why would billy have contact. freddie isnt his kid?Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
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why would billy have contact. freddie isnt his kid?Quote:
Originally Posted by tammyy2j
I thought it was good the way little mo stood up to phil.Why should Ben get away with it.And I just wanted to slap peggy
peggy is really evil to mo, shes not done anything wrong. I really hate Ben!!!. I cant stand the character.
When Little Mo and Billy split up Billy still wanted to see Freddie since he had bonded with him and now he never mentions or sees Freddie. I know he isn't Billy's child but afterall Billy was his step dad at the beginning. I thought Billy especially after growing up in care would have stayed in contact with Freddie.Quote:
Originally Posted by CornishBabe
well Im really liking Denise she seems to be a great addition to the show, Deano does make me laugh he's such an idiot I cant help but laugh. Way to go Mo standing up to Phil.
Deanos just a plonker, i like Kevin and Carly though. Diane Parish is really good in it. Shes agreat addition i agree.
A good episode last night, I am glad Little Mo stuck up to Phil, good on her!! She definetly proved to him that she is not a pushover, i really want Little Mo and Dr. Oliver to get together too. :)
I wish Peggy knew the truth about what happened with Freddie, i am tired of her shouting her mouth off to Little Mo calling her a "child beater" in last night's episode, i just wish she knew Ben was responsible then Peggy would definetly keep her mouth shut!
The Deano/Foxes stuff was ok, what was with Sonia hiding the film though?? :confused:
Billy made a lot of comments, regarding the film as a girlie thing, and that it is nice that Sonia can watch it with Naomi. Them being the same gender would make it more easy as they would share interests. Sonia was really annoyed when Billy emphasized her being Gay. That is what I make of the situation. She is still not fully comfortable at her being Gay or Bisexual.:searchme:Quote:
Originally Posted by daveywavey
I saw it more as she wanted to go out rather than stay in, so pretended they didn't have a film to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchgirl
Before he got together with Honey, Billy seemed to genuinely care for Freddie, Little Mo is more than reasonable with it so Billy has contact. It was also evident that deep down, Mo still wanted Billy as a part of her life, so access would be the perfect opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by CornishBabe
Lord, that last scene was painful to watch. Poor Tom Ellis...outacted by a stuffed monkey.
took the words write out of my mouth, the best bit was Stacey shouting through the door. Thought the Billy and Honey scenes were great, Great choice of song :thumbsup:
Ha ha. I actually thought it was quite sweet. It may not have been the best performance, but if it was just left at that. I think it would have been an o.k ending. But us soap addicts know what's coming up so it spoils it a bit!Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackKat
Strange conversation between Carly and Sonia. Carly's getting close to Martin, you'd think they wouldn't see eye to eye, but clearly they get on alright. Probably leading up to next week.
Sweet moments between Billy and Honey. I found the stuff about her picking a song quite funny. You had to laugh, when she said her short list was made up of 27 songs. And the final choice of song, was a weird one. They make a good couple.
Nothing more to say really. Oh I forgot Grant. Glad he's back. Can't believe that was an after thought.
It was a bit inapporpriate of Stacey to shout through the door, wasn't it?! I'm sure Little Mo would start shouting if something upsetting was going on. They were trying to have a private conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by cornetgal
Well after everything Stacey has had to grow up hearing of her cousins experiencing, you can't blame the poor kid for looking out for Mo, especially after the childhood she has had, and what happened between Zoe and Dennis, Kat and Alfie and Mo and Billy.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
Just one more episode left of lil mo. :(
Yeah, you could see she was just trying to look out for her. I suppose it's quite understandable. But I do think sometimes people should back off a little bit. There is such a thing as privacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim131
But I am a fan of Stacey, it's just her way isn't it?!
:wall: Boring, boring, boring! Yawn, that was an awful episode. It nearly brought tears to my eyes, for all the wrong reasons. Please get your act together EE. Kacey Ainsworth has done so much better, there is nothing left for her to do. And the Doctor very disappointing indeed! I had high hopes for him!
Well they both disappear in a matter of hours so they won't annoy you any more. :)
I won't be watching tonight but I'm sad that Kacey's leaving. She was a great character for her first few years, with Trevor and then with Billy. She was never the same though after her character destruction in the Berridge days, what with Graham the rapist and then Molfie. :sick:
Couldn't care less about the Doc though. Bring back Dr Legg. :thumbsup:
Stupid scriptwriters. Why do they do it?!
I think Little Mo should have left with Oliver, but at least they left it open for them to get together, at a later date. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they get married at some point in the future.
