Jake & Danny Moon AXED!!! - NOW CONFIRMED

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18-03-2005, 02:42
*JSW*

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

That's exactly why Joel/Jake has a big following :D
I am glad we can finally agree properly on something.

We both have strong opinions but as far as i'm concerned on this matter, great minds think alike! :D

One thing that I really noticed though was when they first arrived Danny appeared to be the popular brother. When Jake Maskall came out though, his supporters switched in their droves! Proves how something little makes all the difference.

Alisha, you talk of character development but there's been time and i've seen non. How would you develop the characters to build them into bigger stars in the Square?
18-03-2005, 02:43
Treacle

I do agree with *JSW* though JJ in the fact I cannot understand their following and can only assume it's based on good looks although where these good looks are I'll never know. Completely baffled. :p
18-03-2005, 02:45
Treacle

The characters have been there 3 months!!! The Slaters had provoked a reaction by their third month. I liked them.
18-03-2005, 02:45
Jade

Yea they both look a bit ropey to me but I'm not 13-14!! I'm guess thats why the younger audience want them to stay?
18-03-2005, 02:46
*JSW*

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

I do agree with *JSW* though JJ in the fact I cannot understand their following and can only assume it's based on good looks although where these good looks are I'll never know. Completely baffled. :p

I want to know whats so ggod looking about them too! Jake Maskall looks trampy alot of the time (harsh but true) Joel Beckett- are there any looks there. Just a plain face to me!

And we certainly know it can't be the acting!
18-03-2005, 02:46
Alisha

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

Yeah well you don't know whether you like someone or not until you get to know their characters but it's got to have something there originally where you actually think of the dynamic and what their characters are about or could be about. .

From first impressions I liked Danny and Jake and I was genuinley intrested in them but I suppose everyone's opinion on them differs regarding that aspect.
18-03-2005, 02:46
Treacle

Plus Jake looks well underfed :p
18-03-2005, 02:47
Jade

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

I want to know whats so ggod looking about them too! Jake Maskall looks trampy alot of the time (harsh but true) Joel Beckett- are there any looks there. Just a plain face to me!

And we certainly know it can't be the acting!

I think Jake looks like a drug addict most of the time
18-03-2005, 02:48
*JSW*

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Originally Posted by Alisha

From first impressions I liked Danny and Jake and I was genuinley intrested in them but I suppose everyone's opinion on them differs regarding that aspect.

I can see from a slight degree where your coming from but interested in what? What can you really say about the Moon Brothers?
18-03-2005, 02:49
Treacle

They are rubbish!!!
18-03-2005, 02:51
*JSW*

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

They are rubbish!!!

You've basically summed them in their entirity there!

And WQ is that really a Moderator-worthy comment :D
18-03-2005, 02:54
Treacle

I'm not bothered lol I don't like them and have a right to say so :D
I could debate this to the bitter end but the fact is I can't believe anybody thinks they have a direction to go in.
18-03-2005, 02:55
*JSW*

Well what you'll most likey find is its only the 12-21 year old girls/women who find they have a direction of any sort!
18-03-2005, 02:55
Alisha

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

I can see from a slight degree where your coming from but interested in what? What can you really say about the Moon Brothers?

I think if anything, I liked the rapport between Danny and Jake. Danny was a bit of a lose cannon and quite childlike. Jake however plays a fatherly role and I think some of the vulnerability between them is shown and how much they really do rely on each other. I wanted to see thier relationship develope more. I also think that Jake and Chrissie have a great chemistry.
18-03-2005, 02:57
Treacle

They were a cardboard copy of the Mitchell bros without the other non-dodgy side which was why the Mitchell bros were such an hit plus they just had connections and weren't all crime orientated or on the run. Johnny has potential. They don't :)
18-03-2005, 02:59
Alisha

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

We both have strong opinions but as far as i'm concerned on this matter, great minds think alike! :D

Alisha, you talk of character development but there's been time and i've seen non. How would you develop the characters to build them into bigger stars in the Square?

I have seen minor development between them but thats only because they have been on for less than 3 months.

I would personally like to see his relationship with Danny develop more and learn more about thier past instead of all this tosh with Johnny. :)
18-03-2005, 03:01
Treacle

Yes they have only been in it for 3 months but still nearly every episode in 3 months is enough to get the viewers interested and they haven't got mine.
18-03-2005, 03:03
*JSW*

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Originally Posted by Alisha

I think if anything, I liked the rapport between Danny and Jake. Danny was a bit of a lose cannon and quite childlike. Jake however plays a fatherly role and I think some of the vulnerability between them is shown and how much they really do rely on each other. I wanted to see thier relationship develope more. I also think that Jake and Chrissie have a great chemistry.

I'm sorry but IMO that doesn't warrant keeping 2 characters on a permenant basis! Chemistry can be built between other charcaters and we don't want a love story. A Shannis type story (to a degree) is not what EE needs. I for one do not want to see Cake (as a few members apptly named it!)
18-03-2005, 03:04
Alisha

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

Well what you'll most likey find is its only the 12-21 year old girls/women who find they have a direction of any sort!

I think thats a bit of an unfair assumption to make. My mum likes Danny (I prefer Jake myself not in the physcial sense)
18-03-2005, 03:04
Treacle

The way they act camp is hysterical though.
18-03-2005, 03:05
*JSW*

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Originally Posted by Alisha

I have seen minor development between them but thats only because they have been on for less than 3 months.

I would personally like to see his relationship with Danny develop more and learn more about thier past instead of all this tosh with Johnny. :)

As i've already said 40 episodes and no real time for proper character development!

