
advised how to play the role to reflect the type
of mental state/ personality intended.

The way things are progressing nothing is
making sense which is dangerous when
portraying serious personality disorders/
?illnesses that have led to a serious crime
- rape!!

It leads to misinformation and I although
I believe "Soaps" can inform the public
It needs to be done accurately not
trivialised for dramatic effect and sensationalism.

They need to do something to recify Lindas
situation regarding.how she is perceived by
neighbours etc. Its certainly no encouragement
to any woman to report rape.

And as point already made- whatever has
caused Deans actions - he is dangerous-
not likely to be an isolated incident and
others need to be protected .
Its certainly not appropriate or commensurate
punishment to give an innocent child an
illness as supposed retribution for a rapist.

I think both yourself and storyseeker put
forward good arguments for opinions.
But even a fully qualified expert can't
diagnose correctly when info given changes
constantly.

It was a good idea for a storyline that's
been ruined by inconsistent planning/
writing/ acting and more than a touch of
self-importance!!

Dupl

There is no way to redeem Dean, he is a rapist :angry:

Given all the bad publicity the BBC has received over the last couple of years, Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris etc., you'd think they might be a bit more sensitive to such issues instead of appearing to brush Dean's rape of Linda aside. Perhaps they haven't changed at all since the 70s and 80s.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by parkerman

Given all the bad publicity the BBC has received over the last couple of years, Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris etc., you'd think they might be a bit more sensitive to such issues instead of appearing to brush Dean's rape of Linda aside. Perhaps they haven't changed at all since the 70s and 80s.

---

Old Proverb ??
The fish rots from.the head down!!