I've just watched the ee revealed on bbc3/choice (what ever it's called now!) Totally agree with why they did it, if you've not seen it then go to the bbc i-player and watch it
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I've just watched the ee revealed on bbc3/choice (what ever it's called now!) Totally agree with why they did it, if you've not seen it then go to the bbc i-player and watch it
EastEnders executive producer Diederick Santer has responded to audience reaction following last night's episode of the BBC soap.
The hour special - which featured Peggy (Barbara Windsor) and Archie's (Larry Lamb) wedding as well as the death of Ronnie Mitchell's (Samantha Janus) secret daughter Danielle (Lauren Crace) - was seen by an average of 10.6m and caused an abnormal power surge on at the National Grid.
However, the episode has sparked mixed feelings among some of the viewing audience, with many members of the DS forums expressing their dismay at the plot's ending. The BBC has also confirmed that it has received a number of representations regarding the storyline.
Santer this afternoon said: "Last night's EastEnders contained all the elements of a classic soap episode – a wedding, high drama and tragedy.
"We acknowledge that we didn't deliver the happy ending that many of the audience may have been hoping for, and that for some people this was upsetting. We hope viewers understand that our aim is to deliver the best drama. That doesn't always lead to a happy ending.
He added: "EastEnders - like all good drama - contains a balance of storylines, both happy and sad. We’re proud of the episode, the storyline which built up to it and the way the audience have engaged with it."
thats what i got in reply to my complaintQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
i always thought that the writers were killing danielle off cos then the storyline had gone full circle - ronnie thinks daughter is dead, daughter turns up, daughter dies. although i didnt want danielle to die straight away as i thought it would be good to see her bond with ronnie and them to have some time together and then they could kill her off. however after watching thursdays and fridays epis and the ee revealed i now think it was best to kill her off now rather than kill her in a few months time or not at all. if they didnt kill her at all it would all get very boring very quickly, they would bond and nothing else could really be done. if they killed her off in a few months we would get the bonding which everyone wanted to see and it would be nice, but i dont think danielles death would then have as much effect as it will have killing her off at the wedding. killing her off just minutes after ronnie realises shes her daughter makes it more devastating for ronnie as she never had chance to bond with her daughter, it also makes the fall out with archie worse for the rest of the family as its his fault that ronnie never got to know who danielle was, if she was killed in a few months time i dont think everyone would hate archie as much as they do now. at the end of the day, danielle was brought in as a plot device rather than a proper character and so it makes sense to use her to move ronnies character in a different direction rather than the storyline moving both ronnie and danielles characters
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Originally Posted by SiobhanBut now she has to live with a) Danielle dying in her arms and b) the knowledge she helped abort her grandchild... poor woman.. Her dad has a lot to answer for, there is protecting your kids and then there is completely destroying themQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
i think it will effect her more now than her daughters "death" before. before she was devastated cos she never got to see her daughter and that her dad hadnt told her, though then she moved on cos she had closure rather than always trying to find her daughter. now though, not only does she have to live with the fact she could have got to know her daughter sooner as she was living near her, she aborted her grandchild and she was quite horrible to her on occassions, she also knows for certain her daughter is dead and she witnessed it happening, not to mention the fact that her dad betrayed her more than she even thought possible. i think this will effect her harder and hopefully for longer than previously. i think she will also blame herself a lot for what happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
You might be right, but do you really want to see a miserable Ronnie for the rest of the year? :(
Thousands of EastEnders fans have signed an online petition to show their unhappiness with the death of Danielle Jones (Lauren Crace).
Danielle was killed off by writers when the character was run over by Janine Butcher last week.
Fan Vicky Cole set up an online petition addressed to executive producer Diederick Santer to protest the storyline.
Cole said: "We'd like to express our disappointment that you have written out Danielle Jones (played by the talented Lauren Crace).
"We, the fans of the show, believe it is a mistake to write out the most pivotal character in possibly the best storyline EastEnders has had."
She added: "Although we realise it may not be possible to change the storyline and bring Lauren back, we hope that you will ensure her character's exit leaves a door open for her return."
Over 6,200 people have signed the letter posted at PetitionOnline.
Santer has said that the soap's producers were "proud" of the episode and the storyline that preceded it.
She died, how can a door be left open for her character to return? :confused: FFS, it is a soap story, yes, would have preferred for mum and daughter to get to know each other and live happily ever after, but it was not meant to be. Get over it.
Is it too late to start a petition to bring back Liam Connor? :hmm:
these petitions are stupid. how can you bring back a character if theyre dead?! :rolleyes: some people need to get a life, shes gone, get over it
i would prefer that than seeing her being all happy with danielle. we know this is what defines her character and so i think it needs to go deeper this time before she changesQuote:
Originally Posted by Perdita
Dose any one know if Ronnie has talked to Joel Danielle birth father :hmm:
dunno, i doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Curly19
I have not heard his name being mentioned at all in all of this. :nono:
what happened to him anyway?