Anyway in a year they'll be a new set of pin-ups for people to gaze googley eyed at!
18-03-2005, 03:07
Treacle

I'm sticking with *JSW* on this one their characters could NEVER have been a little more permanent. Those kind never are.
18-03-2005, 03:07
*JSW*

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Originally Posted by Alisha

I think thats a bit of an unfair assumption to make. My mum likes Danny (I prefer Jake myself not in the physcial sense)

Ok what do you like about Jake? You've said his looks are a no-no and he hasn't got a personality to speak of (unless you can tell me what it is) o why do you like him :confused:
18-03-2005, 03:09
Alisha

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

I'm sorry but IMO that doesn't warrant keeping 2 characters on a permenant basis! Chemistry can be built between other charcaters

I dont see a love story between them.

I said they have great chemistry but that doesn't mean I want them to settle down and have babies. I think they are good for each other right now and Jake is just what Chrissie needs. As for chemistry -I think you either gell on screen or you dont. Jim and Dot, Sharon and Dennis, Ian and Jane do. I dont see it with Sonia and Martin though and other previous couples who have lasted the distance.
18-03-2005, 03:09
Treacle

I think they are a borefest.
18-03-2005, 03:11
*JSW*

The campness shocks me aswell. Jake trying to fix Chrissie's tap :D
Danny trying to act in any shape or form :D

Also Alisha, where is your arguement based on? You can't keep saying all of these could off beens. Thats talking in a hypothetical sense and we won't even go there. You seem to have little basis to your arguement. Please do tell me why you think they should stay without saying "they could be" etc.

And WQ, I never even doubted you'd change sides, not for a moment! :D
18-03-2005, 03:13
Alisha

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

Ok what do you like about Jake? You've said his looks are a no-no and he hasn't got a personality to speak of (unless you can tell me what it is) o why do you like him :confused:

Well I'm not a Jake fan but I do like his character along with many other characters on the show.

Anyway, like I said in one of the above statements I like the fatherly role he's adopted with Danny as well as his chemistry with Chrissie. He is also quite a strong dominant male and that shows through his interaction with Danny.
18-03-2005, 03:13
Treacle

When it comes to these two I'm un-movable with my opinion.
18-03-2005, 03:14
Treacle

What time are you two off to bed? Just going to grab a coffee DO NOT leave me LOL I'm enjoying this discussion.
18-03-2005, 03:16
*JSW*

Well I see no-one budging and we're going in roundabouts now. So as much as I hate to say it

"We'll have to agree to disagree!"

That sounds so tacky :D
18-03-2005, 03:17
Treacle

I don't want to inflame nor encourage debate but this is enjoyable.
18-03-2005, 03:21
*JSW*

Well unless you want to slag the pair of them of them off to the rafters thats fine :D

Are you doing your usual night-shift on here WQ? :D Do you ever sleep? You seem to be constantly online!
18-03-2005, 03:21
Alisha

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

Also Alisha, where is your arguement based on? You can't keep saying all of these could off beens. Thats talking in a hypothetical sense and we won't even go there. You seem to have little basis to your arguement. Please do tell me why you think they should stay without saying "they could be" etc.

Hi,

In the hypothetical sense -I'm mostly refering to the gangster talk because we don't know if that has much validity or not.

As for the rest - my opinion isn't a valid one and neither is yours or anyone else posting on this forum as it's mearly our views on storylines and characters. Nothing is definate with characters so for me to say they will be loved if they stayed another year' is a flawed statement because we don't know if that will be the case.

The main point I'm expressing is that 3 months is not enough time to evolve a character. :)
18-03-2005, 03:23
Alisha

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Originally Posted by Walford Queen

I don't want to inflame nor encourage debate but this is enjoyable.

I would encourage debates (just as long as they are friendly). I love them :)
18-03-2005, 03:24
*JSW*

But if they feture in nearly every episode in the last 3 months then i'd say it is.
18-03-2005, 03:28
Treacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by *JSW*

Well unless you want to slag the pair of them of them off to the rafters thats fine :D

Are you doing your usual night-shift on here WQ? :D Do you ever sleep? You seem to be constantly online!

I am not always here. I just stay logged in rather than logging out of the board. I do tend to be here overnight though.
18-03-2005, 03:29
Treacle

The Slaters had an impact on me after 3 months and they weren't in 99.9 percent of the episodes although they were in a lot they worked though they had potential and direction something which lacks with the new Moon brothers.
18-03-2005, 03:34
Alisha

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Originally Posted by *JSW*

But if they feture in nearly every episode in the last 3 months then i'd say it is.

No I dont think it is really. Yes they have been in almost every episode for the past three months but its not them who have had most focus. 3 month is peanuts to make full judgement on a character. I still think of it as first impressions and class them as newcomers. So far the only other person that Jake has some sort of strong tie with is Johnny and even that hasn't been developed because all we have had is him doing some jobs for him. It also depends on the storylines aswell. If they carry on in the same position for the next 2 years- then yeah they will stay undeveloped and one-dimmentional. Kat for example, did nothing but shout at her family and sleep with different men for the first 6 months of the show. It was only when we learned that she was actually Zoe's mother that viewers got an insight into why she behaves in certain ways.

Anyway, It's been lovely chatting to you and Iv enjoyed this but I'm off to bed other wise I'l be late in the morning. :)
18-03-2005, 03:37
Treacle

Night x

Kat was different though because it was interesting.
18-03-2005, 09:08
Treacle

For anyone whose interested I've put their Revealed pictures up here: http://www.soapboards.co.uk/forums/s...0&page=1&pp=15

I know we have a lot of Jake & Danny fans.

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