How obvious was that Martin/Carly thing?! I knew it was going to happen soon, but when I heard Sonia talk about her and Martin going to allotments together before, I knew it. It was just stupid!
I like Martin and Carly as a couple. He should be with her. Sonia had her chance, there's no point trying to rehash old ground now. She's still with Naomi for christ sake. You could understand if they'd broken up, but her behaviour is not fair to anybody. I'm starting to feel sorry for Naomi.
It seems like Carla's going to be good.
Not sure what I'm supposed to think of that episode to be honest. All rather bizarre.
So, I'll mention the little things. Like Stacey's, "Because you wanted them more than they wanted you." Love her...but she really needs to work on her tact.
As does Sonia on her post-split conversations. The best places they used to have sex...not really recommended.
Little Mo was right to go on her own. She does need to stand on her own two feet and not rely on others for her happiness. Only then will she be able to have a successful relationship with Oliver.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemo
The Martin/Carly thing was too obvious, as is the fact that he suddenly seems to have recovered from Sonia overnight. I don't like Carly, she drives me mad, but perhaps they will be a good couple because if he can move on within a couple of months, his feelings for Sonia were never genuine. It takes much, much longer than that.
I will never feel sorry for Naomi. You mess in someone's marriage and that is the risk you take. She deserves to get hurt. Sonia is so mixed up and confused which all stems from her past and the fact that she has never faced up to anything. I can see her life spiralling out of control, but it is already. Martin caused most of the mess in her life but she helped and supported him when his life hit rock bottom. Unfortunately, the Fowlers aren't as forgiving.
I like Carly, she is down to earth and really seems to go with Martin, that stupid marriage with a passionate Greek is to much odf for her. Little Mo should stand on her own two feet. Maybe she can hook up with Doc in the future.
So Sonia's suddenly allowed to run off with Naomi...but Martin isn't allowed to move on?!? Sonia is the one messing people about, and maybe she does have reasons for her behaviour, but it doesn't change the behaviour itself. She was married to Martin, she went off with Naomi, made Naomi believe Sonia loved her, and now she's backtracking and acting like she wants Martin back.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah21
I think Martin's being as supportive as he can be, and as anyone can expect him to be. He's letting her see Rebecca, when actually he has no obligation to do so. Why should he have to tiptoe around the person who cheated on him? Why should he be helpful and supportive about her decision to leave him? It was her decision to make, Naomi didn't hold a gun to her head, and it's Sonia who has to deal with the consequences because she had an major part in making the situation. What about all the times Martin tried talking to her and she told him to get lost? When he tried telling her about Margaret's phone call and she said he was dead to her? Sonia is in no way the innocent in this, and I'm not saying Martin and Naomi are, but what they've done in the past, or what they're doing now, doesn't excuse her.
Yopu are so right, Martin has been very graceful towards Sonia, she is a manipulative, selfish cow. I used to like her very much.
Martin is trying to move on, but he still loves Sonia, that much is obvious. I think if Sonia went and asked him to take her back, he would still give her another chance. Carly is a nice pretty woman, but she's not his wife, and he doesn't have a child with her. I think he needs a bit of fun in his life right now but who knows what will happen in the future.
No, it doesn't excuse her. Of course it doesn't. What I'm saying is Sonia is in deep crisis at the moment largely because of the way Martin messed up her life in the past. She needs help and when Martin needed the help, it was Sonia who helped him get his life back on track. When everyone turned against Martin for killing Jamie, it was Sonia who forgave him and bought fruit from his stall when no one else would. When Pauline came to see Sonia about Jamie's death, it was Sonia who said that she didn't blame Martin and smoothed the way for him. When he came out of prison and nobody had any time for him, he blackmailed Kareena and grew pot and allowed Derek to take the blame, it was Sonia who helped him find stability. If it wasn't for her, Martin would have ended up back in prison, outcast by the square.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackKat
Sonia is a totally confused, mixed up girl who was vulnerable when Naomi decided she was going to break up this couple. And make no mistake about it, Naomi came to the square to do exactly that. She constantly put Martin down and said how he wasn't good enough for Sonia who at the time, stood up to Naomi and told her he was her husband and she had no right to talk about him like that. Anybody who interferes in a marriage deserves to get hurt and badly, so I've absolutely no sympathy for her at all.
