Jim...a murderer??!!!
to be perfectly honest....what else would they do with Joe if they didn't kill him off?? Now Pauline's dead and buried, he has no purpose!
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Jim...a murderer??!!!
to be perfectly honest....what else would they do with Joe if they didn't kill him off?? Now Pauline's dead and buried, he has no purpose!
eastenders is soon to be catching up with the high death rates with holby. and jim a muderer!!!
Who said EE was going to have a good year this year?! :rotfl: :p
Here we go again..
What a copy from Emmerdale. Anyway, what would Jim and Joe be doing upstairs, 'cause he wouldn't die if it was from the living room. Not a very good way to hint at suicide either; they'd overdose or chuck themselves from a rooftop.
I think id send a warning to the residents. Quick find somewhere else to live. Im surprised they dont just kill off every one and do a brookside.
I know it's hard to picture jim as a murderer after recent years but he has had a history of being nasty. When he came in wasn't he an old racist? Plus it's been hinted at through his relationship with his son that he used to quite cruel. That's not to say I think he did it...I just don't think it's hugely far fetched.
Very true babyblue, i think people are just saying the way they are doing this storyline is just a copy of Emmerdale.
I think Joe did it, he wants us to believe he was at his daughters, he may have gone, AFTER, he whacked the miserable old Moo over the head, and slipped out the back door and back to his daughters ??? :hmm:
I think Sonia will finally be cleared, but the damage will have already been done !!! Too late for her and Martin to reconcile over all of this, this is just my 2 euro cents worth :searchme:
What copy from Emmerdale. They filmed this ages ago. Ray Brookes left in November, long before Emmerdale was screened. It is pure coincidence.
only problem I have with this comment , is Pauline has NOT been buried yet, they had to yank her back out of the crematorium for a PM, then had a PRAYER/MEMORIAL service for her this past Friday( no funeral ), so she ain't buried yet :rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by neroc
I do not think any of the buildings will be high enough to kill Joe..even if he did slip and fall out the window , the fall would not have killed him..
I still think that Joe killed Pauline, remember he is a smooth EX-CON , he fooled every one in Walford about his past,, so how do we not know he is not capable of murder..??
Jim a KILLER,, thats a joke, as he says about Dot,, he wouldn't hurt a fly...:ninja:
If EE keeps this up , Walford is gonna be a ghost town ,,:rolleyes:
Im still unsure but I dont think it will have anything to do with sonia, its way too obvious.
Rock the Square? It couldn't even Rock The Casbah!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_2k7It's also set to 'ROCK THE SQUARE' don't forget alan :DQuote:
Originally Posted by alan45
Sounds on paper to be another ridiculous 'sensationalist' twist in the utter farce that has followed Pauline's death. :thumbsdow
The 'who killed Pauline Fowler?' storyline is set to take a new twist in the coming weeks.
It was revealed some time ago that Ray Brooks, who plays the battleaxe's now widowed husband Joe Macer, would be written out of the show.
But it seems he won't simply be disappearing into the sunset.
Instead, Joe will be killed off in dramatic fashion following an argument with Jim Branning.
Like Emmerdale's Tom King, he will fall through a window to his death.
But has Joe been pushed, or did he jump after becoming one of the chief suspects in Pauline's mysterious demise?
An EastEnders insider told The Sun: "The whodunnit is set to carry on. Sonia is the main suspect but then Joe dies, throwing confusion into the mix."
The plot will also thicken next week when missing Sonia returns to Albert Square - only to be driven away in a police car.
Ray Brooks has had a long and successful career, starring most notably in seminal Sixties drama Cathy Come Home, Big Deal, Growing Pains and Two Thousand Acres of Sky, as well as voicing several children's shows.
He took the role in EastEnders as a tribute to his daughter Emma, who died of cancer. It was her favourite programme.
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Originally Posted by babyblue
If someone is racist, I think they'd stay that way, so he wouldn't be mates with Patrick, or have been his best man. I think if Joe did it, it would have been better to come back, 'cause he didn't leave that long before she died, so, for all we know, he could of been planning it. Being her husband, he's a key part of it, so he's showing himself as not guilty, and if he didn't return, it would just be a copy of Terry from Emmerdale, so the whole thing would just be too much of an obvious copy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tannie
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Originally Posted by JustJodionly problem I have with this comment , is Pauline has NOT been buried yet, they had to yank her back out of the crematorium for a PM, then had a PRAYER/MEMORIAL service for her this past Friday( no funeral ), so she ain't buried yet :rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by neroc
She isn't being buried at all, and it's not as if he'd have had much point at the memorial service, 'cause it wasn't the funeral and Pauline didn't actually love him, so I guess it would save EE some money; there's no point having him on a long term contract, after all. Pauline is being cremated, I guess as a way to build the suspense over whether the police would actually stop the funeral, because if it was burial, they could come back and dig her up later.
In real life yeah :P but characters in soaps tend to mellow...well I guess in real life they do SOMETIMES. I feel like I'm being picky here...I'm not really I'm procrastinating :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Kim
You can get treatment for that now you know...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by babyblue
Copy cat storyline. No doubt there will be a whodunnit on the BBC site just like on the ITV one. O.K sounds good in theory but I can't see Easties carrying it off as well as Emmerdale.
