Coronation Street - Current Episode Discussion - IV

I don't think Tracy did it deliberately, but that is not to say it was not her fault. It was her careless actions that caused the death of Kal.
The same as someone who falls asleep whilst smoking in bed does not deliberately set themselves on fire. But it is them and nobody else to blame.
Accidents are caused by somebody's carelessness, they don't happen by themselves, but are not intentional.
The perpetrators should still have the finger pointed at them though.

Didn't Tracy run out of Carla's because she heard a toilet being flushed, so she knew someone else was in there.
I wonder why Amy never saw the light when going from the toilet to the bedroom. Don't know the layout of Carla's flat though.

I also wondered why Amy did not respond to Carla calling out for her when the flat was on fire and Carla was crawling around ... surely she was not asleep through all that noise?

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Originally Posted by Snagglepus

Accidents are caused by somebody's carelessness, they don't happen by themselves, but are not intentional.
The perpetrators should still have the finger pointed at them though.

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Sorry I can't completely agree with you there.

There's a law (I think it's American - I've seen it on TV anyway) that states if a death occurs during the commission of a crime - even if it's accidental - it's always classed as murder. I think it'd be fair if something similar happened to Tracy in this case as she was in Carla's flat illegally and with ill intent. I'm not sure what crime she'd be charged with though. Possibly manslaughter?

Anyone can have an accident as we can't all be paying our full attention all of the time. Why blame someone is those circumstances? Obviously there's a fine line between accident and negligence, but if there was no deliberate lack of care how can someone be blamed for that? :searchme:

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Originally Posted by Perdita

I also wondered why Amy did not respond to Carla calling out for her when the flat was on fire and Carla was crawling around ... surely she was not asleep through all that noise?

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Well she slept through the alarm, the sound of the roaring fire and Leanne battering the door down too. Just a handful the many suspensions of reality we were supposed to swallow in those scenes. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-140297.gif

Tracy definitely did not set fire to the flat deliberately. She ran out the flat when she thought she might be discovered and left the candle on the side. Careless but not deliberate.

tracy pining the fire blame on carla is wrong as she knows it was her fault unintentional

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Originally Posted by parkerman

Tracy definitely did not set fire to the flat deliberately. She ran out the flat when she thought she might be discovered and left the candle on the side. Careless but not deliberate.

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Yes I agree with you. I just wonder would or could the police charge her with a crime if there was evidence she left the candle lit, since she was in Carla's flat illegally?

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

There's a law (I think it's American - I've seen it on TV anyway) that states if a death occurs during the commission of a crime - even if it's accidental - it's always classed as murder. I think it'd be fair if something similar happened to Tracy in this case as she was in Carla's flat illegally and with ill intent. I'm not sure what crime she'd be charged with though. Possibly manslaughter?

Anyone can have an accident as we can't all be paying our full attention all of the time. Why blame someone is those circumstances? Obviously there's a fine line between accident and negligence, but if there was no deliberate lack of care how can someone be blamed for that? :searchme:

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If they could prove the fire was caused by Tracy's candle then she could be charged with murder even though she may not have set out to kill them she was reckless by her actions in leving the lighted candle knowing that the cosequences of her actions may have caused a fire. Best practice would be to charge her with murder and possibly reduce it to manslaughter at trial. It is not possible after someone has been charged with manslaughter to upgrade the charge to murder. That is why people are charged wit the more serious offence first.

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Originally Posted by Dazzle

Well she slept through the alarm, the sound of the roaring fire and Leanne battering the door down too. Just a handful the many suspensions of reality we were supposed to swallow in those scenes. http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smile...sed-140297.gif

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even though she had used the loo minutes beforehand!!

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