As regards Rebecca, Martin had no right to go behind Sonia's back and ask for sole custody. He knows how much that child means to his wife and it is Sonia who has suffered the feelings of loss and regret over the last 5 years, not Martin. He is using Rebecca to make Sonia suffer for leaving him. Yes, he has every right to move on, BUT, if he is able to so quickly, then he never had genuine feelings for his wife anyway. I would like to see him make a go of it with Carly, she can cope with his mother from hell. I would like to see Sonia have her break down, sort herself out, go for custody of Rebecca and win and find someone who does love her and who hasn't caused her all this heartache.
Well OK I agree with you on this part. I used to like her for that, wasn't sure why or how she could forgive him for Jamie's death. But she did because she wanted to. But she welcomed Naomi with open arms. Martin owes a lot to Sonia, but he is under the influence of his mother. Not even his brother and sister could stand up to her and left on many occasion, so why could he go against her? Sonia has the same rights as Martin regarding Rebbecca, and maybe she is cracking up but she needs to get her act together.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah21
But you can't use things like that as bargaining chips. You can't say "Sonia forgave him for that, he has to forgive her for this." Regardless of her reasons Sonia cheated on him and left him. How can Martin support her in that? What do you expect him to do? Everytime anyone has questioned Sonia's decision she's told them to go to hell. Martin isn't a mind reader. If she is just messed up and doesn't really want to be with Naomi -- how is he supposed to know that? How is he supposed to support her and help her sort her life out when she's giving out every impression that she's fine, and that it's everyone else who has the problem? The only person she's expressed any regrets to is Carly...and what can she do? It isn't just that Sonia isn't asking for help, it's that when people are offering she's throwing it back in their face.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah21
I thought Friday's episode was ok, would like to see Martin and Carly as a couple but I don't think he'll get into a serious relationship just yet because of Rebecca. Until then she had bought out the responsible and rational side in Martin. I would have preferred it if Sonia caught him in a threesome with two men though, that way she would be getting more than she gave.
I thought the stuff with Little Mo was sweet. I don't think she'll stay without Oliver for too long though, as soon as she proves to herself that she can support her and her son unaided.
I missed friday's episode but i can't believe that Little Mo left without Oliver. :eek: My mum told me the outcome and i was really surprised......Little Mo and Oliver were meant to be but maybe Little Mo did make the right decision. :)
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Originally Posted by daveywavey
Well Little Mo has never seemed to know what's good for her very often in the past has she.
Naomi's backbone?!? Where'd that spring from?
Carla's not all that much of a big wow. Peggy's very annoying lately -- Phil and Grant are both past 40 they can take care of themselves woman. :rolleyes: ...Actually, scrap that, they can't.
Jane's hair annoys me. Not so much the hair itself, it looks very nice, but the way it always, always falls in front of her face when Grant walks in, just so she can flip it out the way in a way I think is supposed to be sexy but really, really isn't. Grant/Jane sucks. Maybe if we saw this amazing connection build up in between the chemistry-less fumblings, but darn it, we didn't, so I don't buy it. :thumbsdow
Well any good mother thinks that her boy(s) cannot take care of themselves, even when they are married, so she no exception!:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackKat
Well Naomi has the patience of an ant, but hey Martin has found a new girl, so where is Sonia gonna go? Ah oh yes she can run to grandad.
Naomi was so selfish when she asked Sonia "who do you care about most in the world?" Her answer would obviously be Rebecca because she is her own flesh and blood but Naomi had to sulk about it and resorted to telling Sonia to leave :rolleyes:
Martin and Carly seem quite nice together though, and Carla is a great addition, hope she stays with EE permanently. :)
I messed up my evening's plans, so watched EE tonight. Blimey, talk about fingernails down the backboard, it was painful stuff.
Where do I start - Sonomi - already discussed. :thumbsdow
Grant and Carla - zzzz No chemistry. Carla reminds me of that woman from Eldorado who kept shouting 'Maaarrrccooosss'. :thumbsdow
Billy and Honey's stag do. :thumbsdow :sick:
Bert and Joe's scheming. :thumbsdow
The Wicks. :thumbsdow
Nothing I saw made me smile, except for Naomi slagging off 'Saint' Son at the end. Good girl. :thumbsup:
Apart from that, very dull. Very disappointing.
What's with Pauline's tan lately? In the scenes in the kitchen she was even surpassing Sharon's orangeness. :eek:
That's happened several times over the years. Suddenly Pauline gets a tan from nowhere. Wendy Richard obviously enjoys her hols too much. :o
Married life must have sent her a bit pale..... No wonder, what with Bert being under the same roof as her aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richie_lecturer