It would of been better if Joe had died of a head injury following the wallop over the head Pauline gave him with the plate, which is the route I thought they would go down.
can we stop with the whole copycat thing, all soaps copy each other, its annoying but its hardly like Eastenders was the first to do so.
Its not the copying of another soap but such an improbable storyline that gets to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Allen
How do we know EE copied Emmerdale? For all we know it could have been the other way round.. it all depends on when the storylines were thought up.
exaclty chris, it just so happens Edale showed Tom King first. You never know when Ray decided to anounce he was leaving, it could have been a long time before for all we now. Its also a bit different as its linking with another murder and theres actually a reason. we cant really see the simularitys until the episode is aired as well.
Dot finds out about Joe's deceit.
The window gets broken onSpoiler:
Thats very true, they are not always the same but pretty much very simillar and I suppose we cant blame them afterall their is only so many storylines that you can do and not go overbaord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Allen
I know I'm in the minority but I'm quite glad this has happened and to answer someone's qiuestion if Joe did not return for Puline's funeral it would look suspicious, as soner or later Martin would contact him at his daughters with the news and if he still stayed away people would wonder. No I don;t think Jm is a killer but here's some food for thought. phil's over insistence that Sonia's innocent and the way he helped get her away looks suspicious.
I read in soaplife that the shock in Pauline's will for Martin is that the house is left to him, but only if he adheres to certain conditions. She's made sure Ian will do exactly that, so he lives at the house, does the place up, but he can't handle her ashes being on the mantlepiece, so he decides to leave Walford.
The fruit bowl got broken when Pauline fell onto the table after Sonia slapped her. She was picking up the glass and Sonia tried to help when Martin called her mobile.
On GMTV this morning and in The Mirror they showed pictures of Joe trying to strangle Dot after she realises it was him that killed Pauline!!!
NO WAY :eek::eek::eek: OMG.. how could he let Sonia get done for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Red08
NO WAY :eek::eek::eek: OMG.. how could he let Sonia get done for it[/QUOTE]
I know!!! Can't believe it - didn't think it would take such a twist - now the whole storyline with him being dead with it either suicide or Jim killing him! He must find him trying to strangle Dot. Can't wait for this to all come out!
so did they say how he killed her? Can't believe he would let it go this far.. Poor Sonia.. and her and Martin are trully finished. she won't even get to see Rebecca. If Joe dies, then how will dot and jim prove he did it?? the police won't believe them, they will say they are doing it to protect Sonia
Oh my god! :eek: That's really shocking..i suspected Joe for some time, but i never thought he would strangle Dot! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Red08
He should have owned up to Pauline's death ages ago instead of letting the whole thing spiral out of control with Sonia getting arrested etc.
Oh dear me.........I guessed Joe had something to do with it some time back, guess these spoilers confirmed what I suspected... but I hope he tells Dot how he did it too !!!!!!!!!!! Then at least us VIEWERS will be in the KNOW..
Does any one know when this is to occur ???
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He hit her over the head with a frying pan apparently.
Well it makes a change from an iron or a glass ashtray:)Quote:
Originally Posted by babyblue
Was he returning the favour after her plate smashing on his head do you think? What goes around, comes around as they say?! lol
EXCLUSIVE: THE KILLER OF ALBERT SQUARE
HE GOT RID OF PAULINE.. NOW HE'S AFTER DOT
By Nicola Methven, Tv Editor
THIS is the shocking moment when Joe Macer tries to throttle poor old Dot Branning after she discovers that he killed Pauline Fowler.
Dot (June Brown) has puzzled over Pauline's end since she dropped down dead on Christmas Day.
Daughter-in-law Sonia Fowler's in the frame because she slapped Pauline before she died.
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But Dot's not convinced and confronts Pauline's husband Joe (Ray Brooks) who confesses he smashed her over the head with a frying pan after they rowed. Viewers are set for a cracking episode tomorrow as Dot's husband Jim (John Bardon) turns up in the nick of time.
A show insider said: "Dot is suspicious about Joe's return and questions him as he rummages through drawers at the burnt-out house.
"She begins to realise that Joe came back there on Christmas Day and tries to make sense of what happened. He admits that he did indeed return and hit Pauline hard on the head.
"As he makes the astonishing confession, Joe becomes angry and Dot is scared but she eventually gets the full truth from him - that he's a killer. Joe insists that she keeps quiet and she realises he intends to let Sonia take the rap."
Dot frantically reaches for the phone to call the police but Joe lunges at her. Luckily Jim spots her in the window as he walks across the Square. He rushes over and goes for Joe.
The Albert Square killer ducks and plunges through the window on to a market stall below.
FFS, how totally ridiculous. As if Jim could see them, as they'd be on the ground floor, and there's a wall and fence in the way. Also how does Mr Benn fall onto the market? That's well away from the Fowler house. He'd have to fly 70 metres out of the window. I see they chose the Arfur battering method again, how original. :thumbsdow :rolleyes:
My boycott is about to resume in a few days....
i read on itv teletext today that Joe did kill pauline he confesses to dot that he hit pauline over the head with a frying pan