She went to find him at that School Reunion with Christian didn't she? But he didn't turn up, don't think we've heard anything about him since.
Ronnie looked him up a bit before Christmas, and a little girl answered the door( Ronnie told her she had the wrong house , then she decided to take off without speaking to Joel. So my guess is that Ronnie has not had any contact with him since Danielle was born??
That is all I can remember about Joel .Guess he is a family man now,, moved on with his life.:searchme:
Oh yeah, I remember that part now too.
yeh and she sent him that letter (im guessing saying their daughter was dead, i cant really remember?) and archie burnt the one he sent back
EastEnders executive Diederick Santer has explained that Danielle Jones's tragic death last week became an inevitable storyline move.
Hundreds of fans were outraged following the demise of Danielle (Lauren Crace) only minutes after revealing to a devastated Ronnie (Samantha Janus) that she was her daughter.
Speaking of the storyline twist, Santer told Inside Soap: "When we were devising the character, we knew this was one of the possible endings. And as we worked through the story, it became inevitable.
"We loved Danielle and Ronnie together, but the magic is that they're forever out of reach for one another. If Danielle had left without Ronnie finding out who she was, it would have been irritating for the audience. The only way for the character to be permanently gone was to kill her."
He continued: "Every time we imagined a scenario where there was an upbeat resolution, the magic was lost and it all became ordinary. Basically, it diminished both characters - Ronnie had been defined by the loss of her daughter when she was young. This was the only outcome which gave me goosebumps, too - and in the end, you have to listen to your instinct."
The EastEnders chief went on to reveal that if time had allowed, he would have let the story run to nearly a year.
"I'd have liked to have kept the storyline going for longer this year, as it only played out for nine months on screen - a blink of an eye in the EastEnders timescale," he said.
"I'd like to have given it a year or more, as we did with the Max and Stacey affair. But other happenings, such as weddings, meant we had to pull it all forward."
I hope that his statement will now stop people from starting petitions to bring her back :rolleyes:
Perdita,, I agree with what the guy said, but if I read this right there were 41 thousand complaints logged ????????:searchme: :rolleyes: :confused: Not sure that they(EE) could pull a DALLAS storyline..what they did was they killed off a character but brought him back because fans went bonkers ??? they brought him back the next season after his wife wakes up from having a nightmare about his death, and finds him butt naked in the shower :lol: (HEY BRY remember this scene ???)
I still think the writers could have done just a bit better with the story.. just a bit ,, thats not asking for much is it :rotfl:
Really I do not want Danielle back , the story has run its course ( well almost .. we have the funeral to get thru ):rolleyes:
apparently it was always really the intention to have her die at some point once the storyline had got going, and so even if they hadnt killed her straight away she would have died at some point. yeh ok it was annoying that it was just as ronnie found out but all these people moaning about it would have complained if it had happened in a few months time as well. no storyline is ever going to please everyone, and i dont understand the point in a petition, you cant (realistically) bring someone back once theyve been killed off!
just found out today that Lauren Crace used to go to the same college as me! small world eh!? :eek:
EE proved they are not capable of doing a storyline of bringing someone back from the dead. They tried with DEN Watts and failed miserably. What a load of pooh that was and so totally unrealistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by JustJodi
I don't want her back from the dead... Her death was suppose to be ironic.. Ronnie thinks daughter is dead, finds she is not only to have her die the same day... Ironic!! Besides, Danielle was really boring
Whilst there were allegedly 41,000 complaints about Danielle's death, a lot of posters are also agreeing that it was a pity she was killed off, but this is a soap storyline, not real life and the scriptwriters can now concentrate on making Ronnie have a mental breakdown. I am just wondering whether there would have been complaints if Danielle had not been killed and viewers found the mother/daughter relationship boring. Not 41,000 I dare say, but you can't please all the people all the time. Bringing the character back to life would just be ridiculous, it worked to some extent in Dallas because it was the first time this happened in a soap, but it has now been done so many times and in EE as well, there probably would have been that many complaints about that storyline too then and quite rightly so.
is anyone else not bored of this????
it was a storyline in a soap!!! fair enough it wasnt the happy ending many wanted but it did make for high drama, and continues so. i totally understand why danielle had to die- happy people in soap's are boring
I agree with all this RachelQuote:
Originally Posted by Bad Wolf
wow it is a small world, believe me I know, you should joined me and kaths talk in the shoutbox the other night, it was very werid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan
I know what you mean I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bad Wolf
People need to get over it
41000 complaints about a storyline in a third rate soap just shows how little some folk have to do. I suppose they were the same twits who complained when Dennis Woodman was bumped off bringing an end to all the Shannis nonsense:wall:
sad to see her go but i guess eastenders had no choice in the end
Wait until the complaints they get when it's revealed that Archie is Phil's dad and Phil's the daddy of Heather's baby.
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Originally Posted by Chloe O'brien
all will be revealed during christmas dinner :lol: :lol: :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chloe O'brien